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DaComm
6th July 2010, 04:02
Have you guys ever had your own ideology that you made up? If so, describe them, and please explain why you disbanded them.

Stephen Colbert
6th July 2010, 04:52
I was a committed Zennist in my first year of college after having a very interesting encounter with a Buddhist teacher. And for a GREAT while I was positive that I was

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_anarchism

And a lot of this philosophy I draw on when I look at how power structures function and I look at more existentialist theory. Anywho it took about a year until I stopped being a Zennist because I realized that it was insanely nihilistic.

Having watched Wal-Mart destroy my hometown, Vector Marketing Corporation literally exploit me and then not pay me, and obtain significant class conscious upon reading Howard Zinn.... push came to shove and I am radicalizing ever since :P

Blake's Baby
6th July 2010, 12:31
A couple of friends and I formed an 'anarchist' group when I was a teenager. We were pretty confused, we knew we rejected terrorism, were more-or-less class struggle anarchists (except one guy that had a more Tolstoyan attitude to 'self realization' and stuff), and we were slightly influenced by situationism, but it was a bit of a mish-mash that didn't really make much sense.

We did, in an act of extremely vanguardist hubris (bloody 'propaganda by deed'), 'declare' a revolution though.

But we were drunk teenagers, what can you do?

AK
6th July 2010, 14:20
Council Trotskyism. Never again.

Edit: Scary thing is, this wasn't that long ago at all. In the meantime, you can feast your eyes on the terribly photoshopped symbol of Council Trotskyism:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/AlphaKappa95/council-trotskyiststar.png

Bitter Ashes
8th July 2010, 13:25
We all have different things that appeal to us and our friends. Where does a personal opinion end and an ideoligy begin? Probably not worth thinking about it too much, unless you're talking about making a consitiution that is going against some kind of existing constitition, which is just silly really. What's important is that you work with your fellow workers.

Leonid Brozhnev
8th July 2010, 13:42
I was some kind of fucked up Commie Nationalist back about 7-8 years ago... I found some old books from High School a few months ago where I'd drawn up plans and some other embarrassing stuff. But you always have these idiotic fantasies when you're growing up.

AK
8th July 2010, 14:01
I was some kind of fucked up Commie Nationalist back about 7-8 years ago... I found some old books from High School a few months ago where I'd drawn up plans and some other embarrassing stuff. But you always have these idiotic fantasies when you're growing up.
Oh god, you remind me of Mr.Canada.

Leonid Brozhnev
8th July 2010, 16:01
I may have in 02-03, but it was out of ignorance and stupidity. Nowadays, I can't stand nationalism, it pisses me off.

Widerstand
8th July 2010, 16:56
I was a committed Zennist in my first year of college after having a very interesting encounter with a Buddhist teacher. And for a GREAT while I was positive that I was

And a lot of this philosophy I draw on when I look at how power structures function and I look at more existentialist theory. Anywho it took about a year until I stopped being a Zennist because I realized that it was insanely nihilistic.

Having watched Wal-Mart destroy my hometown, Vector Marketing Corporation literally exploit me and then not pay me, and obtain significant class conscious upon reading Howard Zinn.... push came to shove and I am radicalizing ever since :P

That's sad to hear. I consider myself both Anarchist and Buddhist, primarily in Zen "tradition". As far as Zen practice goes, well I meditate regularly, that's about it though. What did you find so nihilistic about being a Zennist?

The Red Next Door
8th July 2010, 17:01
I was a social Radical democract liberal anarcho

Raúl Duke
8th July 2010, 17:06
Vector Marketing Corporation

That scam company is all over the place, particularly preying on students.

Os Cangaceiros
8th July 2010, 17:08
Anarcho-Satanism.

People's War
8th July 2010, 21:09
Zionist communism

Zanthorus
8th July 2010, 21:23
Zionist communism

Sadly that's not as original as it should be (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Germans_(political_current)&oldid=372264687) :(

Widerstand
8th July 2010, 21:29
Sadly that's not as original as it should be :(

Anti-Germans deserve applause on their free association skills for managing to link Israel and America to Anti-Fascism and themselves to the political left.

scarletghoul
8th July 2010, 21:31
I am a Dialectical Satanist, which is my own cool original term for stalino-goth

revolution inaction
8th July 2010, 22:28
i started to make up a political theory that involved gradually taking over by forming cooperatives and community councils, and a system of labour time vouchers.
But I couldn't resolve the problems with the system so i decided to find out what ideas for replacing capitalism other people had come up with, so i researched communism and then anarchism, and it was obviously much better.

AK
9th July 2010, 00:02
Sadly that's not as original as it should be (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Germans_%28political_current%29&oldid=372264687) :(
Malte :sleep:

Barry Lyndon
9th July 2010, 06:51
Jeffersonian Trotskyism. In retrospect, its rather embarrassing.

