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Charles Xavier
29th June 2010, 15:18
Defend the right to peaceful protest! For a full, independent inquiry
into police repression now.

Young Communist League of Canada Statement on the G20 Demonstrations
and Police Riots

On the weekend of June 26-27, 2010, the leaders of the top 20
capitalist economies met to devise an agenda for the interests of
private demand (i.e. the very rich and major transnational
corporations) including halving deficits by 2013. This translates into
increasing the burden on, and cutting public services to, working
people -- since neither will corporate profits be taxed more, nor will
the military spending on wars be cut.

Over 30,000 people from across Canada (particularly from Quebec and
Southern Ontario) and the world -- involved in the labour, womens',
aboriginal, youth and student, migrant, environmental, international
solidarity, socialist, and many other movements -- peacefully
demonstrated against this criminal agenda. Most were able to
participate from start to finish united, without any incident or
attacks.

This democratic right and necessity to protest should have been
enjoyed by all demonstrators. However in the last few days peaceful
protesters as well as journalists, legal observers, and by-standers
who had no involvement in the protests have been subjected to a police
riot.
The mainstream media has endlessly played images of isolated
incidences of mayhem, where the police were absent, occurring not
because of insufficient security budgets but in spite of the $1
billion that should have gone for education, health care, and public
services at a time when many are suffering from the economic crisis
that is not over.

Police had refused to provide assurances that they would not use
provocateurs, despite being pressed on this point by Ontario
Federation of Labour President Sid Ryan after such agents had been
exposed in the 2007 demonstrations in Quebec against the so-called
Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP).

What has been ignored is not only the main peaceful demonstration
organized by the Canadian Labour Congress and Ontario Federation of
Labour, but also the orgy of police violence with rubber bullets,
indiscriminate mass arrests, acts of physical assault and
intimidation, and night-time arrests of people simply sleeping in
student residences.

Even corporate media personalities such as Steve Paikin have tweeted
that the police assaults were more frightening than war zone reporting
from Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Lebanon, and Israel (Palestine).
Youth and students, Qubcois, as well as people of colour are being
disproportionately targeted and need our support at this crucial time.

The Young Communist League stands in solidarity with and calls for
on-going mobilizations against the G20 agenda and to support the
rights of those who continue to be subjected to police harassment.

We support the Communist Party of Canadas call for an full and
independent inquiry into the police repression and the development of
these operations by the Harper Tories, McGinty Liberals and Toronto
police chief Blair.

The unleashing of the police on protesters and by-standards alike is
an attack on our democratic rights, an attempt to demobilize us while
we continue to be robbed by the G20's capitalist agenda.

Witness statements show that it is sufficient just to be young to be
arrested and beaten, regardless of having no connection to the
demonstrations. Baseless arrests have occurred not just in Toronto
but as far as Vancouver. We demand an immediate end to police
violence and a full public inquiry into police brutality, infringement
on our human rights and where these repressive orders came from.

For many youth this is a time of new and renewed radicalization which
demands leadership that will challenge the capitalist ruling class's
assaults with a movement for socialism.

Issued jointly by the Central and Ontario Executive Committee's, Young
Communist League of Canada
www.ycl-ljc.ca (http://www.ycl-ljc.ca/)

pranabjyoti
29th June 2010, 17:23
In my opinion, the best way of defending the right of peaceful protest is being violent. Most of the Government authorities around the world understand the language of violence better than peaceful protest.

Hexen
29th June 2010, 19:09
When are people going to realize that peaceful protests are not going to do shit and are ineffective?

Charles Xavier
30th June 2010, 00:19
In my opinion, the best way of defending the right of peaceful protest is being violent. Most of the Government authorities around the world understand the language of violence better than peaceful protest.

Your opinion is incredibly naive and out of wack with the reality of the political situation in Canada. We are not close to a point of armed struggle.


When are people going to realize that peaceful protests are not going to do shit and are ineffective?


What would you have us do instead? Peacefully sit at home and be armchair revolutionaries who criticize each other instead? It was an incredible show of force by the labour and peoples movements in Canada. The purpose of the protest is not to change the minds of the fascists who sit around the G8/G20 summits. But to show the strength of the people's forces. We are not strong enough to resist yet, we don't have armies, factories, money. All we have are the people.

bcbm
30th June 2010, 03:40
But to show the strength of the people's forces.

and you got your asses kicked and now the "young communist league" gets to issue statements about it to the mass audience of almost no one who cares.

the real problem with this sort of thing is first of all the belief that we have some right to protest that should be respected, as though the g8/20 leaders haven't made it clear for ages that they don't give a shit and will happily turn the forces of law and order on any and all demonstrators. second is the belief that the police can somehow be reformed and held accountable, despite their entire existence being dedicated to the protection of the very order the young communists theoretically oppose. might as well be liberals.


