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Imposter Marxist
3rd August 2010, 04:07
I have a Comrade in Derry, and he said 25 minutes ago, he heard a VERY loud explosion. He says that a military barrack was rumored to be bombed.
http://twitter.com/search?q=derry, confirmation of BOOM sound. Ill keep you all posted. (He says it may have been the RIRA.)

Nachie
3rd August 2010, 04:10
Damn I was like, "who the hell is Brit Barrack?"

Tifosi
5th August 2010, 19:47
It wasn't a barracks that got attacked, it was a police station on Strand Road. Oglaigh na Heireann claimed it, not the RIRA. Anyway I'm sure the taxi driver is happy, seeing he has to get a new car, happy days.


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A Londonderry businessman has told UTV he and his staff are lucky to be alive after a car bomb exploded outside Strand police station on Tuesday morning.

Two men, one armed with a gun, left a device in a taxi at Cooke Street and ordered the driver to go to the Strand Road before abandoning the vehicle.

The explosion happened at 3.20am and caused damage to shop fronts and buildings across the road.

Logfi Jalloul owns a local kebab shop opposite the police station, he told UTV, he could have been killed: "The car pulled up in front of the police station and I saw a man running inside. I just thought it was a taxi driver waiting for a man to come out of the station. 15 minutes later a policeman came inside (the shop) and said get out quick. 5 minutes later I watched the car blow up.

I'm still in shock and I think the shop has been completely destroyed. The main thing is nobody was hurt. We got out safe, myself and my staff. Five minutes later and we would be somewhere else" he said.

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Mayor of Derry Colm Eastwood has condemned the attack:

"This is an unbelievable attack on the people of this city, never mind on the police service of Northern Ireland. It is completely against the will of the people.

"If these people are really Irish Republicans like they claim to be they should listen to the people of Ireland and move off the stage."

The incident comes just two weeks after Derry won the bid to become the UK capital of culture.

The mayor says the car bomb attack is a temporary setback:

"We won't let it hold us back. There's always going to be people in this society who want to drag us back to the past," he told UTV.

"We're determined to move forward to the future with positivity, in the spirit of reconciliation and we're very determined to do that. These people will not stop us."

Political leaders condemned dissident republicans believed to be responsible for the car bomb attack.

SDLP MP for Londonderry Mark Durkan said: "This was a cowardly, dangerous and vulgar act.

"It is extremely fortunate that no injury has been caused or life lost as a result of this attack.

"Those responsible for this incident have achieved nothing and this campaign of violence will achieve nothing."

DUP MLA Willie Hay has questioned whether the police have adequate support to deal with the incident.

"I think the question that we all ask ourselves: does the police have the proper resources now to deal with this very serious situation because I do believe that there is a situation developing where ordinary people on the ground believe that dissident republicans are out of control."

Sinn Féin Foyle MLA and Policing Board member Martina said: "This is the second such attack in the area in the last two months and I would call on those who support these groups to come forward and explain to the people of Derry how these bombs will in any way advance republican objectives.

It must have been a very frightening experience for the taxi driver caught up in this incident and local residents many of whom who are elderly who live in the surrounding streets. A number of local businesses have been badly damaged and it happened just yards from major works taking place at the North West Regional College.

Whichever grouping carried out this attack in Derry last night they need to seriously reflect on what they are doing. Their actions are no part of a campaign to bring about Irish unity and they have little or no popular support".

Officers are understood to have been evacuating the area when the device went off.

Source (http://www.u.tv/News/Dissident-car-bomb-explodes-outside-Derry-PSNI-station/3679f67d-23a2-4a12-b07b-95c840b3a12b)

Ravachol
5th August 2010, 20:18
Click (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/03/derry-officials-denounce-bomb-attack)



A car bomb containing 90kg of homemade explosives was blown up outside a police station in Derry this morning, after a taxi was hijacked at gunpoint, police in Northern Ireland said.

No one was injured in the blast, which damaged the perimeter wall of Strand Road police station as well as nearby shops and businesses. A dissident Republican group claimed responsibility.

Local politicians condemned the attack and said it was pure chance that no one was killed or injured.

Chief Superintendent Steve Martin from the Police Service of Northern Ireland said the incident began when two men hijacked a taxi in the Bogside district of the city in the early hours of the morning and took it to nearby Glenfada Park, where the bomb was loaded.

The driver was then forced at gunpoint to drive to the police station. Police received a telephone warning from Óglaigh na hÉireann, a splinter group of the Real IRA, saying the device would detonate in 45 minutes. According to Martin, the blast came only 23 minutes after the call, at 3.20am.

One police officer risked his own life by walking past the bomb twice to evacuate staff from a nearby fast-food outlet, Martin added.

