View Full Version : Police Attacked a Peaceful protest at Queen's Park
Charles Xavier
27th June 2010, 22:44
After the Labour March of about 20,00 - 40,00 people which peacefully finished the march at Queen's Park at around 4pm. The Police attacked whoever stayed in the park after the G20 Protest March.
They ran into the protest and randomly grabbed people who were peaceful at the protest.
This is a part of Toronto separate from where the Anarchist Idiot Riots were.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j2PG2qxRY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3nCoNvldk&feature=player_embedded
more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r31y_FEjkVc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jTf7cgsAa4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CzjbzUgikU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GGzvw2BEsU&feature=related
bcbm
27th June 2010, 22:48
sounds like the g20 was pretty much par for the course then
Anarchist Idiot Riots
there were some maoists, too
Charles Xavier
27th June 2010, 22:52
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Subcomandante Marcos.
27th June 2010, 22:56
grrr those pesky Anarchists, not letting pigs brutalise them..
grrr, actually attacking the power structure and fighting cops, not theorising about the moscow trials and some 80 year old cult leader grrrrrr
:rolleyes:
bcbm
27th June 2010, 22:57
The police presence at the protests was immense. Far more than what has ever been seen before in Canada.
the increased militarization of summit protests has been happening for some time now. as far as a g20 event goes, this has been pretty standard- lots of cops, peaceful protesters assaulted, anarchists riot. and from the looks of it, the street fighting didn't even come close to what occurred in quebec city.
Charles Xavier
27th June 2010, 22:58
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Subcomandante Marcos.
27th June 2010, 23:03
and they got their asses kicked and looked like sheep holding hands begging the state not to fuck them over.
Maybe we need to stop singing, and start swinging, huh
Charles Xavier
27th June 2010, 23:05
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Luisrah
27th June 2010, 23:11
and they got their asses kicked and looked like sheep holding hands begging the state not to fuck them over.
Maybe we need to stop singing, and start swinging, huh
If a peaceful protest is repressed, it sends a much larger echo to the people than some people wrecking cars getting arrested.
The repression of the first is seen as much more undemocratical than the repression of the seconds, because the first were in their right to protest, and the seconds were violent.
Charles Xavier
27th June 2010, 23:15
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/27/toronto-police-attack-pea_n_627042.html
Fietsketting
27th June 2010, 23:42
You go and try. They outnumbered and outgunned the people who remained at queen's park.
Thats always the case aint it? Who do they keep doing it?
Lacrimi de Chiciură
28th June 2010, 01:31
I wonder what would happen if people brought weapons to this like the Tea Party did at their protests. Would the police think twice about attacking them?
Stand Your Ground
28th June 2010, 01:36
You go and try. They outnumbered and outgunned the people who remained at queen's park.
Well I guess we can see where armed revolutions begin...
Even if some people don't want to start shooting, others may.
Charles Xavier
28th June 2010, 13:53
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meow
28th June 2010, 15:10
Charles Xavier;1786147After the Labour March of about 20,00 - 40,00 people which peacefully finished the march at Queen's Park at around 4pm. The Police attacked whoever stayed in the park after the G20 Protest March.
They ran into the protest and randomly grabbed people who were peaceful at the protest.
This is a part of Toronto separate from where the Anarchist Idiot Riots were.
Charles Xavier
28th June 2010, 16:05
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Crux
28th June 2010, 16:15
Form lines when the police do. And it would be nice if the black bloc could actually defend a demo for once instead of running off on their own riot bussines, but that's wishfull thinking I suppose.
and they got their asses kicked and looked like sheep holding hands begging the state not to fuck them over.
Maybe we need to stop singing, and start swinging, huh
It would have taken a sizable revolutionary army to have even have the slimmest chance of breaking through the G20 security lines.
Even if Toronto turning into another Paris May 1968 or Detroit July 1967 during G20 they would be unable to defeat the G20 in a timely fashion simply due to the concentration of forces defending the G20. Hell even a battle hardened revolutionary army would probably rather contain the G20 (prevent the leaders from leaving the security zone of downtown Toronto) then try to fight their way into the security zone.
The best strategy would have been a general strike to disrupt the G20 through lack of labor and shutting Toronto down, not the small pin pricks like smashing windows and burning police cars.
bcbm
29th June 2010, 07:02
Form lines when the police do. And it would be nice if the black bloc could actually defend a demo for once instead of running off on their own riot bussines, but that's wishfull thinking I suppose.
when a black bloc marches in with the rest of they demo, they get accused of picking fights with the cops and endangering everybody. when they go have their own thing, they get accused of the same and attacked for not defending the demo. can't win :-(
for what its worth, the black bloc in vancouver did defend a demo there during the olympics.
What Would Durruti Do?
29th June 2010, 07:47
This is a part of Toronto separate from where the Anarchist Idiot Riots were.
Grow up already.
What Would Durruti Do?
29th June 2010, 07:51
If a peaceful protest is repressed, it sends a much larger echo to the people than some people wrecking cars getting arrested.
Yeah and that echo says "either we stand up for ourselves or we sacrifice all our dignity as slaves of our corporate masters"
Just because some people are too slow to realize that hippie lovefests and singing songs doesn't resist the authority of the bourgeoisie doesn't mean we should all choose not to fight back.
I don't know what you think class WARFARE stands for, but it ain't asking nicely for a little respect.
Charles Xavier
29th June 2010, 14:57
when a black bloc marches in with the rest of they demo, they get accused of picking fights with the cops and endangering everybody. when they go have their own thing, they get accused of the same and attacked for not defending the demo. can't win :-(
for what its worth, the black bloc in vancouver did defend a demo there during the olympics.
