should sex education be mandatory for any minor wishing to have sex?

[Adi Shankara]

I don't see how this could be a bad idea. maybe a single state-funded 2.5-3 hour class with the curriculum being: what constitutes rape, STD, the potential of being taken advantage of, teenage pregnancy (and the options available), what pedophilia is and how it could be harmful, what could happen emotionally, not to confuse love with sex, and how to practice safe sex.

the minor would get a sticker or stamp on their IDs stating that they passed the test, and failure to have attended the class while having sex could result in mandatory community service and a loss of privilege (no leisure driving, unlimited curfew for a designated time), while the adult would incur a penalty of possible imprisonment.

Therefore, I bet you could eliminate a number of birds with the same stone: Teenage pregnancy (since they'd know their options on what they could do), STDs (or at least dramatically lower them), and exploitation of minors (since they'd know how to recognize what love is, and what sex is, and the difference, plus their rights).

What say you? (me personally, I think the age for these set classes would be 15, since that is the average age of consent around the world I believe)

[Weezer]

Sex Education is a human right.

[Adi Shankara]

Sex Education is a human right.

This.

[Invincible Summer]

I think any minor - regardless if they plan to have sex or not - should have mandatory sex-ed.

[Adi Shankara]

I think any minor - regardless if they plan to have sex or not - should have mandatory sex-ed.

I think sex education shouldn't be mandatory until one turns to the age of majority, but for any minor wanting sex before the age of majority, it should be required for any sexual activity.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

I think sex education shouldn't be mandatory until one turns to the age of majority

Why?

[Weezer]

I think children should be taught about safe sex before their first word.

[Jimmie Higgins]

If sex ed was actually designed to answer people's questions and concerns and done in a way that was constructive, then what minor wouldn't want to find out this information?

In fact they do, but usually not from their teachers because sex ed - in the US anyway - is moralistic bullshit and totally uncomfortable for teachers and students, many adolescents get their real "sex ed" from TV, the internet, their parents "marital aids" (i.e. Dad's porno magazines) or from the ignorant claims of their classmates who probably got their information from their dad's porno. So as far as the science of sex goes in capitalist countries, we are still in the stage of using leeches and believing that the sun revolves around the earth.

So I guess in capitalism I am in favor of across the board sex-ed even though it is done poorly and most schools are more afraid of being attacked by "concerned right-wing parents" than actually giving students the knowledge they need (about sex, history, or anything for that matter). But I am only in favor of this because the alternative is things like people believing that mosquitos or toilets can carry aids and infect you and all the other myths and misconceptions about sex, pregnancy, and and STDs.

But after a revolution, there should be no mandatory sex-ed, it should be voluntary and self-selecting and I think it would be a class that never has any problems filling seats. In fact, I think all education beyond basic reading and math should be voluntary and open to anyone based only on interest and self-motivation.

[DragonQuestWes]

I think they should know about rapists and abortions too.

Teen pregnancies are often a result of the US's crappy sex-ed management and lack of support.

[ed miliband]

I can never really understand the fuss that is made about sex education. By the time kids have sex education classes I'd be suprised if they didn't know about sex, the risks, what it can result in, etc. Maybe my school was different, but that sort of thing was discussed on the school playground -- when other students learnt something from an older brother or sister it was spread pretty quickly and seen as 'forbidden knowledge'. We had a single sex education lesson in year six (so we were ten/eleven) and it just turned into a chance for teachers to be embarrassed and students to giggle. Nothing was learnt.

I understand the need to teach about protection, STIs, pregnancy, etc. but some people who go on about sex education seem to imply that teenagers get pregnant because they don't understand that sex will result in pregnancy, or that they don't understand how to have safe sex. I honestly struggle to believe that's the case.

Sex education should be a gradual process taught from an early age, if anything. Sex education at fifteen is less than worthless, imo.

[Pirate Utopian]

Sex Ed should be given to all kids, about when they get into their puberty.


I think sex education shouldn't be mandatory until one turns to the age of majority,
Why?


but for any minor wanting sex before the age of majority,
So, that's almost every last one of them? I had sex before turning 18.

