Media trying to create resentment against homeless heading to Hawaii escaping cold

[Adi Shankara]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2511153/posts

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-07-25-homeless-in-hawaii_N.htm

Look at the fucking titles of these articles. it rages me so goddamn much. If the fact that a homeless man gets 3 good meals a day and free health care at a small cost to taxpayers makes the populace rage so much, then I truly live in a nation of barbaric people.

Homeless people need compassion; many of them are not "lazy", but rather have mental issues, come from broken families where they were raised to be worthless, or have just given up on life. they need love from society, not hatred.

There are 25,000 squatters in Hawaii in the form of US military, and they're welcomed with open arms (by the government, at least). but get a homeless person going to Hawaii to escape freezing weather in their home state? he must be a damned evil person!

But I guess I missed the memo where it says only rich people are entitled to warm weather, beautiful surroundings and low crime. Fuck this motherfucking country.

What the fuck is wrong with this country? seriously? or is it like this in Europe as well? (I heard in France, they hate the homeless for example as much as Americans do)

[Who?]

I guess the rich get upset when the homeless are all over their private beaches. :rolleyes:

Honestly I would expect this reaction from most Americans. There is a common consensus in America that those without homes were all given the chance to be successful, they were just too lazy to take it. They take no time to understand the situations that forced these people into the streets.

I suppose we can blame the uproar on good ol' fashioned American ignorance.

[Adi Shankara]

Honestly I would expect this reaction from most Americans. There is a common consensus in America that those without homes were all given the chance to be successful they were just too lazy to take it. They take no time to understand the situations that forced these people into the streets.



The American dream is the opium of the American people...

It creates a false sense of security, that one can "become just like them someday", as they work two jobs struggling to pay the rent on their tiny apartment.

Yet most everyone here buys that here, they didn't listen to Jimmy Carter when he spoke out against the American dream, as we're supposed to believe that, on this planet with limited resources and jobs, we can all be CEOs.

fuck that nonsense.

[Hexen]

Honestly I would expect this reaction from most Americans. There is a common consensus in America that those without homes were all given the chance to be successful, they were just too lazy to take it. They take no time to understand the situations that forced these people into the streets.

I suppose we can blame the uproar on good ol' fashioned American ignorance.


The American dream is the opium of the American people...

It creates a false sense of security, that one can "become just like them someday", as they work two jobs struggling to pay the rent on their tiny apartment.

Yet most everyone here buys that here, they didn't listen to Jimmy Carter when he spoke out against the American dream, as we're supposed to believe that, on this planet with limited resources and jobs, we can all be CEOs.

fuck that nonsense.


I think this is also why that a revolution in the US is very unlikely as long they have this delusional psyche and pursuing a non-existent goal that they can "rise to the top". Brings the concept of "Stupid American" into a whole new level...

[Adi Shankara]

I think this is also why that a revolution in the US is very unlikely as long they have this delusional psyche and pursuing a non-existent goal that they can "rise to the top". Brings the concept of "Stupid American" into a whole new level...

I actually like to think of the American Dream as a contemporary "Opium of the people", as people become less actively involved in religion. It keeps impoverished people in check from complaining or rising up, with the belief they can rise to the top, transferring blame from the ruling class to themselves for any poverty that becomes of them.

[incogweedo]

"Officials fear homeless encampments on the beach could damage tourism, and they are weighing several proposals that they say would help the homeless, while moving them from public view."

:rolleyes:

Uh-Oh, you guys here that? sounds like we're gonna have to start telling the homeless where they can and can't go because we wouldn't the tourists to see them, that would make us lose money. And we can't lose any money, that would mean i can't sleep on my mattress stuffed with 100$ bills. And they can't get any healthcare either, they're so greedy stealing my tax dollars right out of my wallet!

[Hoggy_RS]

It's sickening that the main issue is how to get rid of these homeless people rather than to try and solve the issues that have made them homeless.

[Communist Guy]

I agree, its a disgrace that these poor people should be treated like this. How can the Americans be so stupid that when they see homeless people they are afraid they might lose money. Rather than trying to help them and solve the problem they just want to get rid of them.

[Decommissioner]

The comment section found within that first link seriously made me depressed. Sometimes I can forget just how awful people around me are. That in itself doesn't depress me, but it's the fact that this awful attitude is socially acceptable and can be expressed casually amongst large groups of people without fear of repercussion that really brings me down. Sadly, most people don't find such hateful attitudes toward the homeless offensive.

We should adopt a policy, a policy of social ramifications. You talk like a bigot within earshot of strangers, expect a swift punch to the face. That may not change much..but at least it would feel satisfying to know that there is one more opinion bigots would feel fear expressing in public.

[Red Commissar]

The comment section found within that first link seriously made me depressed. Sometimes I can forget just how awful people around me are.

You haven't seen freerepublic before? Their whole site is pretty much right-wing lunacy and hatred.

[The Fighting_Crusnik]

hmm... and the right says that we are a Christian nation... if we were, these people wouldn't have to leave there state to get the help that they need. And if we were truly a Christian nation... the amount of broken families would be considerably lower and those with mental problems would be helped immediately rather than being tossed out. And as to them wanting the officials to move the poor out of public view, all they want to do is to hide the fact that the emotions that they harbor are evil and cruel. And by forcing these people out of public view, they are able make themselves think of the poor more as animals than people... and what's worse is, is that if their home states were to offer help, it would be called "socialism." And because the lawmakers only care about their ratings rather than what is right... they would cringe and do away with what help they may have offered.

[NGNM85]

hmm... and the right says that we are a Christian nation... if we were, these people wouldn't have to leave there state to get the help that they need. And if we were truly a Christian nation... the amount of broken families would be considerably lower and those with mental problems would be helped immediately rather than being tossed out. And as to them wanting the officials to move the poor out of public view, all they want to do is to hide the fact that the emotions that they harbor are evil and cruel. And by forcing these people out of public view, they are able make themselves think of the poor more as animals than people... and what's worse is, is that if their home states were to offer help, it would be called "socialism." And because the lawmakers only care about their ratings rather than what is right... they would cringe and do away with what help they may have offered.

That assumes that compassion, and charity are, in fact, Christian virtues. A substantial segment of Christian history seems to contradict this thesis.

[Adi Shankara]

That assumes that compassion, and charity are, in fact, Christian virtues. A substantial segment of Christian history seems to contradict this thesis.

a substantial segment of any history contracts the official version of history in almost any case.

after all, at the risk of offending a few here, what do you call the Derg, or Stalin? many in the mainstream can just say "a substantial segment of communist history seems to contradict this thesis".

doesn't mean that such ideals should be abandoned. it just means one should work harder towards achieving them.

[Obs]

That assumes that compassion, and charity are, in fact, Christian virtues. A substantial segment of Christian history seems to contradict this thesis.
I thought that all that matters is what it says in the holy book of a given religion? Or is that only when you can highlight the bad parts to spout your petty liberal antitheist tripe?