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scarletghoul
22nd July 2010, 16:31
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10708486
Three killed in attack in western Bangladesh

By Anbarasan Ethirajan BBC News, Dhaka http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48412000/gif/_48412595_bang_dhaka_190710.gif
Three policemen were killed in an attack by suspected left-wing extremists in western Bangladesh, officials say.
The incident took place in a remote area in the district of Pabna.
Police say extremist groups have been active in south-western Bangladesh. They are wanted for murder, drug trafficking, abduction and extortion.
Reports say more than 70 people were killed last year in violence related to left-wing extremists in the country.
Tuesday's assault was the first major attack on security forces in recent months in the region.
A senior police official told the BBC that a team of security personnel went into the area after being tipped off that suspected left-wing extremists were holding a meeting there.
They came under fire from the extremists and all three policemen were killed on the spot.
Police at first said a local guide had been killed, but have now said he escaped and is alive.
Additional police forces have been sent into the area to search for the attackers. Media reports say people have fled the area, fearing arrest.
http://www.zeenews.com/news642669.html

Bangladesh asks security agencies to tackle Maoists
Updated on Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 23:01 IST
Dhaka: Bangladesh today ordered the law enforcement agencies to use maximum combat force against suspected Maoists, a day after the ultras killed three policemen at a remote area in northwest Pabna district.

"State Minister for Home Shamsul Haque Tuku asked the law enforcement agencies to use maximum combat power to face the extremists," a local journalist told PTI quoting the minister as he visited the scene at Bera.

The journalist said Tuku asked the police and elite anti-crime Rapid Action battalion (RAB) troops to track down the suspected killers and bring them to justice.

"The extremists suddenly fired gunshots killing instantly our camp in charge and two other policemen" at remote Daspara area at a river island, Pabna's assistant police superintendent Jamil Ahmed told PTI over phone.

He said police sub-inspector Kafiluddin and two others came under sudden attack of suspected operatives of a faction of the banned Maoist outfit Burba Banglar Communist Party (Lal Pataka) as they went to a nearby village bazaar last night to collect fuels for cooking.

"They all were unarmed as the extremists gunned them down," Ahmed said, adding an initial report saying a police informant too was killed was eventually found untrue as he was found alive later.

The motive behind the killing was not clear and incident came as security experts in recent months feared Maoist uprising in northwestern and western regions as a massive campaign was underway to uproot extreme rightwing Islamist militants, police said.

Television reports said RAB and police force have launched a massive manhunt in the area while many villagers are fleeing their homes fearing arrests or police actions.

Several ultra-left groups were operational in the region but officials and police said they just live on extortions while a policeman was killed at the same area in 2003.

"The so-called ultra-left forces are trying to reappear in western and northwestern region with new strength and the biggest worry is if they would be linked up with Indian Maoists," security analyst retired major general ANM Muniruzzaman told PTI.

Asked about political motivation of the Bangladeshi ultra left groups, he said, "Those who really belong to ultra left ideology could use these elements for their lethal force."

-PTI

Things seem to be getting more intense in Bangladesh. Note that the BBC claims 70 were killed in the PPW last year.
Also interesting how they both say that people fleed the area for fear of the police, not for fear of the Maoists, pretty careless reporting from the propaganda point of view :lol: Plus the use of 'guide' and 'police informant' as synonymous, and the fact that there are 2 completely differant narratives of why the police went there. I think the BBC's narrative is more likely; why would a bunch of unarmed police go into a Maoist-infested area to get cooking fuels ??

mosfeld
22nd July 2010, 17:25
Mods, add a South Asian forum already!

The Vegan Marxist
22nd July 2010, 18:46
^ True that. We can't just keep posting at random spots about what's going on in Southern Asia territories.

Rusty Shackleford
22nd July 2010, 19:08
Maoism seems to be the way to go in south asia. any idea if the bangladeshi maoists are tied to RIM, CPI(Maoists)< or UCPN(Maoist)? if they have links with one(which i suspect is true) then all three of these parties are part of a very well, and awesome, regional movement.

mosfeld
22nd July 2010, 21:54
They're all members of the CCOMPOSA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordination_Committee_of_Maoist_Parties_and_Organ isations_of_South_Asia) at least.