[Adi Shankara]

So, that's almost every last one of them? I had sex before turning 18.

I had consensual sex roughly around the age of 14, and something earlier happen to me, but that is definitely not the norm; most people on average have sex after the age of 16 I believe. I'll have to look it up, but I think 15 or 16 make a good age of consent.

[Adi Shankara]

I can never really understand the fuss that is made about sex education. By the time kids have sex education classes I'd be suprised if they didn't know about sex, the risks, what it can result in, etc. Maybe my school was different, but that sort of thing was discussed on the school playground -- when other students learnt something from an older brother or sister it was spread pretty quickly and seen as 'forbidden knowledge'.

chatter on the playground is no substitute for a good education in sexual knowledge though. that's just asking for trouble.

[ed miliband]

chatter on the playground is no substitute for a good education in sexual knowledge though. that's just asking for trouble.

No, which is why I say sex education should be a gradual process that starts at an early age, not a one-off lesson that fifteen year olds get. That's pointless.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Sex education should be a continual process until they actually start having active sex lives. It's going to be easier to understand for 10-13 year olds than 5 year olds obviously. The sex education at my schools were pretty pathetic... we were segregated druning Sex Ed time at Primary... they spent so much time taking about the changes in 'my' body and totally disregarded the changes happening in the Female body. Sex education in schools should be mixed classes so Boys and Girls learn about both sides of the deal, I can explore my own body in my own time.

[GreenCommunism]

who gives a fuck about the changes in your body honestly. it's like telling kids that they will grow in size. i think i've heard that the process is harder for woman though. it may be hard for girls to wake up with a noticeable difference but i personally didn't panic when i saw pubes.

anyway i hear many far rightist like the bnp panicking over children being taught about sex in an early age, are they full of shit? do they have a point that we should let kids be kids for awhile and not know about sex? but then again, we would need to ban too many movies in order to do that. it kinda sounds like making a kid believe in santa claus at like 16.
¸
i remember being about 10-11 and being shocked at 7 year old kids calling one of my girl classmate a prostitute in fact we were discussing the matter in class and i told the teacher that they probably don't even know what is a prostitute.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Well, apart from most Parents, I don't think Children could give two shits about the changes in their bodies... the majority of the people in my group spent all their energy trying not to laugh. They dwelled on the body changes far too much and not on Sex itself, but it'll differ from School to school... my girlfriend basically got shown Porn with diagrams.

[durhamleft]

How about age 6/ 7 they get basic relationship advice, explaining what marriage, boyfriends, girlfriends etc are, maybe even throw in a bit of homosexuality. At 10, spice it up a bit and talk about masturbation, basic sex stuff like what goes where, the risks, puberty etc, then at around 13 get into the condoms on bananas, STI type stuff and continue that each year untill theyre 16.

[durhamleft]

Another idea I'd like to throw in the ring is that I went to a Church of England primary school, so when we got our Sex Ed it was actually tied in with our religious studies. While it wasn't too bad, there was always a underlying theme of 'some people are homosexual, which is okay, but they tend to be sinful bastards who have diseases' if you get my idea; so it would probably be a good idea to require schools to keep their RE and Sex Ed miles apart.

[ed miliband]

Another idea I'd like to throw in the ring is that I went to a Church of England primary school, so when we got our Sex Ed it was actually tied in with our religious studies. While it wasn't too bad, there was always a underlying theme of 'some people are homosexual, which is okay, but they tend to be sinful bastards who have diseases' if you get my idea; so it would probably be a good idea to require schools to keep their RE and Sex Ed miles apart.

Really? I went to a Catholic school and we had sex education in biology, PSHE (Personal, Social and Health Education), and in Religious Education. Obviously each covered things differently, and there was some moralising in religious lessons but the room was always upon for debate..

(Granted, this was in secondary school).

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

In England we already have PSHE classes, as far as I know they are started from age 11 upwards. They are perfectly adequate.

