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Nolan
7th July 2010, 06:26
What genuinely revolutionary organizations are working in Russia today? I know the main communist party is a revisionist, social democrat nationalist circle-jerk, as are a lot of the smaller parties.

Input from anyone actually in Russia is most valuable.

Rusty Shackleford
7th July 2010, 06:44
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard_of_Red_Youth

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Akmbanner.PNG


Vanguard of Red Youth (Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language): Авангард красной молодёжи or Avangard Krasnoi Molodyozhi (AKM)), is a radical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalization) Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist) youth group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_group). Its website describes it as an "independent youth organization, entering the all-Russian public political motion." Its "territory of action" is Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia), which it insists is still the heart and soul of "the republic of the USSR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR)." The AKM's ideology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology) is Marxism-Leninism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism-Leninism).i dont know how popular they are, and i dont know much of their politics outside of this article.
did a youtube search.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNRfn5UMlRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zqQr7AqJRI&feature=related

Revolutionair
7th July 2010, 07:08
As far as I know, Russia is being dominated by fascists. The communist party gets most of its votes from old people who want to get back to the good old times.
That's just what I've heard.

Adi Shankara
7th July 2010, 09:40
As far as I know, Russia is being dominated by fascists. The communist party gets most of its votes from old people who want to get back to the good old times.
That's just what I've heard.

If you read Russian language news, it seems Russia is dominated by fascists and self-hating neo-nazis; But the truth is, Russia isn't dominated by fascists--I'd just say that most people seem to know less about Russian leftists and antifa because they aren't committing disgustingly coward attacks against elderly immigrants, or raping then murdering 9 year old Kazakh girls--there is no doubt, the Antifa Russians are the more moral of the two...and since when has morailty and righteousness sold papers? :rolleyes: http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies/001_rolleyes.gif

my personal opinion: Russian society is pretty diametrically split down the middle--and Russian antifa are just as violent as the skinheads, dont' get me wrong--but the difference is they aren't using it to attack innocent people. they only attack known fascists and racists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WMa1vk9lzo

I love this video. you can get that skinhead most likely never sieg heils strangers ever again! I hope the little suka lives in fear for the rest of his life of antifa--Russian "National socialists" are fucking animals, they aren't worthy of life.

Even though I certainly am not condoning it or advising or telling anyone to do something like this, I certainly and admittingly, would take pleasure in seeing a beheading done to a neonazi at the hands of antifa like the way the russian "nazis" did this to an immigrant not to long ago.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86e_1219867386&comment_order=newest_first --"Brave" neo-nazi beats on a woman half his size



http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/14896_skinheads.html --Group of gov'no Russian skinheads get their asses handed to them by two Asian men

http://www.justfightvideos.com/fightvideos/33784/Russian_skinheads_get_beatdown.htm --Russian Skinhead doesn't like his own game used against him, curls into a ball and covers his head like a little shitpig


Four skinheads were wounded as a result of the fight. The men were hospitalized to Sklifosofsky Institute with stab wounds, the Moscow ER Center said. The police also detained all other members of the fight.:D:D:D:D

thälmann
7th July 2010, 13:23
the problem in russia is also, that the fascist "national bolsheviks" are tolerated in the whole communist left. the AKM for example works with them, and they are at 1 may demontrations and so on..i really dont know why

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
7th July 2010, 13:28
the problem in russia is also, that the fascist "national bolsheviks" are tolerated in the whole communist left. the AKM for example works with them, and they are at 1 may demontrations and so on..i really dont know why

There have been numerous threads about this - it really isn't as easy as them being "fascists".

Die Neue Zeit
7th July 2010, 14:37
The biggest left party that isn't a "bourgeois workers party" is the Russian Communist Workers' Party – Revolutionary Party of Communists.

Spirit of Spartacus
7th July 2010, 14:51
The Communist Party of the Russian Federation (KPRF) is a mass organization which has a tradition of struggle. To slander it by calling it "revisionist" and "nationalist" and by describing its work as "circle-jerking" is completely counter-productive.

Does anyone here have a proper critique of them, given the concrete conditions in Russia today?

Nolan
7th July 2010, 15:49
The Communist Party of the Russian Federation (KPRF) is a mass organization which has a tradition of struggle. To slander it by calling it "revisionist" and "nationalist" and by describing its work as "circle-jerking" is completely counter-productive.

Does anyone here have a proper critique of them, given the concrete conditions in Russia today?

I don't think I have to explain why the CPRF will not be a legitimate party until the door hits Zyuganov on the way out.

Uppercut
7th July 2010, 16:03
As I understand it, the KPRF allies itself with the communist party of china, and is only pushing for select nationalization of certain resources. I guess they're more of a radical social-democratic party than a true Marxist-Leninist communist party.

Stalin would be sooo pissed.:mad:

Nolan
7th July 2010, 16:32
The biggest left party that isn't a "bourgeois workers party" is the Russian Communist Workers' Party – Revolutionary Party of Communists.

From what I read, this is the only really revolutionary party. Most of the other ones worship the USSR under Gorbachev or cater to ultra-nationalism.

pranabjyoti
7th July 2010, 16:41
Well, I want to know what is the stance of this left groups regarding the ongoing armed struggle going on in part of the world. Whether they support it or oppose it in the name of "peaceful, democratic way"? To me, it's the main dividing line between being real leftist or not.

vyborg
7th July 2010, 22:45
The biggest left party that isn't a "bourgeois workers party" is the Russian Communist Workers' Party – Revolutionary Party of Communists.

how big is it? does it have significant union work?

Wakizashi the Bolshevik
8th July 2010, 10:39
I am a anti-revisionist, but I have to say I disagree for the most part with the accusations made towards the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. On meetings and international conferences organised by my party, the Workers' Party of Belgium, I so far only met comrades from the Russian Communist Workers' Party - Revolutionary Party of Communists, since the CPRF is labelled revisionist.
This I deplore, since the CPRF is a mass organisation capable of mobilizing hundreds of thousands of Proletarians for their cause. The division between the CPRF and the RCWP-RPC is in my opinion unnecessary and harmful to the cause of Communism.
As far as I know, the CPRF is opposed to the ideas of Kruschchev (= revisionism) and supports Lenin's and Stalin's ideas and actions.
Therefore I hope the CPRF and the RCWP-RPC can cooperate in the future in a Communist unity front against the fascists and the capitalist opressors.

Die Neue Zeit
8th July 2010, 14:20
They already do cooperate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Communist_Workers'_Party_%E2%80%93_Revolut ionary_Party_of_Communists


The RCWP-RPC considers the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF) to be reformist but in occasion of the 2003 Duma Election the Party leaders decided to make an agreement with the CPRF in order not to disperse the communist vote.