Steve Paikin have tweeted that the police assaults were more frightening than war zone reporting from “Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Lebanon, and Israel (Palestine)”.

what a fucking moron.

Charles Xavier
30th June 2010, 08:53
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Fietsketting
30th June 2010, 10:36
We are fighting, you are being an armchair revolutionary.

No your selling your magazine on a corner and preach for your own church.

Your point of view does not have to be the point of view of others, despite how eager you are to dismiss other protesters. In othe rtopics you even state you see no issue with turning over activists to the police or hammer them out off a demo. Personally i think your clueless if the party didn't tell you what to do and say.

Charles Xavier
30th June 2010, 13:55
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Fietsketting
30th June 2010, 13:59
No we're not. We are organizing protests, leafletting the downtown on behalf of a coalition, and we are trying to free our brothers and sisters from jail. Because some of them are still in jail.


I have not once supported turning in anyone into the cops, or told people to get out of a demo, you are using slander against me in place of real debate.

A few threads back you stated you did not have a problem by handing anarchists over to the police or removing them by force. That doesn't mean i said that you did it personally, but there you seem to be supportibe of people who are. Can't be bothered to go look for it now tho as I am working at the moment.

Luisrah
30th June 2010, 16:01
The difference between a peaceful protest and a violent protest is simple

If they have the same number of people doing it, the first maybe won't make it into the television, and the second will.
The second usually has more impact than the first, to the working class, since it's the only one that the news talk about.
The first has a good impact, the second has a bad impact on how people view our cause.

IMO, violent protests should only exist when there is a higher level of class conscience.
Plus, the repression of a peaceful protest is seen as much more undemocratical than the repression of a violent protest.

bcbm
1st July 2010, 04:38
We never got our asses kicked we were out of Queen's park hours before the police attacked it. Get your facts straight. And it should be made clear we did have for ages the democratic right to protest. This is the largest crackdown of a peaceful protest in Canadian History and it has been a rallying point for the left including anarchists communists and progressive to point to to show the attack on the people's forces to the outside world.

i'm sorry, as i understand communist politics, you're against the current canadian state and certainly capitalism, so i'm not sure why you're surprised that this happened and i am even less sure what calling for an inquiry has to do with showing the blatantly obvious (police attack people who are critical of the current order- welcome to every summit protest for the last decade!) to "the outside world."


We, a coalition of the communists, anarchists, trade unions and other progressive on say we should organize around it. And expose the state for what it is, a state which defends the interest of the capitalist class against the working class while this is still in the public's consciousness.it took you until now to figure this out and have a desire to expose it? sad times...


We are there to expose the abuses of state power and even their own laws.the existence of state power and capitalism is the abuse. you basically sound like liberals crying about the state not fulfilling its "democratic role" to protect the people or whatever bullshit.


We are raising the political consciousness of the working class. And we are a coalition with anarchists of various tendencies who partake in the coalition. You on the other hand are telling us to get over it and don't attack the state for what they have done.actually i would love it if you all attacked the state instead of framing the state and its forces as legitimate actors and calling for inquiries to try and make amends and maintain social peace.


Most anarchists have condemned in coalition meetings that the black bloc attack as an act of agent provocateurs. You on the other hand continue to defend those provocateurs. Who's side are you own?i am on the side of those who want to open ruptures and make plain the civil war that occurs every day, as opposed to those who call such individuals cops against all reason and make peace with the state and capital to further their own insipid political maneuvers.


The cop cars in question were old cop cars which are no longer in service that were attacked. They were parked in the middle of the street with no one to defend it. Really does this picture seem logically to you? It was a set up. It was engineered and some people became tools.i'd like to see some concrete evidence. of course even if it was "a set up" that doesn't make the people who attacked them cops and such insinuations are completely disgusting. any "anarchist" (i expect it from your ilk) who would talk some trash should just drop the label and start voting liberal.


If anything this is a wake up call to working people in Canada that the right to peacefully demonstrate and democracy are illusions and have no actual baring on reality.i doubt it, and i bet somebody said the same thing at quebec city almost a decade ago. how bizarre. :rolleyes:


Now we must get to work to free everyone from jail.finally something we can agree on!


We are fighting, you are being an armchair revolutionary.i don't own any chairs actually, sorry.

Charles Xavier
2nd July 2010, 22:33
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this is an invasion
3rd July 2010, 11:22
Most anarchists have condemned in coalition meetings that the black bloc attack as an act of agent provocateurs. You on the other hand continue to defend those provocateurs. Who's side are you own?