Having a sticker on their ID saying they've 'passed sex education'? What a load of crap. Sex is a human right. Sex education is simply the accomplice to sex.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Sex is a human right

Not this liberal shit again. Even if such a thing as human rights exists, there's no right to sex.

inb4 disabled people in Denmark, government paying visits to prostitutes, etc

[Dimentio]

I don't see how this could be a bad idea. maybe a single state-funded 2.5-3 hour class with the curriculum being: what constitutes rape, STD, the potential of being taken advantage of, teenage pregnancy (and the options available), what pedophilia is and how it could be harmful, what could happen emotionally, not to confuse love with sex, and how to practice safe sex.

the minor would get a sticker or stamp on their IDs stating that they passed the test, and failure to have attended the class while having sex could result in mandatory community service and a loss of privilege (no leisure driving, unlimited curfew for a designated time), while the adult would incur a penalty of possible imprisonment.

Therefore, I bet you could eliminate a number of birds with the same stone: Teenage pregnancy (since they'd know their options on what they could do), STDs (or at least dramatically lower them), and exploitation of minors (since they'd know how to recognize what love is, and what sex is, and the difference, plus their rights).

What say you? (me personally, I think the age for these set classes would be 15, since that is the average age of consent around the world I believe)

Better to just make it a compulsory part of education, like in Sweden with an opt-out choice.

[Kayser_Soso]

It definitely needs to be part of mandatory education. When you see things on YahooAnswers like "Is it true you can get pregnant from having sex?", things are really bad.

[durhamleft]

Really? I went to a Catholic school and we had sex education in biology, PSHE (Personal, Social and Health Education), and in Religious Education. Obviously each covered things differently, and there was some moralising in religious lessons but the room was always upon for debate..

(Granted, this was in secondary school).

Yes, but the school I went to was very big on religion. We always did do the 'scientific' bits, but even that had an undertone of religious moralising to it, and we were never told that masturbation was normal, it was simply 'some people do it however it is seen as sinful to some because...'

I can't begin to describe how forthright the whole RE was. We spend lessons being taught why the Bible is the word of God. No hint of if it is, or why some people disagree, it was religious indoctrination from the age of 5- 13. Secondary school is much more balanced, but even then, we still get told about fucking Jesus in assembly.

[Quail]

When I was in school I don't remember being told anything about gay sex, which I don't think is particularly good. I think sex and relationships should be spoken about openly as a child is educated and grows up (although obviously for younger children, spare any graphic detail).

Another issue I had was that the only contraception I really was told about was condoms (not very reliable) and the pill (not always appropriate), so I kind of had to do some of my own research.

I agree that young people should learn about each other's bodies too, because it could promote better understanding of each other.

[Weezer]

Whoever voted 'not at all' best be trolling.

[Magón]

I think under the context of the question asked in the poll, yes, minors should be taught about sex. But they shouldn't just be focused on the Abstinence part like most US schooling is from what I hear. (I didn't got to US schooling during the time Abstinence would be taught.) They should be taught safe sex, and that it's ultimately up to them as a human being to say whether they want sex or not. Our animal brain and body function, have us maturing at age 13 or so, and I think if two 13 year old wants to have sex, then let them, but teach them how to be safe at such an age because at that age they're all just hormones really, but it's inevitable some 13 year olds are going to sneak around somewhere and get their rocks off.

That's why I think in places like jr. highs, high schools, and even colleges/universities, they should have condom dispensers in the male/female restrooms, because it shows that sex isn't such a Taboo thing like it is nowadays in the US with most Americans.

[ed miliband]

It definitely needs to be part of mandatory education. When you see things on YahooAnswers like "Is it true you can get pregnant from having sex?", things are really bad.

Yeah but you know that YahooAnswers is a hotbed of trolling, right? Perhaps that isn't the case and I have too much faith in humanity.

[Weezer]

Yeah but you know that YahooAnswers is a hotbed of trolling, right? Perhaps that isn't the case and I have too much faith in humanity.

Yahoo Answers is by far the most reactionary site on the web. At least some of the fascists on Stormfront claim to be anti-capitalists.

