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Die Neue Zeit
3rd August 2010, 00:17
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/opposition-gets-floor-but-no-recognition/410760.html



By Natalya Krainova



The Other Russia, a party led by Kremlin foe Eduard Limonov, managed to get a lengthy manifesto laying out its political platform, including the nationalization of oil and gas, published in the Rossiiskaya Gazeta newspaper on Tuesday, stirring hopes that the opposition might gain a political voice.

The publication came four months after the newspaper, the government's official mouthpiece, printed the political platform of another opposition party, the leftist Russian United Labor Front, or Rot Front, in March.

These cracks in the stony silence maintained by state-controlled media toward the opposition for years are spurring talk about a possible liberalization of politics under President Dmitry Medvedev, who has made vague promises to include the opposition in the national political discussion.

But many opposition leaders remained skeptical, dismissing the publications as technical formalities that do not mean the Kremlin will recognize its opponents any time soon.

The 2001 law on political parties obliges Rossiiskaya Gazeta to publish the programs of public groups that apply to be registered as political parties by the Justice Ministry.

Parties without the ministry's registration may not take part in elections.

Rot Front, which lists opposition activist Sergei Udaltsov among its leaders, saw its first registration application shot down earlier this month. It filed a second application Monday and will be followed by The Other Russia, which just held its founding congress this month.

No opposition movement has managed to win registration as a political party since 2004, when legislation was passed requiring parties to have at least 50,000 members.

Limonov promised on his blog to fight for registration.

"We have created a political party and will strive for its recognition despite the expected refusal by the Justice Ministry to register it," said Limonov, former leader of the banned National Bolshevik Party.

He called the registration requirement "unconstitutional" when reached by phone Tuesday.

His party's populist platform, as published in Rossiiskaya Gazeta, is at times a far cry from the liberal principles that The Other Russia promised when it was established as a coalition of opposition groups in 2006. In addition to oil and gas, the platform calls for the nationalization of coal production, electricity and all construction companies.

It also promises to fight bureaucracy and the use of "administrative resources," introduce a luxury tax, lobby for independent judges and free media, end compulsory military conscription and even move the capital to a brand new city to be built in southern Siberia.

Udaltsov, who currently heads the Left Front youth group, said Rossiiskaya Gazeta's printing of the platforms offered "no indication" of a warming of the political climate, especially given the Justice Ministry's refusal to register his party.

"We see no changes yet, but our attempts to register the party will be indicative of whether [Medvedev's] words correlate with his actions," Udaltsov told The Moscow Times.

It is unclear whether The Other Russia meets the 50,000-member requirement, but Udaltsov said his party had some 60,000 members.

Sergei Mitrokhin, leader of the liberal opposition Yabloko party, created in 1993, well before the Kremlin started to tighten the screws, said there was "nothing significant" in the Rossiiskaya Gazeta publications.

"They are obliged by law to do it," Mitrokhin said by telephone.

Liberal politician Boris Nemtsov said the publications are "absolutely nonthreatening" for the authorities.

"Few people read this newspaper. This is a mere formality," Nemtsov said, adding that the opposition parties "stand no chance" of being registered.

His position was echoed by Nikolai Petrov, an analyst with the Carnegie Moscow Center. He said the publications were intended "to demonstrate that there is freedom of speech and pluralism," but the opposition parties have "not the slightest chance" of being registered.

But Alexei Makarkin, an analyst with the Center of Political Technologies, said a "cautious liberalization" has been unfolding under Medvedev's presidency.

"We will see the limits of the liberalization later, but the registration of new political parties could be an indicator," Makarkin said.

In February, Medvedev sent the State Duma a bill that would reduce the number of members that a group needs to have to be registered as a political party to 40,000 by 2012. The change would not affect Duma elections next year.

Authorities have disbanded at least six opposition parties that did not meet the 50,000-member quota, including one of Russia's oldest democratic parties, the Republican Party headed by Vladimir Ryzhkov. Seven parties are now registered in Russia, compared with 17 in July 2007.

The last party to win registration, Right Cause in February 2009, is widely seen as a Kremlin project aimed at creating a loyal liberal party.

khad
3rd August 2010, 00:36
I've always wondered how a scatterbrained leftist like Limonov managed to maneuver himself into the position of leading the Other Russia, which is if anything dominated by liberals and other reactionaries. I like how all of them are downplaying this, even as it is the *official* line of their party. I suspect that they aren't going to let Limonov act as their party head much longer.