Delenda Carthago
23rd July 2010, 09:33
What countries except Nepal,India,Philipines and Bangladesh are in a middle of something in South Asia?

The Vegan Marxist
23rd July 2010, 09:47
What countries except Nepal,India,Philipines and Bangladesh are in a middle of something in South Asia?

http://redantliberationarmy.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/pakistan-hashtnagar-a-land-forgotten/

Optiow
23rd July 2010, 11:32
I would be surprised if zeenews is how it played out. I highly doubt if police would hunt extremists unarmed (and with the RAB men also?!). It makes so sense from a police point of view - being unarmed like that was asking for trouble.

mosfeld
23rd July 2010, 11:53
What countries except Nepal,India,Philipines and Bangladesh are in a middle of something in South Asia?

Pakistan has a strong peasant movement. Bhutan and Afghanistan have Maoist parties preparing for People's War. The last attack seen by the Bhutanese Maoists was blowing up a truck.

Here's (http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/interview-with-a-bhutanese-maoist-leader/) an interview with a Bhuatnese Maoist leader.

Although not Maoist, I'd like to note that there's an Tamil Nationalist/Marxist party preparing for an armed insurgency in Sri Lanka in the wake of the LTTE's defeat.

To put it bluntly, a spectre is haunting South Asia...

The Vegan Marxist
23rd July 2010, 19:01
Maoism seems to be the largest communist movement for the 21st century. I'm positive that, if Mao was still alive today, he would be extremely proud to see what all is happening. :)

scarletghoul
24th July 2010, 17:26
There's also a Maoist party in Iran, not sure what they're up to or how big they are though. And there's a low intensity PPW going on in Turkey too. So the Maoist Menace extends from Turkey to Bangladesh.. In the future perhaps we'll see the formation of a global Red Corridor

Also this is interesting-
http://www.centralchronicle.com/viewnews.asp?articleID=40809

Maoists expanding base in Sundarbans: Intelligence reports

Category » Nation (http://www.centralchronicle.com/newscategories.asp?catID=9) Posted On Wednesday, July 07, 2010United News of India
Kolkata, July 7:
After having consolidated its base in the Jangalmahal area spread over three districts, the underground Communist Party of India (Maoist) has started expanding its organisation in the Indo-Bangladesh borders of the Sundarbans to complete a safe corridor from coastal West Bengal to Chhattisgarh.
According to intelligence sources, the Maoists have already set up a number of hideout bases in Diamond Harbour and Kakdwip and some remote and isolated parts of Sundarbans by taking into confidence the local poor, living on fishing, honey collection and wood cutting.
The Maoists also set up committees in line of the Lalgarh's 'People's Committee Against Police Atrocities' in areas like Sagar islands, Kultali and Namkhana.
The sources said a part of the information about Maoist expansion to the Sundarbans came to light after the arrest of five hardcore activists of the banned outfit recently.
Madhusudan Mondal alias Narayan, who was one of those arrested, was an important functionary for the party, involved in the 'resistance' during the Nandigram upsurge. Later, he was assigned to set up bases in the Sundarbans area in South Twentyfour Parganas district, which was adjacent to Nandigram in West Midnapore district.
''The objective of spreading the network to the Sundarbans is very important for them - to build a safe corridor from coastal West Bengal to Chhattisgarh through West Midnapore and Orissa,'' the sources said.
The logistic advantage of having hideouts in the area, crisscrossed by numerous rivers and creeks, would also provide them the opprotunity to quickly escape into Bangladesh when necessary, they said.:cool:
The Bangladesh border area now. If they can take that it would be a massive boost to both the indian and bangladeshi rebels

The Vegan Marxist
24th July 2010, 23:44
These movements need to soon show some kind of "cooperation" between each other in order, when succeeded, some mutual relations can come between them. It be the largest communist coexistence since the Soviet Union.