The SDLP mayor of Derry, Colm Eastwood, said nearby buildings had been badly damaged. "There seems to be a lot of wreckage; the car is completely destroyed and it seems businesses across the street have been destroyed as well," he said.

"Police didn't even have time to evacuate a nursing home or apartments right beside the police station. We are very lucky today not to be talking about fatalities. It's an attack not just on the police but the entire community."

Mark Durkan, the SDLP MP for Foyle, condemned those behind the attack. He said: "This was a cowardly, dangerous and vulgar act. It is extremely fortunate that no injury has been caused or life lost as a result of this attack.

"Those responsible for this incident have achieved nothing and this campaign of violence will achieve nothing."

In May, a mortar bomb fired at the same police station struck a wall but failed to explode.

The Real IRA is active on the nationalist side of the city and has been responsible for a number of failed murder attempts on police officers over the last 18 months.

The attack comes weeks after Derry was boosted by the positive response to the Saville inquiry report into Bloody Sunday and after it was named the UK Capital of Culture for 2013.


The Guardian seems to make a mistake though since the dissident splinter calling itself Óglaigh na hÉireann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93glaigh_na_h%C3%89ireann_(CIRA_splinter_group )) is a CIRA splinter, not a RIRA one.

What they probably refer to is the fact that the RIRA refers to itself as Óglaigh na hÉireann (as it is the native name used for the 1919-1922 IRA) and the fact that there seems to be a split within the RIRA dividing it in two wings who operate rather independently of eachother but both operate under the RIRA banner.

This attack is attributed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Real_Irish_Republican_Army_actions#201 0) to the RIRA though.

Pretty Flaco
6th August 2010, 00:24
What was the objective of the attack? It doesn't sound like it was planned very well...

Devrim
6th August 2010, 00:27
What they probably refer to is the fact that the RIRA refers to itself as Óglaigh na hÉireann

As does the Irish army actually.

Devrim

DunyaGongrenKomRevolyutsi
6th August 2010, 00:45
What was the objective of the attack? It doesn't sound like it was planned very well...

To kill some squaddies presumably, it barely ever is planned very well either.

Kearney
1st September 2010, 19:20
What was the objective of the attack? It doesn't sound like it was planned very well...

There was very little chance of it killing someone as Police Barracks there are surrounded by bomb proof walls.

I believe it was an attempt to disrupt normalisation.


As for it being a Brit Barracks, it was. The Police force in the North of Ireland are an illegal British Police Militia enforcing British law in a foreign country. They don't have normal stations there but bomb and bullet proof barracks that are more secure than most army barracks.

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 19:36
The Guardian seems to make a mistake though since the dissident splinter calling itself Óglaigh na hÉireann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93glaigh_na_h%C3%89ireann_(CIRA_splinter_group )) is a CIRA splinter, not a RIRA one.

What they probably refer to is the fact that the RIRA refers to itself as Óglaigh na hÉireann (as it is the native name used for the 1919-1922 IRA) and the fact that there seems to be a split within the RIRA dividing it in two wings who operate rather independently of eachother but both operate under the RIRA banner.

This attack is attributed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Real_Irish_Republican_Army_actions#201 0) to the RIRA though.

No....Oglaigh Na Eireann generally refers to a group of ex-Provos who broke with the Provisional movement over accepting policing and have been carrying out a few low level attacks (more than the others from I can figure out though)...There was a group that split from the Continuity IRA who were using that name aswell but they were told to stop using it and have. ONH or Oglaigh Na Eireann are sort of linked to elements in the Republican Network for Unity who actually do a lot of good activism around working class issues.

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 19:38
As does the Irish army actually.

Devrim

Well they would all claim to be the Irish Army.

The Defense Forces of the 26 county regieme isnt much to write home about which is probably a good thing. "Proper" Militarism can really mess up a country.

fionntan
1st September 2010, 19:39
No....Oglaigh Na Eireann generally refers to a group of ex-Provos who broke with the Provisional movement over accepting policing and have been carrying out a few low level attacks (more than the others from I can figure out though)...There was a group that split from the Continuity IRA who were using that name aswell but they were told to stop using it and have. ONH or Oglaigh Na Eireann are sort of linked to elements in the Republican Network for Unity who actually do a lot of good activism around working class issues.

Bullshit ONH is a term used by the IRA to describe itself The provos were ONH as is the RIRA ONH and the contos also use the term in the right or in the wrong,

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 19:44
Bullshit ONH is a term used by the IRA to describe itself The provos were ONH as is the RIRA ONH and the contos also use the term in the right or in the wrong,

There is a seperate group though now that calls itself the ONH...I know its general term though.

fionntan
1st September 2010, 19:48
No....Oglaigh Na Eireann generally refers to a group of ex-Provos who broke with the Provisional movement over accepting policing


But that is untrue ONH is the IRA and the group you are referring to i dont think would like the fact you are connecting them to RNU.

