the hadza

[bcbm]

They grow no food, raise no livestock, and live without rules or calendars. They are living a hunter-gatherer existence that is little changed from 10,000 years ago. What do they know that we've forgotten?

from national geographic (http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/12/hadza/finkel-text).

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Fascinating. I've read this before, but thanks for posting it. I think it may be possible in the future to re-create societies like this if people so desire - if technological society can be compactified enough. Failing that, off-world migration may allow it.

[bcbm]

i think it is important to not destroy the few that remain now, especially through forced "modernization" programs.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

i think it is important to not destroy the few that remain now, especially through forced "modernization" programs.

That may not be possible. As an inevitable consequence of lifting the vast majority of the human species out of misery, groups like the Hadza could disappear.

[bcbm]

i don't think there is anything "inevitable" about it. the government and even their "representative" have made it clear that they will be trying to force the hadza into the economy. i don't see why they can't simply be left alone.

i also think the "vast majority" being lifted out of misery is probably not accurate.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

i don't think there is anything "inevitable" about it. the government and even their "representative" have made it clear that they will be trying to force the hadza into the economy. i don't see why they can't simply be left alone.

In the individual case of the Hadza, they could easily be "left alone" and everything would be hunky-dory.


i also think the "vast majority" being lifted out of misery is probably not accurate.

I was speaking in global terms, if that wasn't clear.

[bcbm]

In the individual case of the Hadza, they could easily be "left alone" and everything would be hunky-dory.

yes, but "intervention" from others seems more likely.


I was speaking in global terms, if that wasn't clear.

it was.

[the last donut of the night]

That was fascinating. It's amazing what class society has done to humans. Maybe this is human nature: maybe we're naturally set to be like the Hadza -- no conflict, no patriarchy, no class, no worrisome envy, nothing. I hope that one day we'll go back to our true selves.