Tea Party fighting back against the racist claims against them

[incogweedo]

P1CLPhz0DHM



watch the whole thing, tell me what you guys think about this.

I have heard from quite a few people that it's not just the right wingers who are in the Tea Party, but also some center-left and far-leftists in it. Although i do not know if these claims are true, due to there being allot of people in America, it seems possible. But this video does prove that atleast not EVERYONE in the Tea Party is a racist.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

P1CLPhz0DHM



watch the whole thing, tell me what you guys think about this.

I have heard from quite a few people that it's not just the right wingers who are in the Tea Party, but also some center-left and far-leftists in it. Although i do not know if these claims are true, due to there being allot of people in America, it seems possible. But this video does prove that atleast not EVERYONE in the Tea Party is a racist.

The Tea Party is racist. I will point out from my angle that the Tea Party hates Mexicans and practically masturbate at the idea of putting more guns with the order shoot to kill along the southern border. Yeah, they have a couple token people of color and they are outnumbered in their movement by signs comparing Obama to a monkey. The part about not everyone in the Tea Party being racist is false due to the Anti-Mexican "deport them wetbacks" mentality in their platform. They also tend to have racist views towards Arabs.

[chegitz guevara]

Racism isn't just about hate. It's also about effect. When ACORN was taken down, that was a huge victory for racism, because it hurt Black and Hispanic people. Even if we were to assume that the GOP didn't do it precisely for that reason (as part of their voter suppression efforts), it would still have been racist.

Sadly, a lot of leftists are idiots, who fall for rhetoric, rather than trying to understand something in context, it's class base, it's social role, and so they take the Tea Party at face value or just dismiss it as a flash in the pan.

Plus, the presence of people of color doesn't mean a group isn't racist. Used to know a Black guy who hung around the Hammerskins in the late 80s.

[Stephen Colbert]

"Obamanomics: Monkey see, Monkey spend"

fucking guy with an infowars sign in the background... zz

[The Douche]

I'm sure there are plenty of people in the tea party movement who never use racial slurs, have friends of color, and do not consider themselves to be prejudiced.

The fact is that the politics they advocate are racist, whether they acknowledge it or not.

[Zapatas Guns]

The lady makes no sense. Since the Democrats have done nothing for your family and for your people you run to those that are actively trying to suppress your political power and who would rather that she sit on the back of the bus and undo the Civil Rights Act.

Indeed the Tea Party is about America. The racist imperialist America that exploits the poor and minorities of the 1950's. Given the power they desire they would return the U.S. to that point in time. They fear losing what the United States was founded on? That would mean they fear that the country that was founded by hypocritical racist slave owners is falling apart.

I only wish that was really true. Unraveling their nonsense in this video is an exercise in Stockholm syndrome.

[RadioRaheem84]

Right Wingers and Liberals like Bill Maher do not think that they're racist. They think that they're just "telling it how it is". They don't think of themselves as racist because they interpret the word to mean, hate.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm sure there are plenty of people in the tea party movement who never use racial slurs, have friends of color, and do not consider themselves to be prejudiced.

The funniest thing about this comment is that it totally takes for granted that everyone in the tea party movement is white.

Justifiably :lol:

[praxis1966]

Indeed the Tea Party is about America. The racist imperialist America that exploits the poor and minorities of the 1950's. Given the power they desire they would return the U.S. to that point in time. They fear losing what the United States was founded on? That would mean they fear that the country that was founded by hypocritical racist slave owners is falling apart.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not disagreeing with your assessment that they want a return to the 1950s. What I want to know is if they actually know what that means. In the 1950s, immigration laws in the US were actually a lot less restrictive than they are now and welfare was actually easier to get and had fewer strings attached. The TEA Baggers are just another proof, in my mind, that I'm right when I say most right wingers are really fucking idiots.

EDIT: Oh yeah, before I forget. So the TEA Party has black members. The Confederate Army had black soldiers. So the fuck what?

[progressive_lefty]

Right Wingers and Liberals like Bill Maher do not think that they're racist. They think that they're just "telling it how it is". They don't think of themselves as racist because they interpret the word to mean, hate.

Like Bill Maher is a Liberal, or maybe he's Liberal in the mainstream use of the word (where by which a Liberal actually isn't). He's views are obviously very persuasive, like how he thinks the Palestinians don't exist or something like that, and he has big bully mates like Netanyahu.

