View Full Version : Examples of social agitation, strikes, riots, etc. in times of "prosperity"?
Broletariat
3rd August 2010, 17:58
I was running the thought through my head some days ago that the working class usually comes out in arms during the "down" part of Capitalism. Obviously they don't come out every time Capitalism is going bad EG Reagan years, but I couldn't think of any times when the working-class fought hard for gains while Capitalism was on the up-swing. I'm not very knowledgable about history so I'm probably ignoring a few obvious instances but that's why I'm here, thanks in advance.
Zanthorus
3rd August 2010, 18:16
Mai 68 stands out as an example of a revolutionary upsurge which happened while capitalism was still fairly stable.
Adil3tr
3rd August 2010, 19:17
People more easily subdued when prices are stable and unemployment is low. They try to succeed in capitalism and believe that it works. The most important reason is that during the downside of the business cycle capital dumps the workers to save costs and consolidates industry even more.
Broletariat
3rd August 2010, 19:24
People more easily subdued when prices are stable and unemployment is low. They try to succeed in capitalism and believe that it works. The most important reason is that during the downside of the business cycle capital dumps the workers to save costs and consolidates industry even more.
Right yea, that's why I was curious to search out instances of social unrest during "good times" of Capitalism.
ContrarianLemming
3rd August 2010, 21:31
The idea that unhappy workers/downtrodden workers are more revolutionary is a myth withlittle historical substance, infact the reverse seems to be true. the most progressive nations are social democracies, the most capitalist nations with the most unhappy workers are also the most capitalists - and the least revolutionary.
Spain, France, italy, the nations with the strongest history of class war are all social democracies compared to the US, which has a relatively weak labour history
Nations with the most stable capitalism are the most left wing.
It might seem like simple logic that nations with are least properious are most ready for change, but often it actually means the population is more reactionary.
The premise is false.
"Unhappy workers don't fight for freedom, they fight for bread" - Emma Goldman
Os Cangaceiros
3rd August 2010, 21:38
the US, which has a relatively weak labour history
Wrong. Totally wrong.
Adil3tr
3rd August 2010, 22:01
Yeah have you heard of the Seattle General strike of 1919?
Os Cangaceiros
3rd August 2010, 22:28
And (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877) that's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike) not (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_strike) the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Teamsters_Strike_of_1934) only (http://www.sangres.com/history/coalfieldwar01.htm) example (http://www.wvculture.org/history/minewars.html) of (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_West_Coast_waterfront_strike) America's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._postal_strike_of_1970) impressive (http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=1529&nm=Sit-down-Strikes) class-struggle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day#United_States) history... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain)
(Not to mention the countless local strikes and offensive actions taken by individual workers against management through various means.)
America's labour history was long and brutal. Everyone from Emma Goldman to Leon Trotsky recognized the American working population as one of the most aggressive on the planet. The problem (and the reason why some people don't consider it to be on the level of Spain or Russia or Britain) is that huge labour organizations didn't come out of it; but personally I question whether or not that's really a weakness. In many of the Western European nations these organizations simply became the managers of rebellion, and capitalism continues to thrive in Europe.
KurtFF8
6th August 2010, 03:45
"Unhappy workers don't fight for freedom, they fight for bread" - Emma Goldman
And peace... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik_revolution)
Tablo
6th August 2010, 08:36
The United States had some of the largest workers movements in the world. I guess some people don't know anything about it since it is the most played down part of American history in the classroom. :/
ContrarianLemming
8th August 2010, 04:22
The term "relative" appears to have lost all meaning here.
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