The cop cars in question were old cop cars which are no longer in service that were attacked. They were parked in the middle of the street with no one to defend it. Really does this picture seem logically to you? It was a set up. It was engineered and some people became tools.

In the past you've pulled things out of your ass, so I'm just gonna assume you're making things up again.


We are fighting, you are being an armchair revolutionary.lol riight

this is an invasion
3rd July 2010, 11:25
The difference between a peaceful protest and a violent protest is simple

If they have the same number of people doing it, the first maybe won't make it into the television, and the second will.
The second usually has more impact than the first, to the working class, since it's the only one that the news talk about.
The first has a good impact, the second has a bad impact on how people view our cause.

IMO, violent protests should only exist when there is a higher level of class conscience.
Plus, the repression of a peaceful protest is seen as much more undemocratical than the repression of a violent protest.
I hate people with martyr complexes.

blake 3:17
6th July 2010, 06:17
No offense intended to Professor X but I think the following is more notable. This represents a significant layer of union activists willing to push the limits of sanctioned protest. Signatures are extensive but incomplete.

Open Letter to Ken Georgetti and the Canadian Labour Congress:

We are labour activists, many of whom were involved in organizing against the G20 Summit in Toronto and solidarity actions across the country. After the Peoples First march, many of us remained on the streets throughout the weekend contesting the unprecedented militarization of our city and the G20 neoliberal agenda.

We are disturbed and concerned to read the statement by Ken Georgetti, President of the Canadian Labour Congress, issued during the G20 summit. The CLC issued a statement condemning vandalism and declaring their commitment to working with the police throughout the summit; however, the CLCs statement is shockingly silent about the violence perpetrated by the state and police, aimed at rendering the right of people to assemble, organize and resist obsolete, brutalizing our sisters, brothers and children.

Union members and our allies in the community were victims of the organized confusion that led to the massive violations of our basic civil liberties including house raids without warrants, indiscriminate searches, and the warehousing of activists, innocent bystanders and others for hours without charges in a dehumanizing detention centre.

Thousands of union members and others gathered on the streets and in the state and police-sanctioned free speech zone, otherwise known as Queens Park. As the mainstream media was glued to unattended burning police cars, protesters were being charged and trampled by police horses, subject to indiscriminate arrests, rubber bullets, tear gas and various forms of police brutality.

The focus on vandalism and attacks on private property espoused by the CLC statement and some mainstream media outlets, expels from the debate the legitimate concerns and lived injustices of many within the labour movement who turned out to protest the G8/G20. By commission or omission this limited focus legitimizes the suspension of rights and liberties in this city, including the right to assembly and the right to political protest.

Thousands mobilized in front of police headquarters on June 28th in solidarity with the hundreds of activists still being detained and our unions and union flags were absent. We believe union solidarity should have been present. While we are encouraged to see the CLC's recent decision to join the call for a public inquiry, we feel that the CLC and Ontario Federation of Labour (OFL) must support our allies, call for the release of all prisoners in the detention centres and jails, and resist the attack on our human rights in all its forms.

We as a labour movement must commit to organize social movements along with our allies in social justice, environmental justice, grass-roots, anti-poverty, anti-racist, feminist, non-status, Indigenous, Queer and international movements to challenge and resist neoliberal capitalist governments ruthless assaults on the working people in Canada and globally. We will not and cannot win the struggle we face against the violent onslaught of neoliberalism by abandoning our allies and our communities in the wake of a massive crackdown on dissent.



Signatories:

Katherine Nastovski, CUPE Local 3903
Kelly OSullivan, President CUPE Local 4803
Adrian Smith, Justicia for Migrant Workers, Workers Assembly
Ilian Bubrano, Chair CUPE Ontario International Solidarity Committee, CUPE Local 3393
Dave Bleakney, National Union Representative Canadian Union of Postal Workers
Tracy Supruniuk, CUPE Local 3903
Chris Ramsaroop, Justicia for Migrant Workers, CUPE Local 1281
Farid Chaharlangi, President CUPE Local 4772
Rachel Rosen, OSSTF District 12
Herman Rosenfeld, Retired CAW Staffperson, Workers Assembly
Lynda Lemberg, OSSTF District 12, Active Retired Member
Mohan Mishra, CUPE Local 1281
Giti Iranpoor, OPSEU Local 512
Alison Fischer, OSSTF District 12
Ken Luckhardt, Retired CAW Staffperson
Ryan Toews, CUPE Local 3903
Jude Welburn, CUPE Local 3902
Jim Reid, CAW Local 27, London Ontario
Nicole Wall, Justicia for Migrant Workers
David McNally, York University Faculty Association
Ali Mallah, CLC Alternate VP Workers of Colour, Steward CUPE Local 79
Christina Rousseau, CUPE Local 3903
Gary Lawrence, 1st Vice-President, OPSEU Local 504
Caitlin Hewitt-White, Workers' Assembly, OSSTF District 12
Kaushalya Bannerji, York University CUPE Local 3903
Victor Saliba, OPSEU Local 526
Robert Allison, Member of OPSEU
Sean Starrs, CUPE Local 3903
Richard Roman, Retired University of Toronto Professor and Trade Union Scholar
Laura Parsons, CUPE Local 1281
Vic Natola, Steward at the Federation of Metro Tenants Association, CUPE Local 1281
Elizabeth Byce, Retired Member of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers
Donald Burke, CUPE Local 3903
James Campbell, OSSTF District 34
Amina Ally, OSSTF District 12
Ali Mallah, CLC Alternate VP. Workers of colour; Steward, CUPE local 79
Wendy Glauser, CUPE Local 3903
Ingrid Vander Kloet, ONA Local 97
Heather Dorries, CUPE Local 3902
Bruce Allan, CAW Local 199
Alex Levant, CUPE Local 3903
Peter Brogan, Workers Assembly and CUPE Local 3903
Sam Gindin, Retired Staff CAW
Denise Hammond, President CUPE Local 1281
Sarah Hornstein, CUPE Local 3903 and CUPE Local 1281
Ian Weniger, member of Vancouver Secondary Teachers Association, local 392 of the BC Teachers Federation. (VSTA/BCTF)
Ajamu Nangwaya, Anarchist - Common Cause, Chair External - CUPE Local 3907, Divisional Steward - CUPE Local 3902
Malissa Phung, Equity Officer @CUPE 3906
Jacobo Vargas Foronda, Academic Researcher
Ali Ghorbani, CUPE local 3798
Dr. Michael C.K. Ma, The Kwantlen Faculty Association (KFA) of Kwantlen Polytechnic University in BC. A member of Asian Canadian Labour Alliance
Jonah Gindin, Ontario Coalition Against Poverty and CUPE 1979
Taodhg Burns - Industrial Workers of the World - Toronto-General Members Branch
Elizabeth Ha, OPSEU Workers of Colour & OFL VP Workers of Colour
Katie Wolk; CUPE 1281
Annu Saini, writer and activist
Douglas Hayes, Retired CAW local 200, The Council of Canadians, Windsor Essex Chapter
Kurban Versi, an active and concerned Canadian Citizen and resident of Toronto.
Dan Sawyer, CUPE 1281
Sabrina 'Butterfly' Gopaul, LIFE Movement, Head News Correspondent of Jane-Finch.com and News Now host for CHRY 105.5FM, CUPE Local 4772
Hayley Goodchild, CUPE 3906
John Hollingsworth, COPE Local 225
Paul Richard Erato, CUPE Local 416
Nick Bonokoski, CUPE 3761
Ronda Brook, Member, CUPE 1281
Clarice Kuhling, WLUFA and soon to be CUPE Local 3904
Sharyn Sigurdur (MfD) UFCW Local 1518
David Rennie Canadian Union of Postal Workers
Stefan Kipfer, YUFA, York University
Eve Roa, activist for the Mexican Migrant Workers, Health Care Worker
Kate Parizeau, CUPE Local 3902
Roger Langen, Teacher OSSTF
Baolinh Dang, CUPE Local 1281
Rodney Doody, York MA Student, CUPE Local 3903
Megan Cotton-Kinch, CUPE Local 3903
Simon Granovsky-Larsen, York University CUPE Local 3903
Robert Morden, York University Student
Wayne Dealy, Secretary Treasurer CUPE Local 3902 and CAW 385
Paul Bocking, Executive Officer Occasional Teachers Bargaining Unit. OSSTF District 12
Ian Hussey, CUPE Local 3903
David Camfield, Member of UMFA/NUCAUT
Patrick Vitale, Liaison Officer CUPE Local 3902