[durhamleft]

Yahoo Answers is by far the most reactionary site on the web. At least some of the fascists on Stormfront claim to be anti-capitalists.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsipJoDv.i5Yz_ucfNfWgTelDH1G;_ylv=3?qid =20100802133816AA4zeeR

[Dimentio]

Yahoo answers is like... I don't find words for it.

[Stand Your Ground]

I don't see how this could be a bad idea. maybe a single state-funded 2.5-3 hour class with the curriculum being: what constitutes rape, STD, the potential of being taken advantage of, teenage pregnancy (and the options available), what pedophilia is and how it could be harmful, what could happen emotionally, not to confuse love with sex, and how to practice safe sex.

the minor would get a sticker or stamp on their IDs stating that they passed the test, and failure to have attended the class while having sex could result in mandatory community service and a loss of privilege (no leisure driving, unlimited curfew for a designated time), while the adult would incur a penalty of possible imprisonment.

Therefore, I bet you could eliminate a number of birds with the same stone: Teenage pregnancy (since they'd know their options on what they could do), STDs (or at least dramatically lower them), and exploitation of minors (since they'd know how to recognize what love is, and what sex is, and the difference, plus their rights).

What say you? (me personally, I think the age for these set classes would be 15, since that is the average age of consent around the world I believe)
Those 'punishments' sound a bit harsh. In my opinion it should be offered, but not forced, I understand trying to protect them and whatnot but restricting anyone's freedom from not taking the class is like the US gov telling us they need to wiretap us for our 'safety'. We don't need to mix up what rights and punishments are. Also when education is forced is when kids, in my opinion, hate it, and don't pay attention or even care about it. The parents should let them know when they feel the time is right, that they can go to a class to learn and if they take it or not is their choice.

[revolution inaction]

yahoo answers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_RaPOOVX1Y

[Adi Shankara]

I understand trying to protect them and whatnot but restricting anyone's freedom from not taking the class is like the US gov telling us they need to wiretap us for our 'safety'.

How is that even remotely the same? no one is telling minors they have to have sex. they just have to take an education class if they want to have sex, the same class most adults would've theoretically have taken if they graduated high school.

wiretapping, meanwhile, is practiced at a discriminatory level, without consent, without justified prior action on the wiretapped party sometimes.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Not this liberal shit again. Even if such a thing as human rights exists, there's no right to sex.

inb4 disabled people in Denmark, government paying visits to prostitutes, etc

How is there no right to sex? Should people be denied sex until they can pass an exam or declare their obedience and loyalty to Socialism?

Sex is sex. It is, if you think about it, the sole reason for our existence.

Yes, people need to be educated because of the unfortunate existence of STDs, homophobia, rape and so on, but that should be something that is a coaxing process, not a process whereby peoples' access to sex, so to speak, is controlled. Strikes me as ridiculous.

[Kayser_Soso]

How is there no right to sex? Should people be denied sex until they can pass an exam or declare their obedience and loyalty to Socialism?

Sex is sex. It is, if you think about it, the sole reason for our existence.

Yes, people need to be educated because of the unfortunate existence of STDs, homophobia, rape and so on, but that should be something that is a coaxing process, not a process whereby peoples' access to sex, so to speak, is controlled. Strikes me as ridiculous.

So then if there is a right to sex, then someone will inevitably be forced to have sex with someone.

[scarletghoul]

As an Anarchist I feel it important that we educate our youngsters about sex not just in theory, but in thorough and rigorous practical exercises too. It's important for small children, especially boys, to get the full experience so as not to deprive them. The right to sex is a right for all men, women and children. I personally would be willing to take a hands-on role in such a practical education drive, because the oppression of childrens' sexuality is perhaps the most damaging problem in our society. It is to me at least.

ps im not a pedo honest

or an english chauvinist

[Adi Shankara]

ps im not a pedo honest

or an english chauvinist

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[4 Leaf Clover]

not at all , what like , i have sex registration , and i have to show it to police officer before i want to have sex ? :lol:

thats just idiotic

[Stand Your Ground]

So then if there is a right to sex, then someone will inevitably be forced to have sex with someone.
Not necessarily, sex is a two way street, both or all (lol) parties must be consenting.

