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spice756
2nd July 2010, 07:43
So we have a big wave of anti-globalization and anti-G20 .Toronto got 10,000 people anti -G20 protesting !!! We have new wave like 60,s hippies movment but this is big anti-globalization and anti-G20 movment. Why no anti-big business or anti-rich movment??

Strange we have this anti-globalization and anti-G20 movment but no anti-big business or anti-rich movment

This anti-G20 protest in Toronto was wake up call for me that people in Toronto are more left than the Neoconservatives!!

Ele'ill
3rd July 2010, 02:54
I'm not sure I understand your post but I'll go ahead and reply to what I think you're saying.

The g20 meetings occur so that the world's elite can discuss things such as World Trade Reform involving the IMF/WB and WTO. These three organizations cater to 'big business' as you called it and make it possible for the big corporations to exist, exploit and get away with it.

spice756
3rd July 2010, 03:18
I think the anti-globalization and anti-G20 are people that are protesting about big corporations that exploit people in other countries low pay and unsafe working condition.Also big corporations leaving the rich countries and going to other poor countries and have no regard for the environment.The sweatshopts in poor countries and poor countries that are not has strict on environment laws.

And big corporations going to poor countries and local markets cannot compete.

I think these are the 3 main hot topics the protesters talk about.In way people do not know but they are protesting capitalism and trying to past laws to make it fair.

But there was lots of communist and anarchist there and hippies !! I was very shocked..I thought Canada was not that left.

bcbm
3rd July 2010, 03:25
So we have a big wave of anti-globalization and anti-G20 .Toronto got 10,000 people anti -G20 protesting !!!

it isn't that new, over a decade old now in fact and most of the recent manifestations have been weak in comparison to the earlier ones.

spice756
3rd July 2010, 09:53
it isn't that new, over a decade old now in fact and most of the recent manifestations have been weak in comparison to the earlier ones.

It is a major start !! And 10,000 people protesting in Toronto and small riot in Toronto was a wake up call for me that people are moving more to the left here.

It may be not like the left views here but it is a start.Too bad the US is still cought up in time loop of the cold war Neoconservative views.I still here people worship Librarian free market and think big business / captlist are not evile.

To there is a 'class conscious ie class struggle' and people start to question the free market and big business and understand the social problems the US is doomed.

Sam_b
5th July 2010, 22:28
It is a major start !!

I this is a major start then what was Seattle?

RGacky3
6th July 2010, 01:21
So we have a big wave of anti-globalization and anti-G20 .Toronto got 10,000 people anti -G20 protesting !!! We have new wave like 60,s hippies movment but this is big anti-globalization and anti-G20 movment. Why no anti-big business or anti-rich movment??

Anti-globalization is the media's word, most of those people ARE in the anti big buisiness movement, thats waht the movement is.

BTW, anti-globalization is a misleading word, its not anti-globalization, its anti corporate power (which is global), these movements are very much intertwined globally. That anti-globalization stuff is a miss-representation.

Blake's Baby
6th July 2010, 12:41
I'm not sure. I think anti-globalization is more like what it is, most of the time. In France, for instance, the anti-Globalisation movement is in part funded by the government. It's a pretty deliberate arm of French foreign policy - 'anti-globalisation' more or less means 'anti-Americanism', in other words, protecting smaller, weaker French capitalism against bigger more aggressive American capitalism. So not 'anti-capitalist' at all.

Personally I'm in favour of globalisation. Just not capitalism.

spice756
7th July 2010, 20:42
I'm not sure. I think anti-globalization is more like what it is, most of the time. In France, for instance, the anti-Globalisation movement is in part funded by the government. It's a pretty deliberate arm of French foreign policy - 'anti-globalisation' more or less means 'anti-Americanism', in other words, protecting smaller, weaker French capitalism against bigger more aggressive American capitalism. So not 'anti-capitalist' at all.

Personally I'm in favour of globalisation. Just not capitalism.

I think most of them are that make big buisiness and capitalism fair that does not exploit ,low pay ,work safety,work compensation ,sick days and environmental problems.

They do not have a problem with the rich ,big buisiness or capitalism they hate the unregulated big buisiness and want it to be more fair .

RGacky3
7th July 2010, 23:13
Nooo, I don't think so, most of them are pretty much socialist, at least in principle.