Fight against Fascism?

[Catillina]

If a war, similar to the Spanish Civil War, were to break out in a foreign country, would you travel to it, to participate?

(It's theoretical, so you don't have to implicate that you are a familiy father, and therefore you have responsibilities, so you can't take part in this war, or similar reasons)

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

If there was a desperate need for comrades to go and fight against forces I would offer my support. I'd also expect the same if a similar situation arrived in my own country.

[Stand Your Ground]

I'm small, nervous in dangerous situations and very clumsy, I would probably do more damage than help lol. But I still would like to.

[elliebean]

I would not be physically able to travel at a moment's notice, let alone fight effectively (sometimes I can barely stand up without passing out), but since it's hypothetical I said yes.

Then again, my girlfriend and I once antagonized a carload of white supremacists with a broken off car antenna, just for being there and displaying their stupid lightning bolts in public, only days after I had been hospitalized for a week for a sudden cardiac arrest, which had temporarily killed me and put me in a coma for 20 hours. I was still heavily medicated and had fresh surgery scars and a cracked sternum at the time. Predictably, they acted all tough and shouted and flashed gang symbols as they backed off and then ran away. :lol: I haven't seen any nazi symbols in my neighborhood since. :cool:

So, given my brazenness, maybe I would do alright in armed combat, in spite of my limitations.





As long as I'd be supplied with lots of heavy pain medication.



And my girlfriend. ;)



ETA: This is not behavior I advocate in any way; it just happened that my girlfriend, who admittedly has a bit of a pcychotic streak from years of unspeakable abuse, was in one of her violent moods and I jokingly told her "no attacking anyone unless they're obvious fascists", which she took literally. She started going after them and I was too mentally out of it to resist going along.

[Delenda Carthago]

I d join a civil war(or a pogrom) against Disney groups fans.Anytime,anywhere.

Hasta la victoria siempre.

[Uppercut]

It's tough to say. If a civil war broke out in a foreign country, I'd be hesitant to go. I'm kind of indecisive when it comes to making decisions such as these, especially if there are lives on the line. From my individual standpoint, I would like to stay here and get an education before I go out with a rifle and start shooting up fascists. But from a collectivist standpoint, it's every leftists' duty to fight for the betterment of humanity. I'm still young (19 to be exact) and I have a lot of life ahead of me, but if I'm going to die, it might as well be done fighting for a better future.

[Imposter Marxist]

I'd quit my job, say goodbye to my friends and family, and tell a girl I love her. Then i'd be off the next day. Shame on the revolutionaries who would not.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

There already are wars similar to the Spanish Civil War going on in foreign countries. I don't see you guys moving to India, Nepal, Columbia, Mexico, Palestine, or anywhere else where there has been significant armed struggles against capitalism.

[this is an invasion]

I would not.

[∞]

Why would anyone here want to be in the Legion Condor? Unless they just answered that for teh lulz.

[Monkey Riding Dragon]

I pick "other" because the Spanish Civil War isn't exactly what I consider an ideal model for us to follow. I've raised before the real possibility of a similar civil war actually breaking out at some point right here in the United States, so there wouldn't necessarily be a "travel" requirement for me, regardless. But more fundamentally, I think the important thing here is that a revolutionary option be available in such a context, not just a reactionary "united front against fascism" such as the Spanish Communists took up in the Spanish Civil War context. This line resulted in the active suppression of real revolutionary risings that were spontaneously begun. These should have been the forces you united with and established the leadership of such as to provide these tendencies with the real vision and direction they required to succeed, not ones you conspired with the enemy against in the name of stopping fascist forces. Only a revolutionary people can plausibly defeat an on-the-march fascist force anyway.

[Comrade Gwydion]

Why would anyone here want to be in the Legion Condor? Unless they just answered that for teh lulz.

You just Ninja'd me in mentioning that the Condor Legion option just begged for abuse:rolleyes:

[Nolan]

There already are wars similar to the Spanish Civil War going on in foreign countries. I don't see you guys moving to India, Nepal, Columbia, Mexico, Palestine, or anywhere else where there has been significant armed struggles against capitalism.

