El Rojo
11th July 2010, 18:34
Raoul Moat, Britainīs "most wanted criminal" shot himself in the head following a six hour standoff with the police. Acording to a Guardian report.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/10/raoul-moat-taser-investigation-standoff (which, incidently has a very illuminating ilustration as a few policemen with fingers on triggers)
Moat shot himself after two tasers were fired at him. He was then taken to hospital and pronounced dead. Acording again to the Guardian, Moat spent the entire time lying on the ground pointing his weapon at his own head.
Moat had evaded the police for days despite a massive policing operation, and had left messages threatening the police and the public.
Ok, there are what are most likely the facts. Now for some conjecture / raving. That image ive link is very telling. We have what i think i can safely describe as angry men no.2, foaming at the mouth and pointing a live weapon, with thier finger on the trigger, at a person. I have handled weapons extensively, and you NEVER place your finger on the trigger until you are about to actually shoot something. So either this picture was taken right after Moat shot himself (unlikely as surely the cameraman would be looking at Moat) or we have trigger happy policemen.
My main point, why was he tasered twice? Yes he had killed and was armed, but what with the lying on the ground point a weapon at his own head bit, id he they had no reason to shoot him until he pointed the weapon at the police. A taser, although called a non leathal weapon, fires a 50,000 volt charge, has been known to kill people, has caused over 300 deaths and also causes muscle spasms.
the police fired a high power electrical weapon at a man pointing a gun at his own head. is it a stretch to call that murder?
OK, i feel like im rambling. What im getting at is that a) our police forces are equally violent as the possible psycopath and b) used unacceptable tactics
they are increasingly using tasers in situations that do not justify them and are also increasingly acting like the jackbooted security forces of a 1984 esq dystopia. According to our own Hannah Kay, the police violently raided a disabled manīs home, one Mr Tingay of Huddersfield and with dogs and armed officers "tearing the place apart", despite "amazingly admitting that they had absolutely no suspicion, intelligence, or evidence that Mr Moat could have been hiding there"
In no way do I condone the actions of Moat, however, the police response seems beyond unjust. What are your thoughts?
sources: above Guardian article
http://rebelcleaners.blogspot.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/10/raoul-moat-taser-investigation-standoff (which, incidently has a very illuminating ilustration as a few policemen with fingers on triggers)
Moat shot himself after two tasers were fired at him. He was then taken to hospital and pronounced dead. Acording again to the Guardian, Moat spent the entire time lying on the ground pointing his weapon at his own head.
Moat had evaded the police for days despite a massive policing operation, and had left messages threatening the police and the public.
Ok, there are what are most likely the facts. Now for some conjecture / raving. That image ive link is very telling. We have what i think i can safely describe as angry men no.2, foaming at the mouth and pointing a live weapon, with thier finger on the trigger, at a person. I have handled weapons extensively, and you NEVER place your finger on the trigger until you are about to actually shoot something. So either this picture was taken right after Moat shot himself (unlikely as surely the cameraman would be looking at Moat) or we have trigger happy policemen.
My main point, why was he tasered twice? Yes he had killed and was armed, but what with the lying on the ground point a weapon at his own head bit, id he they had no reason to shoot him until he pointed the weapon at the police. A taser, although called a non leathal weapon, fires a 50,000 volt charge, has been known to kill people, has caused over 300 deaths and also causes muscle spasms.
the police fired a high power electrical weapon at a man pointing a gun at his own head. is it a stretch to call that murder?
OK, i feel like im rambling. What im getting at is that a) our police forces are equally violent as the possible psycopath and b) used unacceptable tactics
they are increasingly using tasers in situations that do not justify them and are also increasingly acting like the jackbooted security forces of a 1984 esq dystopia. According to our own Hannah Kay, the police violently raided a disabled manīs home, one Mr Tingay of Huddersfield and with dogs and armed officers "tearing the place apart", despite "amazingly admitting that they had absolutely no suspicion, intelligence, or evidence that Mr Moat could have been hiding there"
In no way do I condone the actions of Moat, however, the police response seems beyond unjust. What are your thoughts?
sources: above Guardian article
http://rebelcleaners.blogspot.com/