The Vegan Marxist
24th July 2010, 23:49
I swear, if one of the Mods does not start a Southern Asia subforum, I'm going to be pissed. South Asia is the largest region with the most activity. There needs to be coverage of all this.

scarletghoul
25th July 2010, 03:32
Yeah we need one. Probably the admins haven't been looking at this thread to see our suggestions. I mean, theyve got no reason to deny a SA forum. It would clean up most of the maoist stuff on here..
maybe PM someone

The Vegan Marxist
25th July 2010, 04:06
^ I just IM'd Khad, since he's been open on these movements, on helping out in forming a subforum for the Southern Asia regions. Hopefully he'll get back to me.

this is an invasion
25th July 2010, 04:21
Dead cops are so sick


I swear, if one of the Mods does not start a Southern Asia subforum, I'm going to be pissed. South Asia is the largest region with the most activity. There needs to be coverage of all this.

I'm sure they'll bow to the will of the mighty Vegan Marxist.

t.shonku
25th July 2010, 04:35
Maoism seems to be the way to go in south asia.
You are absolutely right Maoism is infact the way to go in SE Asia bcoz oppression is at its most in SE Asia.

The Vegan Marxist
25th July 2010, 04:48
Dead cops are so sick



I'm sure they'll bow to the will of the mighty Vegan Marxist.

Seriously, if you have nothing useful to say, then stop trolling & gtfo!

Rusty Shackleford
25th July 2010, 05:05
Pakistan has a strong peasant movement. Bhutan and Afghanistan have Maoist parties preparing for People's War.


fucking GREAT news

maybe in a decade or 2 we will see the liberation of all of south asia. mao tse-tung thought is doing great deeds in asia. i dont think it will be applicable in the west but still. fucking GREAT news!:hammersickle::hammersickle::hammersickle:

The Vegan Marxist
25th July 2010, 05:09
fucking GREAT news

Yes, very great! If a Maoist revolution takes place in Afghanistan, they'll need our direct support, especially for those of us coming from the States.

t.shonku
25th July 2010, 05:21
Yes, very great! If a Maoist revolution takes place in Afghanistan, they'll need our direct support, especially for those of us coming from the States.

How excatly do you plan to do that?
Communism in India,Nepal,Bangladesh,Bhutan,Philippines is possible but in Pakistan and Afghanistan seems far fetched,bcoz these countries are Islamist

By the way does anybody here know anything about any Maoist movement in Thailand?

The Vegan Marxist
25th July 2010, 05:25
How excatly do you plan to do that?
Communism in India,Nepal,Bangladesh,Bhutan,Philippines is possible but in Pakistan and Afghanistan seems far fetched,bcoz these countries are Islamist

That has no weight on the situation at hand though. Yes, they're islamist, but given the conditions in which the people are facing today within these areas, especially on the detrimental effects from the wars being waged by the US, al Qaeda, & Taliban, there's really no organized leadership, besides those three, who give a credible, yet oppositional stance on the injustices that they face daily. If the Maoists can bring about such an organized leadership, then I have no doubt that they'll eventually grow in numbers.

t.shonku
25th July 2010, 05:33
That has no weight on the situation at hand though. Yes, they're islamist, but given the conditions in which the people are facing today within these areas, especially on the detrimental effects from the wars being waged by the US, al Qaeda, & Taliban, there's really no organized leadership, besides those three, who give a credible, yet oppositional stance on the injustices that they face daily. If the Maoists can bring about such an organized leadership, then I have no doubt that they'll eventually grow in numbers.

I agree with you somewhat.
In past there have been communist activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan(then part of India) but it was during 40s ,and these parties largely depended on support from USSR and communists from northern part of India.

But the actual fact is India is the big brother of SE Asia.If Maoists come to power in India rest will follow.It will be like a Domino effect Nepal,Bhutan,Bangladesh,Thailand,Philippines all will follow and eventually the wave will reach Afghanistan.

The Vegan Marxist
25th July 2010, 05:53
I agree with you somewhat.
In past there have been communist activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan(then part of India) but it was during 40s ,and these parties largely depended on support from USSR and communists from northern part of India.

But the actual fact is India is the big brother of SE Asia.If Maoists come to power in India rest will follow.It will be like a Domino effect Nepal,Bhutan,Bangladesh,Thailand,Philippines all will follow and eventually the wave will reach Afghanistan.