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 19:52
No....Oglaigh Na Eireann generally refers to a group of ex-Provos who broke with the Provisional movement over accepting policing


But that is untrue ONH is the IRA and the group you are referring to i dont think would like the fact you are connecting them to RNU.

I said ELEMENTS within the RNU. Someone else stated here that they were the RNU's armed wing which is going way to far.

fionntan
1st September 2010, 19:54
So ONH is not a bunch of disgruntled provos so to speak you accept that?

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 19:57
So ONH is not a bunch of disgruntled provos so to speak you accept that?

Are you refering to the RIRA or the group that goes by the name of ONH?

The Real IRA, the Contos and ONH all came out of the Provisional movement.

fionntan
1st September 2010, 20:00
And the provisional movement also came from ONH...

fionntan
1st September 2010, 20:04
RIRA is a media term if you read there statements they are signed of with the brigade and ONH.

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 20:04
And the provisional movement also came from ONH...

Are you saying that contarary to popular belief there is no group seperate from the Reals and the Contos that calls itself ONH?

fionntan
1st September 2010, 20:11
There is yes what im trying to say is all militant republicans use the term not just the ones you refer to as disgruntled provos.

Palingenisis
1st September 2010, 20:34
The problemn with this attack is that even if we dont know now whether this Taxi driver was working class or self-employed now a lot of people in Ireland are going to be pretty annoyed at a not exactly member of the elite used this way against their will in the attack...

Hoggy_RS
2nd September 2010, 12:03
The problemn with this attack is that even if we dont know now whether this Taxi driver was working class or self-employed now a lot of people in Ireland are going to be pretty annoyed at a not exactly member of the elite used this way against their will in the attack...

They really have no interest in appealing to the working class, thats for sure. Putting taxi drivers at the risk of death so they can do some damage to the outside of a law station. They totally alienate themselves from working people when they show that they see no problem in putting ordinary folk in danger in order to 'smash normalisation'. They allegedly released a statement to the star newspaper on tuesday in which they said that they had no interest in politics, just armed action. So another backwards traditionalist republican group with no real goals other than the usual blind nationalism.

Sasha
2nd September 2010, 12:25
what if the bomb went of early and blown up the cabbie? thats one fucked up lame ass action. i hope these assholes blow themselfs up when they attempt to assemble their next bomb.

Kearney
5th September 2010, 05:11
They really have no interest in appealing to the working class, thats for sure. Putting taxi drivers at the risk of death so they can do some damage to the outside of a law station. They totally alienate themselves from working people when they show that they see no problem in putting ordinary folk in danger in order to 'smash normalisation'. They allegedly released a statement to the star newspaper on tuesday in which they said that they had no interest in politics, just armed action. So another backwards traditionalist republican group with no real goals other than the usual blind nationalism.


For a start they say that they don't give statements to Tabloids like the Star.


For those who condemn this attack let me try to explain this situation to you.


Why get the taxi driver to transport the bomb?
They get a hold of the taxi, get the bomb loaded into it. Now they can drive it themselves and when they get pulled over at a checkpoint (highly possible - especially in Derry at the minute) and they have to provide documentation. Now the photos on the documents for this taxi aren't going to match any of the Vols. , solution for this the taxi man drives.

Why they needed a taxi:

Civilian drivers aren't allowed to just pull up outside these barracks for periods of time but at night taxi's are for their own safety. Perfect way to get a bomb outside it and spend time arming it there without it seeming suspect.

The argument of the taxi driver has lost his livelihood.

He has insurance that will cover the cost of the car (if not a little bit extra) he will also claim for having been in such a traumatic experience were he will get a tidy little packet for his troubles.


Don't forget that the vols. accompanied the driver and the bomb to the barracks, armed it there and allowed the driver go to give a warning.There had been an article saying that the taxi man had heard the bomb ticking. Even if the vols. had used an actual clock as the timer, while it's in the boot (I assume if there's 3 plus in the car) you aren't going to hear it over the sound of the engine.

I would also like to say that I come to this conclusion from newspaper articles and other forums, I do not condone the use of proxy bombs but I'm simply trying to understand their tactics.

Kearney
5th September 2010, 05:12
what if the bomb went of early and blown up the cabbie? thats one fucked up lame ass action. i hope these assholes blow themselfs up when they attempt to assemble their next bomb.

saying that you clearly have no idea of the situation in the occupied six counties of Ireland.