More Fire for the People
9th July 2010, 06:59
If Huey P, Marx, Debs, Dewey (Decimal), Alexandra Kollontai, Salvador Allende, Althusser, Richard Rorty, and Linda Sanchez had a lot of hot sex and then discussed politics afterwards. (while smoking)

Chambered Word
9th July 2010, 16:31
If Huey P, Marx, Debs, Dewey (Decimal), Alexandra Kollontai, Salvador Allende, Althusser, Richard Rorty, and Linda Sanchez had a lot of hot sex and then discussed politics afterwards. (while smoking)

Fucking surreal. :blink:

StoneFrog
9th July 2010, 16:42
I did, then i realized it was considered Council Communism.

The Red Next Door
9th July 2010, 17:09
Fucking surreal. :blink:

i have a idea for a drawing :D

tracher999
9th July 2010, 18:10
i always be a hard rebel i hate politics cops en al that fucking mr s by the book i do just my thing i live with my one rules en chozen friends:)

DaComm
9th July 2010, 19:48
i always be a hard rebel i hate politics cops en al that fucking mr s by the book i do just my thing i live with my one rules en chozen friends:)


Elaborate.

Kuppo Shakur
10th July 2010, 00:00
i always be a hard rebel i hate politics cops en al that fucking mr s by the book i do just my thing i live with my one rules en chozen friends:)
Damn, you hard.

As for an original ideology, I have created several. The only viable ones, however, are Martianism, Nihilistic Rationalism, and "Rapid-Revolutionary" Leftism.

I am currently a Rapid-Revolutionary Leftist.

AK
10th July 2010, 00:52
And what is rapid-revolutionism?

Kuppo Shakur
10th July 2010, 02:33
And what is rapid-revolutionism?
The basic idea is inspired by Rapid Application Development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_application_development), a software development style, especially popular among indie game devs.
As the ideology now stands, it is more focused on quantity of revolutions, rather than quality. I guess it can also be described as "Trial and Error" Revolutionary Leftism.
For example, say some Maoists revolutionized a nation. A rapid-revolutionary would fully support this revolution, despite their personal leanings on tendency. Now, let's say the revolution doesn't quite work out, and the majority is unhappy with the way things were set up through the revolution. Have another revolution!
Wash, rinse, repeat!
Eh, I dunno, I'm working on it.

AK
10th July 2010, 08:37
Correcting mistakes isn't a political ideology. It's common sense.

Widerstand
10th July 2010, 13:56
Correcting mistakes isn't a political ideology. It's common sense.

Not so common apparently, else Capitalism would be long gone.






(I realize the flaws of that statement)

Monkey Riding Dragon
10th July 2010, 14:19
I once briefly, in June of 2008, adopted a view that I called "Trotskyist Maoism". It was a phase that lasted about 3 weeks and which corresponded to the gradual shifting of my alignment away from the (Trotskyist) Socialist Equality Party and toward the (then-Maoist) Revolutionary Communist Party. Basically, it was Maoism (e.g. revolutions within the revolution, people's war, broad united front, rural development, etc.) amended in a revisionist way to include Leon Trotsky's permanent war economy concept and disown the possibility of building socialism in one country.

As I listened to more of Bob Avakian's 7 Talks (and namely "Communism: A Whole New World and the Emancipation of All Humanity - Not "The Last Shall Be First and the First Shall Be Last""), however, I came to realize more and more the basic fallacy of Trotsky's perspective and reject it more completely.

Zanthorus
10th July 2010, 14:26
(Trotskyist) Socialist Equality Party and toward the (then-Maoist) Revolutionary Communist Party.

So you went from one crazy cultist sect to another.

Stand Your Ground
10th July 2010, 19:55
Mine's quite embarrasing. :blushing:

A few years ago, I got angry about something, don't remember what, and starting dreaming up what I would do if I was a dictator. :rolleyes::blushing: Not really a bad one, but I did have some pretty fucked up ideas lol. I can elaborate if someone wants to hear it. :blushing: It lasted about a month and then I was apolitical again for a while.

DaComm
10th July 2010, 20:08
Mine's quite embarrasing. :blushing:

A few years ago, I got angry about something, don't remember what, and starting dreaming up what I would do if I was a dictator. :rolleyes::blushing: Not really a bad one, but I did have some pretty fucked up ideas lol. I can elaborate if someone wants to hear it. :blushing: It lasted about a month and then I was apolitical again for a while.


Elaborate. Anything that lasts one month must be good.