Adi Shankara
3rd August 2010, 06:16
I've always wondered how a scatterbrained leftist like Limonov managed to maneuver himself into the position of leading the Other Russia, which is if anything dominated by liberals and other reactionaries..

Oh no man, trust me, Eduard Limonov is NOT a leftist. He comes off as one, but is leader of the Nazbol party, which is a hardline fascist party that is against immigration of any kind, panders to fascist ideals, etc.

He and Nazbol are as far-right as they come, and they have a number of alliances with the Russian neo-nazi parties.

they are literally leftist in name only, and probably the most reactionary political party in the former Soyuz today.

also, be careful of anything published in Rossiiskaya Gazeta, they are known in Russian circles as a fascist organ of state power, toting the pro-Putinist line against all else.

khad
3rd August 2010, 06:27
Oh no man, trust me, Eduard Limonov is NOT a leftist. He comes off as one, but is leader of the Nazbol party, which is a hardline fascist party that is against immigration of any kind, panders to fascist ideals, etc.

He and Nazbol are as far-right as they come, and they have a number of alliances with the Russian neo-nazi parties.

they are literally leftist in name only, and probably the most reactionary political party in the former Soyuz today.

also, be careful of anything published in Rossiiskaya Gazeta, they are known in Russian circles as a fascist organ of state power, toting the pro-Putinist line against all else.
I've been following the NBP for a bit longer than you have, and it's clear you don't know the first thing about it or other Russian leftist groups. To call Limonov's NBP "hardline" fascist is nothing short of absurd. Before the NBP went into the Other Russia, they actually had considerable links with the Russian left and even cross membership with groups like the Red Youth Vanguard. Since then, the NBP split between the Limonov faction and the right-wing NBF under Dugin. Limonov's group actually went in with the liberals and is primarily using a human rights protest rhetoric now.

Limonov's ideology is "leftish," meaning he has leftist sensibilities, but no systematic way of theorizing and executing them. They're extremely prone to degeneration, but what basically happened was that joined the liberals in their anti-Putin alliance.

Adi Shankara
3rd August 2010, 06:30
I've been following the NBP for a bit longer than you have, and it's clear you don't know the first thing about it or other Russian leftist groups. Before the NBP went into the Other Russia, they actually had considerable links with the Russian left and even cross membership with groups like the Red Youth Vanguard. Since then, the NBP split between the Limonov faction and the right-wing NBF under Dugin. Limonov's group actually went in with the liberals and is primarily using a human rights protest rhetoric now.

Limonov's ideology is "leftish," meaning he has leftist sensibilities, but no systematic way of theorizing and executing them. They're extremely prone to degeneration, but what basically happened was that they fell into the liberal camp.

I suppose he does have leftist sensibilities, yes, you just read reports in the Russian press all the time of some Neo-nazi in his closet or rallying against immigration, or even orthodox Marxism...maybe the Russian papers are just really slanted, they tend to do that, seeing as media is tightly controlled by the Putin government (I know it's Medvedev, but Putin still controls everything by proxy)

khad
3rd August 2010, 06:34
I suppose he does have leftist sensibilities, yes, you just read reports in the Russian press all the time of some Neo-nazi in his closet or rallying against immigration, or even orthodox Marxism...maybe the Russian papers are just really slanted, they tend to do that, seeing as media is tightly controlled by the Putin government (I know it's Medvedev, but Putin still controls everything by proxy)
That's nonsense. Medvedev is already dismantling much of what Putin accomplished, which isn't much at all. Politically and institutionally Putin was a moderate, meaning that he was the guy playing power balancing among the various factions. With Medvedev, you're seeing the resurgence of the Atlanticists.

As for the Nazbols, they never had a clear ideological line. For them it was all about harnessing the energy of the youth to do shit (because the rest of the population is too "boring")--a very fascist-like sentiment if you think about it. It was inevitable that the party would fragment as the more right wing elements would leave as their leader Limonov praises things like Islam.

I think this latest manifesto is his last moment of clarity before he goes completely senile and is put out to pasture by his liberal allies.

