Gaming in a Post-Revolutionary society

[Hexen]

I think in the past I have created a similar thread but I don't want to bother bumping it I decided to create a new discussion...

So what do you think that gaming will be like under a post-revolutionary society? Well another point I like to bring up is that, have you ever noticed that most game companies don't actually release the source codes for their games (maybe the exception with id software)? Would you consider this the best proof that we do indeed live in a capitalist society? Maybe perhaps in a post-revolutionary society, almost every source code would be released? Also is the modding communities (http://www.moddb.com/) a example how game development would run under a post-revolutionary society?

[ContrarianLemming]

I think it would be like Linux, no intellectual copyright nonsense, free modding for all etc.
How linux works seems like the future
Free software movement dream basically.

theres also a group for gaming, you might want to ask this there aswell.

[Hexen]

Another thing I've been wondering...

Is free software, modding communities, etc as it exists today are actually incompatible under capitalist society according how the system works? If so, why do they (Linux, etc) exist in capitalist society anyways? Is their current existence in capitalist society actually accidental just like the internet?

[ComradeOm]

Would you consider this the best proof that we do indeed live in a capitalist society?No, don't be silly. I consider the best "proof" of capitalist society to be the exploitation of wage labour by a parasitic capitalist class. You don't have to look far to see examples of that

As for the rest, who knows. I don't see why games should be treated differently to any other commodity in a post-revolution society. I hope not as most mods are pretty poor when compared to the finished product

[ContrarianLemming]

Another thing I've been wondering...

Is free software, modding communities, etc as it exists today are actually incompatible under capitalist society according how the system works? If so, why do they (Linux, etc) exist in capitalist society anyways? Is their current existence in capitalist society actually accidental just like the internet?

no more accidental then worker co-ops.

[Adil3tr]

I think we would have software developers' cooperatives set up to make games, and the people who would play them would have an active role in production to make good games. The games would then be available for free download, and a full apparatus to gauge players' reaction would be set up.

[ContrarianLemming]

and the people who would play them would have an active role in production to make good games. we already do this, a lot :)

[Adil3tr]

Yes but there are too many crappy games, and I mean on a daily basis

[danyboy27]

not to burst your bubble here, but shoudnt we be talking about, i dont know, taking the mean of production back, stuff that actual matter?

dont get me wrong, i am a gamer and all, but all that seem actually pretty irrelevant for me right now.

now if you excuse me, i have to go back working for free until 5:00 PM.

[dearest chuck]

none of it actually matters, because there isn't going to be a revolution, but if there were, gaming would be absolutely forbidden, because games are for children and communist societies would be terribly serious places.

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

none of it actually matters, because there isn't going to be a revolution, but if there were, gaming would be absolutely forbidden, because games are for children and communist societies would be terribly serious places.

How true. I reckon the only game to survive a period of transition to a post-scarcity egalitarian world would be chess, and that kind of diversion would only be allowed to be played with 32 grey pawns, all on the same side of the board. Its function would be to serve as a tool of political education.

[Uppercut]

I've actually wondered the same thing as the OP. Computer games would definately thrive through more open-source production, but what about consoles? I'm guessing wiis, xboxes, and PS3s would cease to be manufactured.

[ComradeOm]

I've actually wondered the same thing as the OP. Computer games would definately thrive through more open-source production, but what about consoles? I'm guessing wiis, xboxes, and PS3s would cease to be manufactured.Why?

[ContrarianLemming]

I've actually wondered the same thing as the OP. Computer games would definately thrive through more open-source production, but what about consoles? I'm guessing wiis, xboxes, and PS3s would cease to be manufactured.

indeed why, why couldn't sony's people simply covert to a co-op?

Every evl corporation after revolution isn't going to just disappear, there going to change, we'll still have sony, only it's going to be Sony collective, not the Sony corporation. We can still have microsoft making software, except it's going to be microsoft Co-op.

[Uppercut]

indeed why, why couldn't sony's people simply covert to a co-op?

Every evl corporation after revolution isn't going to just disappear, there going to change, we'll still have sony, only it's going to be Sony collective, not the Sony corporation. We can still have microsoft making software, except it's going to be microsoft Co-op.

Yes, I'm hoping that would be the case. But if each company is made into a co-op, they may still compete for the sake of profit. Or we could nationalize the gaming industry along with software manufacturers to encourage and develop more cross-platform gaming.

[dearest chuck]

under communism there would have to be a massive, bloody purge of all the geeks, nerds, dweebs and dorks.

[Thirsty Crow]

How true. I reckon the only game to survive a period of transition to a post-scarcity egalitarian world would be chess, and that kind of diversion would only be allowed to be played with 32 grey pawns, all on the same side of the board. Its function would be to serve as a tool of political education.
The fuck?
What the hell are you people talking about??? :blink::blink:
Oh you bloody little trolls.

[dearest chuck]

a revolution is not a LAN party.

[manic expression]

There was a thread on this awhile ago, and although my videogame days are behind me it was still pretty interesting. Basically, one poster who worked in the industry said it would undoubtedly improve in a socialist society, since the biggest problem with games now is rushing them to production deadlines before they're actually ready. Without the capitalist profit motive games will be better and more polished. Plus, once socialism advances itself they'll be universally available for free. Can't really argue with that.

[Hexen]

As for the rest, who knows. I don't see why games should be treated differently to any other commodity in a post-revolution society. I hope not as most mods are pretty poor when compared to the finished product

I guess you haven't played too many mods haven't you? Sure there are mods that are incredibly bad but there's also mods out there that are actually just as good or even better than the finished product.

I think game development under a post-revolutionary would look like this (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19&sid=0439faad4feda3073fe6dd3d82962937) for example.

[ComradeOm]

I guess you haven't played too many mods haven't you? Sure there are mods that are incredibly bad but there's also mods out there that are actually just as good or even better than the finished productI did not deny the existence of good mods. Are there mods that are as good and as polished as any professionally produced game? Of course. They're just the tiny minority of all mods that are produced - a few pearls in a sea of swine, if you will