The black block was not strong enough to defend the Demo the reason they got to vandalize as much as they did was because the police let them.
bcbm
30th June 2010, 04:02
maybe y'all can listen to this guy (http://www.calgarysun.com/news/columnists/ricky_leong/2010/06/28/14550066.html) and start supporting the cops pre-arresting all of the anarchists so they can't spoil your stroll.
The black block was not strong enough to defend the Demo
how do you know?
the reason they got to vandalize as much as they did was because the police let them
well at least the police are occasionally useful.
Charles Xavier
30th June 2010, 09:09
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bricolage
30th June 2010, 12:36
Because with the exception of the cops who infiltrated the black bloc they were all underweight youth.
Wow! It's amazing how you know so much about every single person in the black bloc, how DID you manage to conduct such a detailed study of not a few but ALL the participants in such a heated environment? I imagine a number of academic researchers would be particularly interested in your abilities.
REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL
30th June 2010, 13:16
maybe y'all can listen to this guy (http://www.calgarysun.com/news/columnists/ricky_leong/2010/06/28/14550066.html) and start supporting the cops pre-arresting all of the anarchists so they can't spoil your stroll.
Wow, Jacob Richter got a job at the Calgary Sun? Impressive.
Fietsketting
30th June 2010, 13:41
Because with the exception of the cops who infiltrated the black bloc they were all underweight youth. They numbered less than 100 and the cops numbered 25,000. The cops had guns, sound cannons, and tear gas, the black bloc had skinny arms and legs.
You fight to win not to lose.
And still they did way better then your peacefull protest. They made in in the media worldwide with only hunderd, you had thousands but are boring and prefer to rather preach then to take action.
Fietsketting
30th June 2010, 13:43
maybe y'all can listen to this guy (http://www.calgarysun.com/news/columnists/ricky_leong/2010/06/28/14550066.html) and start supporting the cops pre-arresting all of the anarchists so they can't spoil your stroll.
how do you know?
well at least the police are occasionally useful.
\That deserves a topic of its own imo, such an horrible piece of writing
Charles Xavier
30th June 2010, 13:43
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bricolage
30th June 2010, 14:51
100 people is not a lot of people. And they dressed before they got there.
So you checked all 100 (assuming you have the right numbers here) for their weight and age and concluded ALL of them fitted into your spurious distinctions of 'underweight' and 'youth'? Except of course those that were not which had to be cops right? Cos its only cops that aren't underweight youth'?
Charles Xavier
1st July 2010, 03:09
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The real problem we have is with the police's response. They have been arresting and assaulting people all week and our brothers and sisters are being held by them and their rights are being violated. have you heard of the state? it protects capitalism, and uses the police as one arm of this role.
also lol @ "rights"
Regardless whether the black bloc are amazing or bad. The real problem we have is with the police's response. They have been arresting and assaulting people all week and our brothers and sisters are being held by them and their rights are being violated.
they do that anyway. stupid.
#FF0000
1st July 2010, 05:54
Real talk people should probably go to these protests carrying their legal firearms like the Tea Partiers do.
#FF0000
1st July 2010, 06:04
After obtaining the necessary permits of course.
bricolage
1st July 2010, 10:48
Regardless whether the black bloc are amazing or bad. The real problem we have is with the police's response.
Regardless of what the 'real issue' is, you've still failed to answer what I was talking about.
They have been arresting and assaulting people all week and our brothers and sisters are being held by them and their rights are being violated.
Go speak to some black Americans, this shit aint new.
It is incredible to me that charles xavier is basically putting the blame for police attacks and repression on the shoulders of anarchists, and then actually has the nerve to accuse anyone else of supporting the cops. Hmm...
Real talk people should probably go to these protests carrying their legal firearms like the Tea Partiers do.
why
Foldered
1st July 2010, 19:10
After obtaining the necessary permits of course.
You can't have firearms, even if they're unconcealed, in public like that in Canada.
this is an invasion
1st July 2010, 19:17
Because with the exception of the cops who infiltrated the black bloc they were all underweight youth. They numbered less than 100 and the cops numbered 25,000. The cops had guns, sound cannons, and tear gas, the black bloc had skinny arms and legs. Ha. You're kidding right? Montreal has a huge Redskin scene.
You fight to win not to lose.
Then what the fuck are you doing?
Regardless whether the black bloc are amazing or bad. The real problem we have is with the police's response. They have been arresting and assaulting people all week and our brothers and sisters are being held by them and their rights are being violated.
It seems like this protest you started the thread about had nothing to do with the black bloc. I didn't read about it or watch any videos because honestly I don't care a whole lot, but if the black bloc wasn't there, and these people got wrecked by the police, what does that tell you?
What Would Durruti Do?
2nd July 2010, 05:58
Real talk people should probably go to these protests carrying their legal firearms like the Tea Partiers do.
There's a difference between resisting authority and outright suicide.
I do remember a story about a Greek protester with an AK-47 though. He actually shot it too. So I guess if I was in Greece I would consider it.
Salyut
2nd July 2010, 06:39
Real talk people should probably go to these protests carrying their legal firearms like the Tea Partiers do.
That is a hilariously big nogo in Canada. Our gun laws are far, far more restrictive then America. A firearm rights advocate in my province was arrested for bringing the receiver of a unregistered firearm to a protest - and this was in the West. I don't even want to imagine what would happen in a large urban center if someone did that.
tdlr you really don't even want to consider that in Beaverland.
edit: plus you'd get the gun ban people screaming and could probably bring down more restrictive laws. Even the Tories don't give a fuck about gun owners. :<
Charles Xavier
3rd July 2010, 04:55
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