[Stand Your Ground]

How is that even remotely the same? no one is telling minors they have to have sex. they just have to take an education class if they want to have sex, the same class most adults would've theoretically have taken if they graduated high school.

wiretapping, meanwhile, is practiced at a discriminatory level, without consent, without justified prior action on the wiretapped party sometimes.
I'm saying that in the sense that the govt took away people's right to privacy without the people's voices being heard, if you try to take away someone's freedom to have sex as they please, you're doing the same.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

So then if there is a right to sex, then someone will inevitably be forced to have sex with someone.



Clearly, any reasonable soul can see that whilst people should not be stopped from having sex, that is based on a consensus between two people entering physical relations.


There is a difference between possessing the right to have sex and possessing an entitlement to sex with whoever one may desire.

[chegitz guevara]

Why limit it to minors?

[Kayser_Soso]

Not necessarily, sex is a two way street, both or all (lol) parties must be consenting.

So who wants to provide this man his "right" (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan)?

[#FF0000]

You guys are stupid and don't understand what rights are.

[Kayser_Soso]

You guys are stupid and don't understand what rights are.

I still didn't get an answer to MY question: Can you really get pregnant by having sex?

[leftace53]

Of course sex ed should be readily available for minors, majors, specializations, whatever. Where I grew up, we had harrassment videos starting in about grade 4-5 (age 9 ish), then puberty videos in grade 6, and legit sex ed in grade 7/8. Then I moved to a bigger city (Think greater toronto area), and much to my dismay, I had to sit through the "My body is changing", and "STI's are bad" video in grade 9 (for the third time), while this was all repeat for me, most of the kids in my class were learning about sex and puberty for the first time - in grade 9 (age 13/14).

Sex ed should be gradual integration in the education system starting from kindergarten (or whenever the hell school starts). I guess 6 year olds don't really need to know how to put the P in the V (I will get to my qualms of the heterosexualization of sex ed later), but they have a right to know about things like harrassment. Also, as someone who started puberty way before the topic of puberty was covered in school, that shit needs to be taught early, and not sex segregated. I partially blame the segregation of boys and girls during the puberty part of sex ed for the stereotypical male response to female agitation as "hormones".

In my highschool, sex ed was only taught in grade 9 for about 2 weeks, as a part of gym class (and therefore sex segregated). Gym is optional here after grade 9, so most people had a less than basic understanding of sex. Theres always a push around here for a stronger math curriculum, but nobody ever pushes for a stronger sex ed curriculum. Lets face it, many parents feel embarrassed to talk to their children about sex (and children for that matter, don't want to talk about something like masturbation to their parents), so while people may say that it should be up to the parents to educate their children about sex, many never do.

Also, never once did I see the topic of different sexualities being touched upon in sex ed. While it wasn't that the teachers said they were wrong, but it was an ommission as if other sexualities don't even exist. What about BDSM, and other kinks too, everyone has a right to know about these and not feel ostracized if they stray from "sexual normality".

Last but not least, sex ed never says how to have good sex (maybe we don't want to teach this to 6 year olds, but come on, I could have used this at 16). Where are the various sexual positions? Where are the classes that tell people to reciprocate? Many women don't have orgasms solely through penetrative sex, and therefore fake it, and think its perfectly OK. Many men don't realize that it might take stimulation as well as penetration for their partner to orgasm.

Sex is amazing when done right, and while nothing can beat hands on experiences, there is so much more theory to learn than what school curriculum teaches us.

[Obs]

So who wants to provide this man his "right" (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan)?
Someone named Julie, apparently.

[4 Leaf Clover]

"i wanted to have sex , but my mum grassed me to the old bill"

back seat , in a dark wood

"can i help you officer?"
"yes, show me your sex diploma"

:lol:

[Agnapostate]

There should be mandatory public provision, I'd say, not a compulsion to accept instruction, though it should gradually begin from such an early age that it's not really a matter of a definitive 'yes or no' decision. The specific agenda detailed in the OP reads of unnecessary authoritarian micromanagement, however.

