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Dick Gaughan
22nd June 2010, 12:48
people have posted guns are banned in the UK, this is not true.

You may own as many shotguns as you please, but they must only hold two shells with one in the barrell.

You may own a 308 calibre rifle, which shoots the 308 NATO round, or a 243 calibre rifle, you have to get a certificate for each one, showing use for it, ie sports shooting, range, hunting.

I think in the Uk it is legal to buy most caliobres now, though weapons other than bolt action or shotgun are banned.

It is your right, in the English bill of rights, that you may own said firearms.

You need a shotgun liscence, for the shotguns, this permits as ,many smooth bore shotguns you wish to aquire.

A FAC (firearms certificate) is needed for every single rifle you wish to buy.

you may stock, 2000 rounds of ammo, or there abouts.

Every worker should have a gun to defend from tyranny and abuse.

Do not let people lie to you, as a worker, you can own fire guns and even start a working mens shooting club.

Anyway, thats all i joined up for,

GL

Forward Union
22nd June 2010, 13:37
people have posted guns are banned in the UK, this is not true.

You may own as many shotguns as you please, but they must only hold two shells with one in the barrell.

I think in the Uk it is legal to buy most caliobres now, though weapons other than bolt action or shotgun are banned.

Except, you need a license. And to get it, you need to have definitive proof of why you need it (AKA clay pidgeon shooting) you need to prove that you have a secure place to keep it, your own propertry (so you need to be wealthy). You also need a written testament from a priest of Laywer who can vouch for you personally, and you need to be able to afford one, and they can cost fucking shitloads.

I knew someone who owned his own detached house, he was an ex serviceman, which one adult child, a wife, a brick wall around his whole property and a 6foot high iron gate with CCTV. He was denied on safety grounds.

The more times you apply the less likely you are to get one.



It is your right, in the English bill of rights, that you may own said firearms.There is no such thing as an English (Or even a Brittish one which is probably what you meant) Bill of rights.


Every worker should have a gun to defend from tyranny and abuse.I agree entirely, however I'm not sure where you got your facts from. Or maybe its a good old fashioned case of the facts and the reality not matching up, because I'm telling you I would own a gun if I could.

Dick Gaughan
22nd June 2010, 13:43
well, i know a guy who lives in a block of flats, has a steel cabinet and lock, he has two rifles.

You need to people to vouch for you, but they can be anyone who is not a relative.

You can have one for hunting, member of a gun club and range.

It is quite easy to get one.

Dick Gaughan
22nd June 2010, 13:44
and in 1869, the english bill of rights did state what i said, and it is still in law today, i think you will find

i cannot post links but if i could i would send you the info mate

Forward Union
22nd June 2010, 13:58
and in 1869, the english bill of rights did state what i said, and it is still in law today, i think you will find

i cannot post links but if i could i would send you the info mate

ah ok, if you can send me them in a PM I'd appreciate it. Also, ignoring the right wing angle (The whole fox hunting bit at the start and Tony Martin sympathy) of this piece there are some interesting and true aspects to this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec

also http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle551-20100103-03.html

The Guy
22nd June 2010, 14:15
If you're even going to think of owning a gun, prepare for months of paper work and legal ties.

Anyway, the English Bill of Rights (1689), which still continued to serve any Englishman today, consists of the following rights:


Freedom from royal interference with the law. Though the sovereign remains the fount of justice, he or she cannot unilaterally establish new courts or act as a judge.
Freedom from taxation by Royal Prerogative. The agreement of parliament became necessary for the implementation of any new taxes.
Freedom to petition the monarch.
Freedom from the standing army during a time of peace. The agreement of parliament became necessary before the army could be moved against the populace when not at war.
Freedom for Protestants to have arms for their own defence, as suitable to their class and as allowed by law.
Freedom to elect members of parliament without interference from the sovereign.
Freedom of speech and debates; or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament.

Source: Wikipedia

Dick Gaughan
22nd June 2010, 14:22
Freedom for Protestants to have arms for their own defence, as suitable to their class and as allowed by law.

to defend from the evil fenian killers no doubt :)

plus to stop the invading fox hordes, coming to violate my mildred, flicking the vs at me

Dick Gaughan
22nd June 2010, 14:24
it wont let me send you a pm or visitor message Union, send me one and i will reply to you