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Klaatu
25th June 2010, 05:00
U.S. Republicans say to the unemployed: GET A JOB, LOSERS!

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: The job 'Have-Nots' - a brilliant examination of the GOP's cruel mindset

Here is the web page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrGYG5yLYTw&feature=channel

t.shonku
25th June 2010, 05:11
"Loser" is a term often used by capitalists.

Klaatu
25th June 2010, 05:24
Capitalists create unemployment. They want there to be unemployment so they can cut wages (supply and demand applies to labor too)

The master overlord capitalist giveth, and the master overlord capitalist taketh away...

Adi Shankara
25th June 2010, 05:28
so only the GOP has a cruel mindset? what about the Democrats, who are just as capitalist and reactionary?

What difference does it make if they're Republicans or not? Democrats are also shooting the same proletariat fish in that same barrel; they're both capitalists at the end of the day; so is Rachel Maddow.

You will be hard pressed to find a single post where Rachel Maddow openly advocates socialist or Communist societal change, or rightfully exposes the Democrats for the capitalist statists that they are; but she won't. why? she's a capitalist supporter of reformist agenda.

Klaatu
25th June 2010, 05:35
so only the GOP has a cruel mindset? what about the Democrats, who are just as capitalist and reactionary?

What difference does it make if they're Republicans or not? Democrats are also shooting the proletariat fish in that same barrel; they're both capitalists at the end of the day; so is Rachel Maddow.

You will be hard pressed to find a single post where Rachel Maddow openly advocates socialist or Communist societal change, or rightfully exposes the Democrats for the capitalist statists that they are; but she won't. why? she's a capitalist supporter of reformist agenda.

I don't know if I would go blasting Maddow, it's really about unemployment compensation, which is OUR MONEY; it does not belong to these filthy Republican criminals. It belongs to the worker. After all, he is not out of a job by his own choice. That is what makes my blood boil; the fact that Republicans seem to think they are the keepers of the WORKERS' hard-earned unemployment insurance. It's our fucking money, not theirs.

Adi Shankara
25th June 2010, 05:35
the fact that Republicans seem to think they are the keepers of the WORKERS' hard-earned unemployment insurance.

The Democrats think the exact same thing:

http://current.com/news-and-politics/89000979_house-democrats-cut-unemployment-extension-to-fund-wars.htm

there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans; at the end of the day, they're both still capitalist.

Klaatu
25th June 2010, 05:39
The Democrats think the exact same thing:

http://current.com/news-and-politics/89000979_house-democrats-cut-unemployment-extension-to-fund-wars.htm

there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans; at the end of the day, they're both still capitalist.

Maybe so, but at least we will always get our unemployment insurance funds that are rightfully ours, from Democrats.

That has always been the case, comrade.

proudcomrade
25th June 2010, 20:26
Maybe so, but at least we will always get our unemployment insurance funds that are rightfully ours, from Democrats.

That has always been the case, comrade.

Democrats have also recently been the responsible party for the extension of war in the Middle East, and a mandate that the working poor purchase privatized medical insurance. Democrats have recently reaffirmed the embargo against Cuba indefinitely.

I'm telling you, comrade, it's all an endless game of three-card monte.

Klaatu
25th June 2010, 22:30
Well, you are right, Democrats behave more like Republicans than they behave like Democrats. And yet, they get endless criticism from conservatives... go figure? :confused:

Robocommie
26th June 2010, 01:36
Let's keep in mind that this is not something which is ordained in heaven and written in stone. The Democrats current party makeup and relative conservativism is a result of several factors - chief among these is Clintonian neo-liberalism which did a lot to bring more "moderates" into the party in order to appeal to the center. Frankly, I don't think we're going to see less of this, only more - as the Republicans attempt to appeal to the most right wing elements of the American base, they'll alienate their own moderates and likely more of them will go to the Democrats, but this will make the Democrats an even more centrist party, until it will no longer resemble in anyway the party of Lyndon B. Johnson or Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

There still are right at this moment some genuine progressives amongst the Democrats, though they are a serious minority. It would be a mistake to suggest they're exactly the same as the Republicans. Of course they're reformist. However, I would prefer reformist progressives over hardcore Reaganites and libertarians any day.

Klaatu
26th June 2010, 03:24
Let's keep in mind that this is not something which is ordained in heaven and written in stone. The Democrats current party makeup and relative conservativism is a result of several factors - chief among these is Clintonian neo-liberalism which did a lot to bring more "moderates" into the party in order to appeal to the center. Frankly, I don't think we're going to see less of this, only more - as the Republicans attempt to appeal to the most right wing elements of the American base, they'll alienate their own moderates and likely more of them will go to the Democrats, but this will make the Democrats an even more centrist party, until it will no longer resemble in anyway the party of Lyndon B. Johnson or Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

There still are right at this moment some genuine progressives amongst the Democrats, though they are a serious minority. It would be a mistake to suggest they're exactly the same as the Republicans. Of course they're reformist. However, I would prefer reformist progressives over hardcore Reaganites and libertarians any day.

This is all part of the "Reagan Democrat" thing in the 1980s. I was a Reagan Democrat then; I actually thought that this guy was going to do some good to America. I was wrong; boy was I wrong. While Reagan himself was not an unlikeable guy; he was a wolf-in-sheep's-clothing so to speak... He ushered in some of the most anti-society, anti-human changes known to man. Reagan, IMHO, changed the world of American politics for the worst! Well just look at American right-wing politics today: the most mean-spirited, uncooperative, ignorant bastards, the likes of which the world has not seen in this age... (this "age of reason")

Nolan
26th June 2010, 04:08
Democrats are idiots.

Republicans are extremely bigoted idiots.

(that's if you buy into the fantasy that they're different at all)

Martin Blank
26th June 2010, 05:22
Democrats are idiots.

Republicans are extremely bigoted idiots.

(that's if you buy into the fantasy that they're different at all)

One can recognize there are tactical and even strategic differences between Democrats and Republicans, and at the same time reject the bourgeois "lesser evilism" that reformists play into every election cycle. In fact, doing so is the best way to disarm reformists and neuter their arguments.