[AK]

I don't see how this could be a bad idea. maybe a single state-funded 2.5-3 hour class with the curriculum being: what constitutes rape, STD, the potential of being taken advantage of, teenage pregnancy (and the options available), what pedophilia is and how it could be harmful, what could happen emotionally, not to confuse love with sex, and how to practice safe sex.

the minor would get a sticker or stamp on their IDs stating that they passed the test, and failure to have attended the class while having sex could result in mandatory community service and a loss of privilege (no leisure driving, unlimited curfew for a designated time), while the adult would incur a penalty of possible imprisonment.

Therefore, I bet you could eliminate a number of birds with the same stone: Teenage pregnancy (since they'd know their options on what they could do), STDs (or at least dramatically lower them), and exploitation of minors (since they'd know how to recognize what love is, and what sex is, and the difference, plus their rights).

What say you? (me personally, I think the age for these set classes would be 15, since that is the average age of consent around the world I believe)
State-funded, you want this to just end in communism; no money, no state? What's with the arbitrary 2.5-3 hours, anyway? Everyone gets some mandatory ID? No leisure driving and a curfew? Imprisonment for not letting your child attend sex ed? I'm sorry but this is idiotic. It will play out according to necessity, not according to your - dare I say and get ridiculed for it - authoritarian grand plan.

How would a police officer go about enforcing the bit about sex without sex ed, anyway? Are they going to break down your door as soon after someone calls the cops when they hear heavy pounding coming from the apartment next door?

[Adi Shankara]

State-funded, you want this to just end in communism; no money, no state? What's with the arbitrary 2.5-3 hours, anyway? Everyone gets some mandatory ID? No lesiure driving and a curfew? Imprisonment for not letting your child attend sex ed? I'm sorry but this is idiotic. It will play out according to necessity, not according to your - dare I say and get ridiculed for it - authoritarian grand plan.

What's wrong with mandatory state IDs? I mean, I know there is the whole 1984 type fear, but in a true workers Republic controlled by a dictatorship of the proletariat, there would be no possibility of authoritarianism since the state would be controlled by the people.

I mean it wouldn't work now, maybe but in a communist society it could.

and no, no imprisonment for kids; only imprisonment for adults who have sex with minors who don't pass the ed.

[Hiero]

Id cards for passing sex education. Another fucking stupid idea by Thomas Sankara.

Sex education should start at the onset of puberty through the public or private schooling system. That is it, it is quite simple really.

[AK]

What's wrong with mandatory state IDs? I mean, I know there is the whole 1984 type fear, but in a true workers Republic controlled by a dictatorship of the proletariat, there would be no possibility of authoritarianism since the state would be controlled by the people.

I mean it wouldn't work now, maybe but in a communist society it could.

and no, no imprisonment for kids; only imprisonment for adults who have sex with minors who don't pass the ed.
I made it clear that I understood that it was the parents that would have the possibility of imprisonment. I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to re-explain it.

PROTIP: Don't even bother telling an anarchist about your statism.

[LETSFIGHTBACK]

Adults tell teens to be "responsible" and not have sex. First off, we are all sexual animals, and to deny this fact is foolish. 2nd, telling teens to be responsible and not wanting them to have sex education, knowing they are going to have sex anyway is irresponsible. Teens wanting to take sex education and using condoms IS being responsible on the part of teens.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

What's wrong with mandatory state IDs? I mean, I know there is the whole 1984 type fear, but in a true workers Republic controlled by a dictatorship of the proletariat, there would be no possibility of authoritarianism since the state would be controlled by the people.



Wow, that is naivety. You clearly haven't modelled human behaviour into your thoroughly exhaustive scientific calculation there.

I cannot think of a worse society than one where one has to take a class to do the one positive thing that humans have done - non-stop - for millions of years, and where people are forced to have ID cards that could, theoretically, be used for any sort of tracking, snooping or spying purposes.

I presume you were a vocal supporter of New Labour's ID card plans, then?

[McCroskey]

A licence to have sex? As if it was a driving licence or a weapons licence? Stamps on your IDs to show that you can have sex legally?

Oh my god! Even living under Franco´s national catholic regime, when they had to have a marriage certificate to share a room in a hotel, my parents wouldn´t have even dreamed of something as fascist as this!