Exactly. The Naxalites are a very important movement right now.

pranabjyoti
25th July 2010, 08:54
But, the roots of feudalism is deeper in Pakistan and Afghanistan and moreover, there is the legacy of religion based fundamentalism. So, in my opinion, they will be the last in the row. What I suspect, Taliban and US will again become friends if Maoists take power in India. Probably Bin Laden will offer a bouquet of flowers to the deads of 9/11 by standing beside Mr. Bush, Clinton and Obama and will take oath to fight together against the dictatorial ideology of communism.:D:D:D:D
Remember, they are friends in the past and though enemy now, can again become that in future. Possibly, Mr. Laden will offer pray for amnesty from the families who have suffered in 9/11.:lol::laugh:

The Vegan Marxist
25th July 2010, 08:57
But, the roots of feudalism is deeper in Pakistan and Afghanistan and moreover, there is the legacy of religion based fundamentalism. So, in my opinion, they will be the last in the row. What I suspect, Taliban and US will again become friends if Maoists take power in India. Probably Bin Laden will offer a bouquet of flowers to the deads of 9/11 by standing beside Mr. Bush, Clinton and Obama and will take oath to fight together against the dictatorial ideology of communism.:D:D:D:D
Remember, they are friends in the past and though enemy now, can again become that in future. Possibly, Mr. Laden will offer pray for amnesty from the families who have suffered in 9/11.:lol::laugh:

Nah, I seriously doubt they'll *openly* become friends again. The US crowd would see this as a major betrayal, no matter what ideology one may come from. If anything, they'd start doing business together again under the table. CIA will help fund al Qaeda again. Etc. etc. But mainstream wise, I seriously doubt it.

RED DAVE
25th July 2010, 22:01
Bangladesh garment factories shut after wage protests


22 June 2010

Owners have shut all 250 garment factories at one of Bangladesh's main manufacturing zones after violent protests by workers over wages.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10375797

What, if anything, does this have to do with the Maoist movement in Bangladesh?

RED DAVE

Saorsa
25th July 2010, 23:00
What, if anything, does this have to do with the Maoist movement in Bangladesh?

What, if anything, did the Stonewall riots have to do with the various strikes for wages taking place across the USA at that time?

Directly, not a whole lot. But when seen as part of a wider struggle against *all* forms of oppression, when put in a Marxist context (something totally alien to you), the links are obvious.

Furthermore, the Maoists in Bangladesh are an underground and illegal movement still in their early stages. They very well may have support amongst sections of the garment workers. We just don't know at this point.

That won't stop you from making pompous announcements though, will it?

RED DAVE
26th July 2010, 12:54
That won't stop you from making pompous announcements though, will it?One more example of why you are untrustworthy politically. Someone asks an honest, political question, which I've been asking about the legal Nepali Maoists for more than a week now, and you call it a pompous announcement.

Face it: you're a cheerleader.

RED DAVE

Saorsa
26th July 2010, 13:13
Nah I'd say I'm more of an internationalist. Maybe you should look into the concept.

RED DAVE
26th July 2010, 15:53
Nah I'd say I'm more of an internationalist. Maybe you should look into the concept.Maybe you should buy some pom-poms. :D

Anyway, let's try to keep this a little more civil. I will.

RED DAVE

Saorsa
27th July 2010, 00:24
Anyway, let's try to keep this a little more civil. I will.

Sure. But people would be a lot more naturally civil towards you if you stopped just saying the same things in every thread, and started to engage in debate a bit more constructively and with a bit more depth to your arguments.

