gaining cuban residency?

[Bijan Li Causi X]

Hey, i was wondering how i could go about moving to cuba, I am european and a male.

I cannot find work here, i have seen my parents work their asses off, only to be made redundent, mywhole life is pretty grim.

I know cuban life won't be easy, but i am willing to work any manual job, no matter what hours.

Is it easy to get an arranged marrige, and if that isnt possible, can a marxist claim political asylum or anything?

Thanks, and, hope you can give me some info.

I looked on google, but it just lead to yahoo answer threads, where the answers were all "cuba is a monsterous hellhole where rape is currency blah blah blah

[Sasha]

the brother of my grandpa got an cuban citizenship but that was because he lost his dutch one after he went to spain to fight in the international brigades.

so, i gues they do take some politcal asylums but i'm not sure you qualify.

[maskerade]

unfortunately, because of the embargo and the collapse of a socialist trading bloc, there are not many jobs in Cuba...the government has had to make thousands of state workers redundant :( hopefully ALBA will become more socialist and do some good.

I woud suggest you go to the nearest cuban embassy/consulate and ask there, they would probably know best. Other wise you could try to study there, and then take it from there?

best of luck!

[REDSOX]

Contact the Cuban embassy in London. They may be able/not able to help!!

[FreeFocus]

I think you're looking at a pretty drastic option. Do you even speak Spanish?

[Raúl Duke]

I think you're looking at a pretty drastic option. Do you even speak Spanish?

This is important...

If you were a political refugee this would undoubtedly be easier.
I'm not sure what is Cuba's immigrating process.

[Bijan Li Causi X]

i am learning, i will make sure i can before trying to get residency.

if i stay here, i will probably just open my veins up, im pretty ready to just end shit, not just because of material conditions, but the society we are in, id just rather not be here for it.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Emigration to Cuba has been discussed on several previous threads. If you are an EU citizen, Canadian, or Eastern European it may be fairly easy and cheap to visit Cuba as a tourist or study there for a few semesters.

A lot of leftists, including myself, have considered moving to Cuba at some time. While the country has elements of socialism, they have problems of their own. The economy has long suffered devastation because of the US embargo and more recently the end of Soviet subsidies.
Having said this there are communities of expat leftists living and working in Cuba.

This may be of some help.

http://www.havanatimes.org/

As cheesy as this may sound, there's a Lonely Plane guidebook about Cuba which might be useful

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/cuba

[Lenina Rosenweg]

i am learning, i will make sure i can before trying to get residency.

if i stay here, i will probably just open my veins up, im pretty ready to just end shit, not just because of material conditions, but the society we are in, id just rather not be here for it.

You're certainly not alone. Many people are suffering under horrible economic conditions right now. To be honest the situation will probably get worse. The good thing about Europe (unlike the US) is that there is a growing working class fightback. Even if your life is shit you can help change things by joining in the struggle.

Immigration may not be the worst option. Obviously millions of people have done this in the past. Cuba, because of the embargo, decades of demoralization, and their own parasitic bureaucracy, may not be the place many imagine it to be.

Venezuela or even Bolivia may actually be better options. It would help enormously to speak at least some Spanish first.

I shouldn't have to say this, but please don't do anything stupid. Capitalism may not have any use for you, but the working class struggle sure as hell does.

[Adil3tr]

You can't just run away from capitalism, Cuba probably doesn't have many jobs because of the embargo. I would recommend staying and fighting, but if you do go, I would look into medicine.

[fa2991]

Not to be mean, but I doubt that Cuba wants you. They have problems employing, housing, and feeding their own citizens as it is. I'm sure the last thing they want is another mouth to feed.

[brigadista]

and Cuba is hot and can be very humid and you have to speak spanish to live there

[RadioRaheem84]

i am learning, i will make sure i can before trying to get residency.

if i stay here, i will probably just open my veins up, im pretty ready to just end shit, not just because of material conditions, but the society we are in, id just rather not be here for it.

Where in Europe if you don't mind me asking? Is it that bad in the EU? I am sorry to hear about your situation, comrade. It's hard for all of us too. I was thinking about leaving the US for Europe or Canada but I hear the situation is the same all over. I don't see how it could be worse than the US though.

[AK]

You can't just run away from capitalism, Cuba probably doesn't have many jobs because of the embargo. I would recommend staying and fighting, but if you do go, I would look into medicine.
Sorry to be all infantile and ultra-leftist in this thread, but how does going to Cuba equate to escaping capitalism?

[DragonQuestWes]

I can safely say that if you're really up for the challenge, by all means go for it. I'm pretty sure that Cuba would be able to accept political refugees as much as any other nation would.

I can remember that during the Korean War, four US soldiers managed to defect to the DPRK and gain North Korean citizenship after years of being there, including the last American living there, Joe Dresnok.

[fa2991]

I can safely say that if you're really up for the challenge, by all means go for it. I'm pretty sure that Cuba would be able to accept political refugees as much as any other nation would.

I can remember that during the Korean War, four US soldiers managed to defect to the DPRK and gain North Korean citizenship after years of being there, including the last American living there, Joe Dresnok.

That's a bit different, though. I doubt that the Cubans are in need of foreigners to star in propaganda films and read broadcasts to enemy soldiers about how great life is in Cuba.

[the last donut of the night]

Sorry to be all infantile and ultra-leftist in this thread, but how does going to Cuba equate to escaping capitalism?

Regardless of what you think about Cuba's social and economic relation to capitalism and socialism, it must be acknowledged, even by anarchists, that the progressive policies put in place after 1959 are astounding.