[redSHARP]

we can easily co-opt these jackasses. if the nazis can co-opt our lingo and symbols we can hijack theirs (teaparty) and pull a few groups towards different ends.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

My ex and I were considering showing up at their next event that we find out about with signs that say "T Party" and sing the Stonewal Girls' song

[RedSonRising]

See, my sociology professor gave a very interesting definition of racism in which he stipulated that racism has to be a tool of discrimination which actually influences forces of institutional power against those subject to racism. Prejudice, he argues, is something anyone in a group with a common identity can hold towards another, however racism is only something that exists when a dominant social group uses such prejudices in broader society to limit the freedoms or potential benefits of subjugated groups. A black person, for example, may be prejudiced against whites, however it is rare a situation will arise in which that prejudice is chosen to be implemented in a way that limits the social mobility, physical integrity, or any fact of social life. Whites as a dominant group, however, may deny things ranging from access to a party to employment, educational enrollment, or housing in a particular area.

I think this is a very valid way to look at racial power structures, and it is easy to see once applied that the Tea Party is not experiencing any harm from this faux racism they're crying about as they advocate the criminalization of a robbed workforce from a neo-colonial country and demonize the descendants of their ancestor's slaves.

[Rusty Shackleford]

You are right, the are trying to fight back against that notion that the Teabaggers are racist. To save their movement they have to try to look not-racist(not anti-racist, just not racist) (http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2005371,00.html?xid=rss-topstories)