People are only being uncivil towards you because of how annoying you're getting.

scarletghoul
27th July 2010, 02:25
People are only being uncivil towards you because of how annoying you're getting. :laugh:
Harsh but true.

t.shonku
27th July 2010, 02:53
But, the roots of feudalism is deeper in Pakistan and Afghanistan and moreover, there is the legacy of religion based fundamentalism. So, in my opinion, they will be the last in the row. What I suspect, Taliban and US will again become friends if Maoists take power in India. Probably Bin Laden will offer a bouquet of flowers to the deads of 9/11 by standing beside Mr. Bush, Clinton and Obama and will take oath to fight together against the dictatorial ideology of communism.:D:D:D:D
Remember, they are friends in the past and though enemy now, can again become that in future. Possibly, Mr. Laden will offer pray for amnesty from the families who have suffered in 9/11.:lol::laugh:

In distant future it can become true:laugh::laugh:.After all we can't trust the religious fundamentalists bcoz all religious fundamentalists r retrads.Who knows if India becomes Maoists you may see US join hand with this same Taliban and Al-Qaida retards.You may even see Pakistan army togather with US attacking newly born Maoist India and the hindu fundamentalists like BJP helping the Pakistani army to get rid of Maoist :laugh::laugh:.Don't laugh it is possible,remember Paris commune the Perisian Aristocrats joined hand with invading Prussian forces to get rid of the proletariat of their own country France(after all for the fundamentalists their ideology is flexible their friend and foe changes from time to time)
But long before all this happen we may see the Taliban & Qaida retards destroying US military might and the US destroying them in return, after all an evil is destroyed by another evil.

Blackscare
27th July 2010, 03:17
after all we can't trust the religious fundamentalists bcoz all religious fundamentalists r retrads.


5...4...3...2...

t.shonku
27th July 2010, 06:11
5...4...3...2...

Stop talking in cryptic language like a retard.:mad:

I don't like fundamentalists like Taliban and Al-Qaida.At the same time I dislike Churches in USA that spreads anti-muslim poison,and I hate hindu fundamentalists like BJP,and also dislike those zionists.Basically I am against all sorts of religious fundamentalism.But that doesn't mean that I am anti-Arab,I support Palestine liberation movements,and I am sympathetic to Hizbullah and Hamas.

The Feral Underclass
29th July 2010, 23:35
5...4...3...2...

Please don't spam threads in this way.

scarletghoul
17th August 2010, 20:47
There have been a lot of arrests and some killings recently in the area. Yesterday a PBCP leader was killed -
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=151065

An outlawed party leader, accused in a number of cases including five for murder, was killed at Baniapukur village in Gangni upazila early yesterday. The deceased, Atiar Rahman alias Ati, 40, was the Meherpur district chief of Purbo Banglar Communist Party (PBCP-ML) faction Lal Pataka. A gang picked up Atiar at gunpoint from the house of one Rabiul Islam, took him to Pirtola field and shot him point blank at around 3:30am. He died instantly. Atiar, son of Hafiz Uddin of Baniapukur upazila, was arrested last year in a case and released on bail from jail just six months ago, police said. Police recovered the body and sent it to Meherpur Sadar General Hospital for autopsy.

Rusty Shackleford
17th August 2010, 21:36
I agree with you somewhat.
In past there have been communist activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan(then part of India) but it was during 40s ,and these parties largely depended on support from USSR and communists from northern part of India.

But the actual fact is India is the big brother of SE Asia.If Maoists come to power in India rest will follow.It will be like a Domino effect Nepal,Bhutan,Bangladesh,Thailand,Philippines all will follow and eventually the wave will reach Afghanistan.
you seem to forget that the PDPA led a revolution in afghanistan. the us support of the counterrevolution mere months later is why the region is now fucked.

Wakizashi the Bolshevik
17th August 2010, 21:45
In a nation as fucked up as Bangladesh, the rise of Maoism is excellent news indeed.

The Vegan Marxist
17th August 2010, 21:55
you seem to forget that the PDPA led a revolution in afghanistan. the us support of the counterrevolution mere months later is why the region is now fucked.

Exactly. I love reading these propaganda stories by the US supporting the claims that if the US military left Afghanistan then things like this (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EU0h9BzYYXxMHM:http://http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/image.php?image=http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/wp-content/files_flutter/1280645710Time_Afghanistan.jpg&width=600&height=400&t=1) will happen to more people. Yet, if it wasn't for the US in the first place getting involved, women wouldn't be treated like this in the first place any longer.

http://gowans.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/women%E2%80%99s-rights-in-afghanistan/