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The Idler
8th July 2010, 13:51
Press Association are reporting David Cameron's call for a people power revolution in the UK (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hH93QFHipuRbKXQa8CJ9NsyuYfCg)

Hit The North
8th July 2010, 14:13
Empty rhetoric used as a cover for slashing public spending. The up-shot is that money will be diverted from public services to the private and voluntary sector. "People power" will be an ideological prop in the Tory struggle to break up the public sector unions.

Leonid Brozhnev
8th July 2010, 14:21
What Bob said. Anything that comes from Camoron's noise hole can be simply translated into 'Screw the poor'.

ed miliband
8th July 2010, 14:23
While it's obviously empty rhetoric and it's particularly insulting considering "people power" will be used against people in the form of massive spending cuts and harsh anti-union laws, I also think it's important we play close attention to the liberal response to Cameron's rhetoric. When his 'Big Society' scheme was announced, there were commentary pieces in the Guardian saying that a) people aren't interested in having more control over their lives, and b) people can't be trusted to have more control over their lives. It's our role to debunk both sides.

RebelDog
8th July 2010, 15:54
Pure double-speak. They are going to make hundreds of thousands of people redundant and hold the door open for private companies to ransack public services. The private sector in control of public services is akin to Dracula in control of the bloodbank, and I think the vast majority of the public understands the danger.

Aesop
8th July 2010, 16:24
Reminds me for the conservative slogans on posters around my area, which stated 'big government' bad, 'big society' good.

Which essentially means gets get rid of the public services and leave it to the church of England/charities and rich people who want to feel good about themselves to help people through this recession.

The Idler
8th July 2010, 20:05
What struck me was just how rightist's rhetoric is using increasingly leftist language. It would be funny if there was a people power revolution in the UK, Cameron might even look hypocritical trying to condemn it.

Widerstand
8th July 2010, 20:20
In drawing a clear line between government and society, aren't they just telling everyone that the current "democracy" is but a farce? The government in welfare states is supposed to be an instrument of society, to organize and guarantee aid is delivered where necessary - of course it never truly did that, and we know that the greater motive was calming the people and preventing uprisings (at least Bismarck's). This is clearly saying that the government should be less. Less what? Less welfare more repressive? Most likely, as this is what meets economy's demands the most, and stimulating economic growth, currently, seems to be every state's raison d'ętre.

What's with right wing guys and stealing left rhetoric/symbolism though? Appears to be somewhat of a late trend.

Adi Shankara
8th July 2010, 20:55
Press Association are reporting David Cameron's call for a people power revolution in the UK (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hH93QFHipuRbKXQa8CJ9NsyuYfCg)

Lets see...a Free Market fundamentalist, anti-immigrant, pro-monarchy/nobility, pro-colonialist is talking of "people power" and people believe it?

what the hell...and the British love saying Americans are stupid... :confused:

Adi Shankara
8th July 2010, 20:59
Reminds me for the conservative slogans on posters around my area, which stated 'big government' bad, 'big society' good.

Which essentially means gets get rid of the public services and leave it to the church of England/charities and rich people who want to feel good about themselves to help people through this recession.

there is nothing more unreliable than having to rely on a 3rd party charity that has no consequence if it denies you a service, since it's not obligated to provide anything in the 1st place.

but see, conservatives never think of that. they only think of their own demographics. fuck them all I say.

scarletghoul
8th July 2010, 21:05
Truly a great man. The people's PM. Comrade Cameron is carrying on the legacy of the Black Panthers in word as well as deed. I am honestly disgusted at the sectarian remarks posted in this thread, just because this revolution isn't an exact copy of October 1917. You should all grow up and stop being so ultra-leftist; there's a revolution happening and any true Marxist will recognise this and give it his full support

Adi Shankara
8th July 2010, 21:15
Truly a great man. The people's PM. Comrade Cameron is carrying on the legacy of the Black Panthers in word as well as deed. I am honestly disgusted at the sectarian remarks posted in this thread, just because this revolution isn't an exact copy of October 1917. You should all grow up and stop being so ultra-leftist; there's a revolution happening and any true Marxist will recognise this and give it his full support

everyone knows that REAL Marxists believe in free markets and think that, if people are rich, the poor are probably just lazy and don't deserve wealth :rolleyes:

Sam_b
8th July 2010, 21:22
what the hell...and the British love saying Americans are stupid...

I don't know about you, but this rhetoric and 'action' to continue slashing up the public sector under the guise of transparency and democracy; politically shifting gears; is a very clever move by Cameron.

The Idler
8th July 2010, 22:22
If a "People Power Revolution" is considered a popular strategy, isn't there a massive opportunity, an open goal if you like, for the revolutionary left? Tory Party conference is 3 October and the SWP will be there.

Widerstand
8th July 2010, 22:28
If a "People Power Revolution" is considered a popular strategy, isn't there a massive opportunity, an open goal if you like, for the revolutionary left? Tory Party conference is 3 October and the SWP will be there.

But won't people just think you're right wing? That's what to some extent happened in Germany, when Neo-Nazis started adopting pro-Palestine aesthetics.

Though there of course is a chance it will work.

El Rojo
8th July 2010, 22:33
this as Boris rushes to clear out the democracy village in parliament square? doublespeak of the highest quality.

scarletghoul
9th July 2010, 00:26
If a "People Power Revolution" is considered a popular strategy, isn't there a massive opportunity, an open goal if you like, for the revolutionary left? Tory Party conference is 3 October and the SWP will be there.
Wait what, the SWP is really gonna try entryism with the Conservative party ?? should have guessed tbh

RebelDog
9th July 2010, 07:38
There is a website where public workers can make suggestions on where the cuts should be made. Kind of like deciding on your own execution. P.M. David Cameron says:


<li id="text-3" class="widget widget_text"> The Prime Minister says;
“Don’t hold back. Be innovative, be radical, challenge the way things are done. If you think you can make things better for less money don’t just complain to your colleagues about it – tell us about it so we can make it happen “





I have a suggestion. Fuck off back to Eton.