What constitutes patriarchy and why is it wrong?

[al8]

Specifically how does it manifest itself in traditionally somewhat core-capitalist countries like Scandinavia; Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland etc. Where women are no longer chattel slaves to husbands and fathers.

Please, concise answers, if you can.

[maskerade]

I'd say that it's mostly manifested in family relations, and then through social stereotypes. The exploitation of women goes beyond being "chattel slaves". Most members of the ruling class are men, women get paid less than men, and women have much higher expectations to fulfill than men, especially in terms of looks etc.

I'm from Sweden

[Thirsty Crow]

I'd say that it's mostly manifested in family relations, and then through social stereotypes. The exploitation of women goes beyond being "chattel slaves". Most members of the ruling class are men, women get paid less than men, and women have much higher expectations to fulfill than men, especially in terms of looks etc.

I'm from Sweden
This, definately this.
Now, it's not that I'm overemphasizing economic matters over social and cultural ones, it's just that here the symptoms of systemic patriarchy are mostly visible. Statistics do exist, but I do not have the time right now to dig them up. Although, if I remember correctly, most of the so called western democracies do not differ from this rule.

[costello1977]

I'd say it is very prevailant in Ireland both sides of the partition.

With regards to the source of this patriarchy, this stems almost completely from the reliance of the Irish people on the "faith", with reference to all religious sects. Religion in Ireland, be it Roman Catholic, presbyterian, free presbyterian etc, is very much so male dominated. To preserve the church status quo, it is heavily in their interest to subjugate females, limiting their role in the community to baby maker, home maker etc. However, I find the Irish to be a paradox because despite this, in most homes the woman of the house is very much so in charge.

I had to laugh the other day when I saw a young feminist, big on their rights, using a facebook application in which she was cooking. Couldn't get my head around it.

[Exasperated_Youth]

I'd say it is very prevailant in Ireland both sides of the partition.

With regards to the source of this patriarchy, this stems almost completely from the reliance of the Irish people on the "faith", with reference to all religious sects. Religion in Ireland, be it Roman Catholic, presbyterian, free presbyterian etc, is very much so male dominated. To preserve the church status quo, it is heavily in their interest to subjugate females, limiting their role in the community to baby maker, home maker etc. However, I find the Irish to be a paradox because despite this, in most homes the woman of the house is very much so in charge.

I had to laugh the other day when I saw a young feminist, big on their rights, using a facebook application in which she was cooking. Couldn't get my head around it.

I agree with you on the religion part, but the second bit?
Perhaps it is precisely because she believes she has equal rights that she used the cooking app? Why should she abstain from anything she enjoys to avoid a stereotype? If she likes it, she likes it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought feminism was about the rejection of discrimination, not pedantic attempts at non-conformism.

[Bubbles]

Here in Sweden, women is seen as a little bit less of a complete human rather then their male peers. A consequence for some swedish women after taking the step out to working and contributing with a salary to the family is that they have to wage work, AND do house hold works. Even though it's getting better and more males in the traditional heterosexual relationship help out at home and treat their women less like a belonging which is part house hold machine, part sexual object. But women still make less then men for the same work and suffers from negative discrimination. We have Christian Democrats (Kristdemokraterna) and Sweden Democrats (Sverigedemokraterna) fighting against the development that gives patriarchy less power.