Well, see, those aren't overly romanticized conflicts where most on this forum could see themselves marching happily wearing red and black hats while singing A Las Barricadas. Those are real wars of liberation. Thanks to the bourgeois media, we can get at least a propagandized glimpse of what war against the state is - a meat grinder where innocents die as well as combatants and you don't always have the support of the entire population. It's not really something I'd want to experience if I don't absolutely have to.

[ChrisK]

I picked other. I would send monetary/other aid if I could afford too.

[chegitz guevara]

There already are wars similar to the Spanish Civil War going on in foreign countries. I don't see you guys moving to India, Nepal, Columbia, Mexico, Palestine, or anywhere else where there has been significant armed struggles against capitalism.

The Spanish Civil War is different, and not in the way Cptn Cuba described. In Spain, the Republic was attacked by its own military, by fascism, and the masses rose up to defend it. The people who went to fight in the struggle weren't going to make the revolution, but to fight the fascist tide.

[Crvena-Zastava]

The best way to die would be to die for the cause, so I probably would go and fight.

Also, wouldn't be bad to ambush some Fascist piglets too.

[chegitz guevara]

No, the best way to die is of old age, surrounded by family and friends, in a socialist hospital that was created after we won the revolution.

[Adil3tr]

There already are wars similar to the Spanish Civil War going on in foreign countries. I don't see you guys moving to India, Nepal, Columbia, Mexico, Palestine, or anywhere else where there has been significant armed struggles against capitalism.

Thats completely different, but you may have a point. Right wing coups don't usually result in a drawn out war

[MRCS]

Probably. Depends on the situation though.

[stella2010]

OTHER....kill as many cops as possible. keep going until you reach the army and take all their equipment over and make sure to seize a destroyer or battleship. just kill as maNY s possible and burn as much to the ground as possible as well. No one has ever defeated this method.

SCORCH

;)

[Ovi]

No, the best way to die is of old age, surrounded by family and friends, in a socialist hospital that was created after we won the revolution.
Yes, let's hope someone else will fight the reactionaries so we can die of old age, surrounded by family and friends, in a socialist hospital.

[Rusty Shackleford]

All men must die, but death can vary in its significance. The ancient Chinese writer Szuma Chien said, 'Though death befalls all men alike, it may be weithier than Mount Tai or lighter than a feater.' to die for the people is weightier than Mount Tai, but to work or the fascists and die for the exploiters and oppressors is lighter than a feather.

With that in mind it is certainly better to fight and die for the people. Even then id still give it a few weeks thought. I can think i could be a badass with a gun, but i could also end up dying by being a fool who thought he could be a badass with a gun. Its a very serious endeavor.

Im not against it, but if it turns into that sectarian shitstorm like in Spain, i dont want any part of it.

I dunno. its a tough choice. Id probably end up organizing a group of people to go if i decided to.

Theres also revolution to be had in the US.

[Who?]

I'd fight against fascism... granted that by that time I have an undergraduate degree.

If I was still in school I'd probably support the cause financially.

[Raúl Duke]

I doubt I would go...

IDK, but likely not.

It depends

Also, I doubt most who say "yea I'm going" will.

[Magón]

There already are wars similar to the Spanish Civil War going on in foreign countries. I don't see you guys moving to India, Nepal, Columbia, Mexico, Palestine, or anywhere else where there has been significant armed struggles against capitalism.

Well first, Mexico isn't a struggle against Capitalism. It's one Capitalist group fighting another for control of the "Green Stuff". The Zapatista's aren't at all in armed conflict with the Drug Cartels or the Mexican Government, like the Drug Cartels and Mexican Government are against each other. They learned that the hard way, and now speak with the people, which is hard because the Mexican people aren't really content with any form of government and just want to be left alone really.

Second, if it was something like the Spanish Civil War, I'd be all for it. I'd support an Anarchist/Socialist Trade Union in armed struggle like the CNT-FAI, UGT, POUM, etc. were against Franco and his Goons. There might be a language barrier depending on the country, but anywhere that speaks English and Spanish I can handle just fine. For the others, I'd definitely have broken [insert language here], but I'd probably join a Brigade or something else that spoke English/Spanish, like the many International Brigades in the Spanish Civil War. Then there wouldn't be such a problem fighting and communicating.