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Desperado
28th July 2010, 00:15
Without a state how is a community protected from criminals? I understand that crime mostly stems from inequalities, poverties and a lack of education, though even assuming anarchy works in massively eliminating these ills it would naive to assume that there would be no incidents.
durhamleft
28th July 2010, 00:26
Without a state how is a community protected from criminals? I understand that crime mostly stems from inequalities, poverties and a lack of education, though even assuming anarchy works in massively eliminating these ills it would naive to assume that there would be no incidents.
I think it depends on the branch of Anarchism you're looking at. I'm not an expert on the matter by any stretch of the imagine but seeing as no-ones replied yet you may as well hear my ramblings.
I think the more "liberal" anarchists would be of the view that there should be policing, however the less policing the better.
Some anarchists are of the belief that one you move inequality and injustice and oppression from the state crime will be reduced greatly, and to the extent that crime would not be a problem.
Some perhaps believe that there would be crime but it would be for individuals and groups to decide how to deal with it, and not a government.
As I say, this is probably the worst response you'll get on the matter, but I think many anarchists would be more anti police supporting Government agendas than anti police all together. Hope this helps a teeny bit. There's a book on anarchism I have that explains it all but I read it a few years ago when I was only 14 and had difficulty understanding much of it.
ContrarianLemming
28th July 2010, 02:15
Some anarchists are of the belief that one you move inequality and injustice and oppression from the state crime will be reduced greatly, and to the extent that crime would not be a problem.
this is what most anarchists believe.
as for any crime that's left..
it would be for individuals and groups to decide how to deal with it, and not a government.
a fine response duhamleft, coming from an expert :)
Nachie
28th July 2010, 03:03
As the revolutionary movement develops and local self-organization takes over from the state, people invariably arm themselves and set up different ways of protecting their gains from capitalist counterattack or bureaucratic co-option. These workers' militias, neighborhood defense committees, violent mobs of radicals - or whatever they may be - end up becoming the framework for community "protection and service" in a post-capitalist future. It's impossible to theorize on exactly how these systems would function without taking into account the varied living contexts from which they spring.
Sasha
28th July 2010, 03:12
most anarcho-syndicalists/anarcho-communist envision some form of "conscription" police/military duty i.e. there is some form of police/militia group that everyone in the commune should, in turns, be part of for some time. people performing this community task will be excempt from most other communal obligations.
so just as there should be designated people harvesting the grain there will be people dealing with "police matters".
but its important to note that most anarchist reject the police to be an career option, its an necesary evil we will all take the brunt to bear but its not sommething you can become professionaly.
meow
28th July 2010, 04:47
most anarcho-syndicalists/anarcho-communist envision some form of "conscription" police/military duty i.e. there is some form of police/militia group that everyone in the commune should, in turns, be part of for some time. people performing this community task will be excempt from most other communal obligations.
so just as there should be designated people harvesting the grain there will be people dealing with "police matters".
but its important to note that most anarchist reject the police to be an career option, its an necesary evil we will all take the brunt to bear but its not sommething you can become professionaly.
yes except for "conscription" which says force. rotating group that everyone takes turn in. if they desire.
and "policing" is different from forensics and similar. professionals who gather evidence should not be related to militia in anarchist society.
but as nache say it depends on place and time. we dont lock the future into our ideal.
this is an invasion
28th July 2010, 07:08
Also, I would hope people that live in neighborhoods would have, by the time we reach communism, developed strong enough bonds with the people that live around them to be able to hash out most problems by just being real ass people.
Invincible Summer
28th July 2010, 07:20
Also, I would hope people that live in neighborhoods would have, by the time we reach communism, developed strong enough bonds with the people that live around them to be able to hash out most problems by just being real ass people.
How scientific :lol:
But I think even a basic form of defense and security is necessary in the rare case that some reactionary elements or just random crazy shit happens.
meow
28th July 2010, 09:52
How scientific :lol:
But I think even a basic form of defense and security is necessary in the rare case that some reactionary elements or just random crazy shit happens.
i agree. if aliens invade we definetly need a means of defense! and if what if a crazy group of people decide to bring down the government? it only needs three or four people and they could take the a city! example washinton with those 2 nut cases a few years back.
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