Katie Mazer, CUPE Local 3902
Jacqueline Bergen, CUPE Local 3903
Tom Young, CUPE Local 3902 University of Toronto
Barry Weisleder, Member of OSSTF District 12
Tim McCaskell, OSSTF
Chris Vance, CUPE Local 3903
Evelyn Encalada Grez, Justicia for Migrant Workers
Richard Fung
Tom Keefer, CUPE Local 3903, Co-Chair of the 3903 First Nations Solidarity Working Group
Salah Irandoust, SEIU
David Lavin, CUPE Local 3903
Ferreshteh Bahmani, OPSEU
Parastou Saberi, CUPE Local 3903
B. Ross Ashley, retired militant, SEIU Local 1 Canada
Noaman Ali, CUPE Local 3902
Rene Guerra Salazar, CUPE Local 3902
Jordy Cummings, CUPE Local 3903
Helen Luu, UFCW Local 175
Megan Dombrowski, CUPE Local 3903
Logan Sellathurai International Solidarity Committee, CUPE Ontario
Gail McCabe, CUPE Local 3903
Jean McDonald, CUPE 3903
David DePoe, Elementary Teachers of Toronto Political Action Committee, and Workers' Assembly;
Joshua Moufawad-Paul, CUPE Local 3903
Erika Del Carmen Fuchs, Justicia for Migrant Workers, Organizing Centre for Social and Economic
Justice, CUPE Local 1936
Wendy Naava Smolash, Teaching Support Staff Union, Simon Fraser University
Jilvan Irandoust, OSSTF
Gary Romanuk CUPE Local 3903, Workers' Assembly
Datejie Green - CUPE 3903, ACTRA Toronto, Past National Director of Human Rights and Equity-
Canadian Media Guild.
Michael Hurley, First Vice-President, CUPE Ontario
Irina Ceric, CUPE Local 3903
Julia Barnett, CUPE Local 79
Jean Claude Parrot, Retired Trade Unionist, Lifetime member of CUPW
Ritika Shrimali, CUPE local 3903
Shahzad Javanmardi, CUPE Local 79
Robert Ballingall, Political Science, University of Toronto
Clare O'Connor, CUPE 1281
Hayssam Hulays, OSSTF District 12
Punam Khosla - member CUPE 3903
Paul Jackson, CUPE 3902 member
Tyler Shipley, CUPE 3903
David Heap, UWO Faculty Association / People for Peace, London
Michelle (Shell) Sweeney, PSAC,
Natalie Polonsky LaRoche: Retired member, CUPE 79, PSAC, Founder, Gay and Lesbian Pride
March 1981, Member, Independent Jewish Voices, ACJC
Paul Kellogg, Athabasca University Faculty Association (in a personal capacity)
Wendy Forrest, ONA Local 054
Terry Moore, Retired OPSEU Staffperson
Mahmood Ahmadi, OPSEU Local 540
Donna Ramsaroop, CUPE Local 1281
Greg Fletcher, CUPE Local 3903
John Simoulidis, CUPE Local 3903
Marion Mueller St. Catharines, ON
Gita Hashemi, Artist, Educator, Formerly CUPE 3903, no longer unionized due to neoliberalization of universities
Karen Walker, CUPE Local 3903
Michael Hirsch, New Politics magazine, New York City;
Giuliana Fumagalli STTP - CUPW, local de Montral ؛
Mark Brill retired former CUPW member now on ODSP, Toront
Jon Short, CUPE 3903
Mostafa Henaway, organizer for the Immigrant Worker Centre in Montreal
Mazen Masri, CUPE 3903
Chris Cormier, OPSEU VP Local 456
Marco Luciano - Migrante and Staff CUPE Local 1281
Richard McKergow, Justicia for Migrant Workers, CUPE 1281
Anita Krajnc
Sarah Kardash, CUPE Local 3433
Fereshteh Bozorgani, CUPE
Paul Chislett, Windsor social activist; former president, CEP Local 37
Mary Ellen Campbell, President, CUPE 3906
Kelly Fritsch CUPE 3903
Ron Drouillard, President: Windsor Workers' Action Centre
Maria Wallis, Cupe 3903
Cynthia Wright, CUPE 3903
Rhonda Sussman, USW Local 1998, Workers' Assembly
June Ross; Retired CUPE National Representative
Rolf Gerstenberger, President, Local 1005 USW;
Federico Carvajal, Vice-president, CUPE 1281
Anna Willats, OPSECAAT (part-time college workers in OPSEU)
Merlin Moss Ships Point Ventures Ltd
Bonnie Bain BCNU
Mireille Coral, OECTA member
Jessica Ponting, Justicia for Migrant Workers
Michael Truscello, Ph.D., Assistant Professor, Departments of English and General Education
Alex Diceanu - member of anarchist organization Common Cause and CUPE
3906
Gary Jarvis, CUPE 391 Executive Member at Large and delegate to the Vancouver & District Labour Council
Philip Diceanu, Common Cause Member
Carmen Sanchez, York University, CUPE 3903 member
James Taylor CUPE 3906
Gary Kinsman, Laurentian University Faculty Association (LUFA), Sudbury
Todd Gordon, CUPE 3903
Eve Haque, YUFA