Mayar Guarda getting banned?

[Delenda Carthago]

What's the deal?Are they gonna get banned from the Hungarian state?What are the left forces say about it?

[AK]

As a member of the Hungarian diaspora, this news is of special significance to me :lol:

http://www.politics.hu/20100716/orban-promises-to-crack-down-on-magyar-garda

Orbán promises to crack down on Magyar Gárda

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán yesterday vowed to ban the Magyar Gárda movement after he met with Jobbik party MPs.

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Orbán said “just as the theft of hens will not be unpunished, we cannot tolerate paramilitary groups wanting to do justice outside the law, or that MPs ignore Hungarian courts and their rulings. As for me, I will not give my assent for us to march out of civilisation”.

Referring to the Gárda’s ongoing activity despite a ban by the courts, Orbán said “I will not rest until a law is passed that unequivocally excludes the possibility of the 'hide and seek' that we now experience”.

“It is not simply the Gárda as a paramilitary group, which in itself is a serious problem, that is at stake, but the mentality that is behind it,” Orbán said.

Declaring that he considers democracy and the rule of law to be fundamental values, Orbán said he is ready to seek confrontation with any party that does not think that way.

Jobbik chairman Gábor Vona said the purpose of his party is to 'decriminalise' the issue of the Gárda, so that they may avail themselves of their political rights, but Orbán showed no readiness to accept that idea.

Vona warned that the Gárda will cause a major conflict in the coming years between his party and the governing forces.

On other matters, Jobbik found unacceptable Orbán's statement that Hungary's policy toward Israel agrees with that of the EU.

Fidesz and Jobbik found something to agree on, as both parties said demographics are a top priority, and that people should be encouraged to have children because of Hungary’s dwindling population.

Orbán was accompanied to the meeting by his spokesman Péter Szijjártó and Prime Minister’s Office state secretary Mihály Varga.

[Delenda Carthago]

You understand how big loss is that for the movement,when the state fights the fascists and the Left is just claping?

[AK]

You understand how big loss is that for the movement,when the state fights the fascists and the Left is just claping?
What else am I meant to be doing? Because from what I read, the Magyar Garda was just banned - maybe one of the last progressive acts of the Bourgeoisie (although I do know this was just to make sure that the Hungarian ruling class held onto it's monopoly of power). And since I can't do anything personally (considering I'm in Australia (read: not Hungary)), I can't imagine what I could do but clap.

[Delenda Carthago]

What else am I meant to be doing? Because from what I read, the Magyar Garda was just banned - maybe one of the last progressive acts of the Bourgeoisie (although I do know this was just to make sure that the Hungarian ruling class held onto it's monopoly of power). And since I can't do anything personally (considering I'm in Australia (read: not Hungary)), I can't imagine what I could do but clap.
Not talking about you silly.I m talking about the Hungarian revolutionary forces.

[Glenn Beck]

Not talking about you silly.I m talking about the Hungarian revolutionary forces.

The fact that the government is banning them and not using them says it all about how weak the left in Hungary must be.

[Sam_b]

You understand how big loss is that for the movement,when the state fights the fascists and the Left is just claping?

I do kind of agree, but as Glenn Beck says, the revolutionary movement in Hungary is particularly slight compared with other countries. I believe it was Atilla Agh who wrote a paper on contemporary Hungarian electoral politics, which in fact carries a lot of information of the collapse of any left praxist movement in Hungary - I can try and look it up for you if interested.

[Delenda Carthago]

I do kind of agree, but as Glenn Beck says, the revolutionary movement in Hungary is particularly slight compared with other countries. I believe it was Atilla Agh who wrote a paper on contemporary Hungarian electoral politics, which in fact carries a lot of information of the collapse of any left praxist movement in Hungary - I can try and look it up for you if interested.
yes please,that would be great!

[redSHARP]

i would also like some back ground on the left in Hungry and this right wing party. thank you in advance!

[Sam_b]

I'll have a look for the article tonight. I've got a hard copy somewhere.

Edit: It's actually a Racz article. Mostly geared towards the sense of 'left' as left-reformism and the Hungarian socialist party, which is a force very similar I would suggest to the Labour Party in Britain eg a leftist presence below but pretty sparse). There are a couple of parties such as the Workers Party of Hungary 2006 and the Hungarian Communist Workers Party but these are characterised by low membership and no real street presence. The HCWP is essentially those in the Hungarian Socialist Workers Party that rejected the move to the more 'accessable' electoral form of the MSZP (similar to the ex-communists in Poland who moved to the Democratic Left Alliance etc).

Unfortunately I'm not at uni while writing this and don't have a copy saved, but if you have a Jstor sign-in the article is at http://www.jstor.org/pss/3594571