The Tea Party activist Mark Williams has denigrated Muslims for worshiping a "monkey god" and dubbed President Obama an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief." So when the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) passed a resolution condemning "racist elements" within the Tea Party movement, his bilious response on July 15 wasn't terribly shocking. In a blog post he later described as "satire," Williams began: "Dear Mr. Lincoln, We Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!" And the screed only went downhill from there.
The surprising part about the Williams controversy has been the strife it triggered within the Tea Party movement, a tangled web of loosely affiliated groups that has mostly managed to sidestep public spats. But on July 17, as the uproar over the remarks grew, an umbrella group called the National Tea Party Federation announced it had expelled Williams' organization, the Tea Party Express, for its refusal to rebuke him. "Self-policing is the right and the responsibility of any movement or organization," federation spokesman David Webb said during an appearance on CBS News' Face the Nation. (See portraits of the Tea Party movement.) (http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1964781,00.html)
Since its inception, the Tea Party movement has struggled to shed the perception that its members' dislike of Obama is fueled by racism. Unveiling a new report on the movement's makeup on July 19, Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg noted the survey found that 39% of people outside the movement suspect its contempt for the President "may be motivated by racial feelings." Frustration over the charges of racism bubbled over in a related incident this week, when, in an act of retaliation against the NAACP, conservative activist Andrew Breitbart posted to his website a truncated tape of Shirley Sherrod, a U.S. Department of Agriculture employee, recounting her reticence to assist a white farmer. Breitbart declared it proof that "the NAACP awards racism," and Sherrod was condemned by the NAACP and fired by Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack. (The full speech turned out to be an elegant parable about transcending prejudice, and both the White House and Vislack apologized on Wednesday.) (Comment on this story.) (http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2005371,00.html#comments)
Many Tea Party leaders have disavowed the incendiary rhetoric and imagery that have surfaced at the movement's rallies, dismissing the incidents — as Webb did — as the work of the movement's "fringe." But Williams' invective, which came just days after the North Iowa Tea Party erected a billboard likening Obama to Hitler and Stalin, underscores a real organizational dilemma. The movement is bent on retaining the decentralized structure that fostered its growth, but its lack of formal leadership — and its confounding array of overlapping groups — means that when rogue members spout off, they can seem to be speaking for the movement as a whole. "Mind you, there is no tea party leadership or even a single tea party," Williams wrote on his blog in the wake of his expulsion. "There are millions of tea partiers involved in thousands of groups; every tea partier is a tea party leader." (Read about how the Tea Party may hurt GOP prospects.) (http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2003079,00.html)
The National Tea Party Federation, a small, self-appointed organization, was formed in April in response to another ugly charge — that a trio of African-American congressman, including Civil Rights luminary John Lewis, were spat on and showered with racial epithets while wading through a crowd of activists protesting the health care reform bill. Christina Botteri, a spokesman for the federation, says the group's goal was to help facilitate message discipline among the movement's scattered factions. The decision to expel the Tea Party Express, she says, was hashed out over a series of conference calls among about a half-dozen committed volunteers. This core group, which she calls an "informal steering committee," includes Webb, Richmond Tea Party president Jamie Radtke and Nationwide Tea Party Coalition Founder Michael Patrick Leahy. The vote to expel the Tea Party Express was "unanimous, but it wasn't an easy decision," says Botteri. "When people behave badly at tea party rallies, they're booed, asked to leave, ignored, shunned. This is another example of the Tea Party movement — and we are a small part of it — behaving in a way that seeks to uphold and protect the good name and reputation of the people in [it]." (See pictures of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.) (http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1976201,00.html)
The Tea Party Express, which this spring staged a nationwide bus tour replete with appearances by Sarah Palin, Andrew Breitbart and other conservative firebrands, is among the movement's most controversial subsidiaries. Thanks to its ties to the GOP, one Tea Party organizer dubbed the political action committee run by Republican strategists the "astro-turf express" — a telling slur in a movement that claims grassroots authenticity. Other Tea Party groups have long been leery of Williams' penchant for polarizing commentary, and Monday Idaho Rep. Walt Minnick, the only Democrat backed by the Tea Party Express, repudiated the endorsement. The group issued a withering statement in response to the federation's decision to expel it. "Most rank-and-file Tea Party activists think we're talking about Star Trek when we try to explain who the 'Federation' is," said Joe Wierzbicki, the group's spokesman. "Circular firing squads of groups within the Tea Party movement attacking one another accomplish nothing, and on this issue the Tea Party Federation is wrong, and has both enabled and empowered the NAACP's racist attacks."
The jab at the federation's low profile isn't necessarily an unfair characterization. The federation touts its link to about 60 local Tea Party groups and more than 20 affiliate organizations—including some of the conservative movement's leading advocacy groups, such as Americans for Prosperity, the Family Research Council and FreedomWorks. But these groups provide no money or material support to the all-volunteer federation. "What we've done has been mischaracterized as an attempt to kick this or that person out of the movement altogether," Botteri says. "We have absolutely zero authority to make that happen." Mark Lloyd, chairman of the Lynchburg, Va., Tea Party and another member of the federation's core of volunteers, says the group stakes no claim to its members' ideas. "We don't try to tell anybody what to do. We came together purely to discuss and get ourselves on the same page about how to deal with the media," he says. "Every tea party is autonomous."
Though the gesture may be largely symbolic, the bout of backbiting rankled some movement members. "In the end, we felt that we didn't have a choice," Botteri says. "We can't allow what we feel is the positive momentum of what the movement is doing by allowing ourselves to be associated with someone like Mark Williams."


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though the higher ups in that movement expelled/wanted to expell this guy. im guessing it was only because he said it publicly that he got into this predicament. I was told, and had read for my own eyes, that the pro-mehserle(fucker who killed Oscar Grant) demonstrators were explicitly told to not bring anything either bigoted or racial. this moevement is very aware of its image and will do anything to not look racist. i only saw one non-white person in that crowd of killer cop lovers. only one... of 150.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

See, my sociology professor gave a very interesting definition of racism in which he stipulated that racism has to be a tool of discrimination which actually influences forces of institutional power against those subject to racism. Prejudice, he argues, is something anyone in a group with a common identity can hold towards another, however racism is only something that exists when a dominant social group uses such prejudices in broader society to limit the freedoms or potential benefits of subjugated groups. A black person, for example, may be prejudiced against whites, however it is rare a situation will arise in which that prejudice is chosen to be implemented in a way that limits the social mobility, physical integrity, or any fact of social life. Whites as a dominant group, however, may deny things ranging from access to a party to employment, educational enrollment, or housing in a particular area.

I think this is a very valid way to look at racial power structures, and it is easy to see once applied that the Tea Party is not experiencing any harm from this faux racism they're crying about as they advocate the criminalization of a robbed workforce from a neo-colonial country and demonize the descendants of their ancestor's slaves.

The Nazis were racist when they were in power, right? Were they not racist before they gained power? Does someone become racist only when they hold a political seat?