Stand Your Ground
10th July 2010, 20:25
Elaborate. Anything that lasts one month must be good.
It had some tendencies based on communism, although I didn't know it at the time, but mostly just bullshit. I wanted no money, no rich, no poor, everybody is equal. That was the good part. The bad part was that I was very authoritarian lol. If you committed a petty crime you were to be put on house arrest for a cetain time based on what you did. If you did a more serious crime, you would be deported. I wanted a one country island type thing lol with very strict border control. I wanted all tobacco, alcohol & drugs banned. That's generally what it was. I realize now how silly that was. :blushing:

Rusty Shackleford
10th July 2010, 20:37
It had some tendencies based on communism, although I didn't know it at the time, but mostly just bullshit. I wanted no money, no rich, no poor, everybody is equal. That was the good part. The bad part was that I was very authoritarian lol. If you committed a petty crime you were to be put on house arrest for a cetain time based on what you did. If you did a more serious crime, you would be deported. I wanted a one country island type thing lol with very strict border control. I wanted all tobacco, alcohol & drugs banned. That's generally what it was. I realize now how silly that was. :blushing:

deport me now.


anyways, i when i was younger and trying out pot i considered myself a militarist-hippie-republican.

Spawn of Stalin
10th July 2010, 21:16
Council Trotskyism. Never again.

Edit: Scary thing is, this wasn't that long ago at all. In the meantime, you can feast your eyes on the terribly photoshopped symbol of Council Trotskyism:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/AlphaKappa95/council-trotskyiststar.png

Where do I sign up?!

Zanthorus
10th July 2010, 21:17
That is actually a pretty cool logo.

AK
11th July 2010, 02:49
It probably would've been better had I not chosen the libertarian socialist star and used a fully red one. Then again, that ignores the ultra-leftist element of it all.

The Red Next Door
11th July 2010, 05:56
So you went from one crazy cultist sect to another.

Leave the Girl Along.

chegitz guevara
11th July 2010, 06:02
I have my own ideology, but I'm not telling any of you what it is. I don't want any followers.

AK
11th July 2010, 06:20
Where do I sign up?!
Here (http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh)

Stand Your Ground
11th July 2010, 18:52
deport me now.


anyways, i when i was younger and trying out pot i considered myself a militarist-hippie-republican.
LOL.

That's a strange combo.

chegitz guevara
11th July 2010, 18:54
Not so strange, actually

eclipse
11th July 2010, 23:50
Anti-Germans deserve applause on their free association skills for managing to link Israel and America to Anti-Fascism and themselves to the political left.

Well, they really deserve applause for a long time - necessary critique of antisemitism in the (german) left and the unquestioned presence of supporters of islamist organizations in the palestine solidarity movement and solidarity with movements of national(ist) liberation as a whole.
To bad this really turned out as another "identity before politics" - youth sect with tendencies to islamophobia and a one sided solidarity with nations instead of people itself. But that is no extraordinary development, i fear.

Rusty Shackleford
14th July 2010, 10:44
LOL.

That's a strange combo.


Not so strange, actually


chegitz is right actually. many a stoners are into videogames as i was. and at the time actually, i had no real care for politics and thought tanks were super cool(still kinda do, those damn metal beasts of awesome) anyways, and just think of militant libertarians :lol:

i know many libertarian stoners.

AK
14th July 2010, 12:01
i know many libertarian stoners.
I think we may have uncovered a connection here, folks.

The Hong Se Sun
28th July 2010, 19:28
I have my own ideology, but I'm not telling any of you what it is. I don't want any followers.

To bad, I'm following it anyway. And when I was way young I used to want Market Socialism. I also used to attack other socialist countrys for not being pure enough for me. Now I'm realistic.

Kotze
28th July 2010, 20:42
Well, [Anti-Germans] really deserve applause for a long time - necessary critique of antisemitism in the (german) leftWho are these famous yet hitherto nameless antisemites among the German left that they so courageously criticize? If that critique is really necessary the problem must be located in the upper echelons...

Is it Gregor Gysi? :rolleyes:

Taikand
28th July 2010, 21:24
I was pretty fucked up when I invented my own ideology.It was something like:
-all power to the great Dick-tator (t'was me)
-produce inly basic food, rest of the productivity should be used for military.
-invade USA and get rid of that parasitic anti-nationalist capitalist ( I was a retard...:blink:) empire.

Adil3tr
28th July 2010, 23:19
I made up Student Bolshevism, and Gummunism. Although the second one is a joke, I made plenty of propaganda

http://www.revleft.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=696&pictureid=6046

Adil3tr
28th July 2010, 23:20
I was pretty fucked up when I invented my own ideology.It was something like:
-all power to the great Dick-tator (t'was me)
-produce inly basic food, rest of the productivity should be used for military.
-invade USA and get rid of that parasitic anti-nationalist capitalist ( I was a retard...:blink:) empire.

This sounds like Pol Pot...