What´s next? Having to take a course on healthy food and have a stamp on your ID before being able to order a takeaway curry? Having to take a course on responsible drinking and having your ID stamped before being able to ask for a pint in the pub? Taking a course on parenthood and having to show your stamped ID to the authorities to be allowed to have children? The UK Home Office "britishness tests" and the pledge of allegiance to the queen must have been your inspiration, haven´t they?

I am all for sensible and compulsory sex ed in the curriculum, but your idea of socialism would make my parents look back at Franco´s fascist regime as an era of sexual freedom! :confused:

[Exasperated_Youth]

How is sex not a right? Socialism is all about letting people reach their human potential, everyone should have a chance to have a fulfilling sexual relationship. Just because some people are dumb doesn't meant we shouldn't have education for everyone?

I assume that the poster was taking a fairly nihilist view, especially considering her remark "If such a thing as human rights exists".

[Exasperated_Youth]

Id cards for passing sex education. Another fucking stupid idea by Thomas Sankara.

Sex education should start at the onset of puberty through the public or private schooling system. That is it, it is quite simple really.

The first part... I agree with. A sex license is insane.

The second part... No, it isn't.
The onset of puberty varies a lot between individuals for one thing. By choosing a particular age, you risk being too late to inform some that need to know. If you're going to be safe and aim early, then why not start as early as appropriate, ie P1 (first year of schooling).
Scottish sex education is meant to begin in P1, if I remember correctly (they started talking about this when I was older) with 5 year olds being taught to associate body parts with different sexes etc, then moving on to relationships etc, until about age 10/11 at which they are told how sex works.

My school just threw us in at the deep end at about 10/11 with videos about masturbation, sex and puberty. Boys and girls were separated to have question and answer sessions with teachers of the same sex, to avoid embarrassment on the part of girls wishing to ask about periods etc and boys wishing to know about wet dreams and the like. On the whole, it was fairly good, the only criticism being the lack of education on things like homosexuality.

You could opt-out if you or your parents wanted, and I think this was pretty key. There are some things parents want to teach their kids about themselves, sometimes for personal reasons.

[727Goon]

Sex education is necessary, but a license to have sex is fucking insane. If I didn't know any better I'd think that this idea would be like an "anti-big government" conservative parody of socialism. What the fuck.

[Agnapostate]

Sex education is necessary, but a license to have sex is fucking insane. If I didn't know any better I'd think that this idea would be like an "anti-big government" conservative parody of socialism. What the fuck.

Shit, that's exactly what I was thinking.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

As others have said, requiring a license to have sex is insane.Its a natural biological function. It would be the same as imposing a tax on breathing.

I am opposed to the increasing atmosphere of punishment for young people. We make kids sit in prison-like schools for 6 hours a day to prepare them for equally dehumanizing workplaces. Kids are punished for drinking alcohol. In the US kids can go to jail for underage sex (I don't want to get into that discussion however), kids are punished for bad grades.

Not to be crass, but if people are required to have a license to have sex, would that include masturbation? ("Sorry officer, I was just looking for some change in my pocket") Gay sex? Non-genital sex? I know one person who can reach orgasm by caressing her toes. According to Norman Brown any fulfilling satisfying work, "polymorphous perversity" could be regarded as a form of sex.

Anyway I think its better to focus on education in a healing, caring way instead of increasing the coercive power of the capitalist state. I strongly support sex education. It is a right.

[S.Artesian]

I think any minor - regardless if they plan to have sex or not - should have mandatory sex-ed.


Once you make it mandatory and conditional-- i.e. mandatory if you plan to have sex-- you get into the problem of enforcement. We need to recognize everybody is going to have sex, of some sort, planned or not planned.

OK, everybody goes to school, everybody is taught to read, everybody is taught about sex. It's just part of the core curriculum.

Adults, I guess, would take refresher courses, and when moving to another location, enroll in "second language" equivalents of sexual education in their new locations. I like that idea, and it would inspire me to move to as many different locations as possible in my lifetime.

Oh... and for men, passing the course depends on actually listening to women.