Die Neue Zeit
3rd August 2010, 14:35
Before the NBP went into the Other Russia, they actually had considerable links with the Russian left and even cross membership with groups like the Red Youth Vanguard.

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Limonov's ideology is "leftish," meaning he has leftist sensibilities, but no systematic way of theorizing and executing them. They're extremely prone to degeneration, but what basically happened was that joined the liberals in their anti-Putin alliance.


As for the Nazbols, they never had a clear ideological line. For them it was all about harnessing the energy of the youth to do shit (because the rest of the population is too "boring")--a very fascist-like sentiment if you think about it. It was inevitable that the party would fragment as the more right wing elements would leave as their leader Limonov praises things like Islam.

I think this latest manifesto is his last moment of clarity before he goes completely senile and is put out to pasture by his liberal allies.

I wonder what will happen to his rank-and-file supporters once he's "put out to pasture." Will they squeeze their noses while continuing this collaboration? Will they go independent? Will they float away and liquidate into the Red Youth Vanguard and the rest of the Russian left?

howblackisyourflag
3rd August 2010, 14:49
I know it's a broad term,but is russia basically a fascist state as it exists today? Im talking specifically about the way the economy is run.

theAnarch
3rd August 2010, 15:20
I wouldn't say its fascist, from what I can see modern Russia is the product of the policies laid down by the communist party in the 70s and 80s its grossly authoritarian but not fascist.

Adi Shankara
3rd August 2010, 23:35
I wouldn't say its fascist, from what I can see modern Russia is the product of the policies laid down by the communist party in the 70s and 80s its grossly authoritarian but not fascist.

It's quickly heading there though; maybe not officially, but as hard as it is for me to say, Russian youth are extremely polarized, either divided into the smaller but still powerful anti-fascist cliques, or the larger, fascist Pamyat-like orders of Russian nationalists.

Generally, street battles in Russia between fascists and anti-fascists are extremely common, and what is made more ironic is most of the Russian far-right lionize Stalin, yet hate Marx.

What makes it even more ironic? most of the Pamyat, Slavyanskiy Soyuz, etc. parties don't allow Georgians or other Caucasians to join their groups, yet they love Stalin, the most famous Georgian who ever lived.

frankly, Russian fascists aren't known for their intellect.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
4th August 2010, 01:02
What happened with that Gary Kasparov dick-weed anyway? There was a lot of media-frenzy about him here in Sweden 2-3 years ago where Other Russia was portrayed as some marvellous grand project against the evil "Putin regimé", and he was portrayed as their ideological and political strongman and leader. There was a lot of whining from them.

I so despise that annoying Kasparov bastard, is he still involved heavily in Other Russia or has he gone quiet at last?

I once read a very annoying book - well, more like skimmed through it, it was so awful and full of imbecillic conspiracy nonsense (RUSSIAN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID FLAT-BLOCK BOMBINGS, etc), it was about that idiot former FSB-guy that died in London after exposure to that radioactive substance, written by some British quack-journalist prick and the dead spy's wife, the one that went on about Putin recreating Soviet Union (apparently GOSPLAN too) and how sad it was that Boris Berezovsky, one of the national rapists, didn't have more influence and how mean Putin was to him; there was a "documentary" to go with it and it basically revolved around Other Russia and how sad it was that no one really paid them attention.

Tangential, but what's with the Russian bourgeoisie and its agents passion for the United Kingdom?

Die Neue Zeit
4th August 2010, 06:35
It's the other way around. It's the passion of the UK bourgeoisie towards Russia.

Adi Shankara
4th August 2010, 06:36
What happened with that Gary Kasparov dick-weed anyway? There was a lot of media-frenzy about him here in Sweden 2-3 years ago where Other Russia was portrayed as some marvellous grand project against the evil "Putin regimé", and he was portrayed as their ideological and political strongman and leader. There was a lot of whining from them.

I so despise that annoying Kasparov bastard, is he still involved heavily in Other Russia or has he gone quiet at last?

In many ways, he has been pushed to the back of the movement, but recently is trying to gain more fame with the "Putin dolzhen uytiy" campaign, which is basically another failed attempt at removing Putin from Russia.

Personally, I can't see why you'd want to get rid of Putin. he is like the world's only IRL Bond villain, what with his killing Tigers, manning and flying fighter jets, and being a black belt in Jiujitsu.