Al Qaeda Lays Out Conditions for Peace With U.S.

[GreenCommunism]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/20/world/main6600048.shtml?tag=channelMore;pop

Al Qaeda's American-born spokesman has repeated the terror group's conditions for peace with America in a video released Sunday.

Adam Gadahn called on President Barack Obama to withdraw his troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, end support for Israel, stop intervening in the affairs of Muslims, and free Muslim prisoners.

In the second, 24-minute part of a video released in March and posted on militant websites Sunday, Gadahn said the Democrats' loss in January of the Massachusetts Senate seat underlined Mr. Obama's falling popularity.

In white robes and turban, Gadahn told Mr. Obama: "You're no longer the popular man you once were, a year ago or so."

Gadahn is wanted by the FBI since 2004, with a $1 million reward for information leading to his arrest or conviction.

He is also known as Azzam al-Amriki, Arabic for American.

first thing that got to my mind is... no mass conversion? they sure are magnamous. also all muslim prisoners? or all muslim prisoners who are convicted of terrorism?

it feels like al-qaeda is not as bad as i thought. if it even exists.

[The Fighting_Crusnik]

hmm... one has to wonder if they would keep their word... tbh, I don't remember a time when we gave them the chance to... so in other words, following through with this (which we won't) may or may not work for peace... either way, I think the majority of Americans would be pissed as hell to give up on Israel because of the social, political and cultural ties to that nation.

[Dimentio]

Al-Qaeda is not in a position to offer peace, especially since it isn't an organisation but a brand. I doubt the AQ cells in North Africa and Iraq are taking orders from Pakistan.

Moreover, in practice, Al-Qaeda has mostly attacked other muslims and almost caused a civil war in Iraq.

[GreenCommunism]

al-qaeda in iraq sounds like a huge PR operations by the united states. but whatever. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=994

i am not sure this site is full of shit though.

also that al-qaeda is in a position to ask for peace or not (bargaining with an upper hand) is irrelevant, this is mostly Al-Qaeda PR stunt to show that muslims are peace seeking or whatever. please tell us if this ever appears in the news and how it is portrayed.

[Catillina]

Well they should end the wars anyways. Also stop the military aid for israel.

[GreenCommunism]

Well they should end the wars anyways. Also stop the military aid for israel.

yes communist around the world should tell their respective government that they agree with al-qaeda.

[Wanted Man]

This is not really news.

[The Vegan Marxist]

The one thing most people need to first understand about Al-Qaeda was how they were brought about in the first place. Everyone knows Bin Laden's training with the CIA & US State Intelligence. Al-Qaeda was funded & trained by the US military. That's when Al-Qaeda went rouge & turned the gun the other way around.

[Spawn of Stalin]

Al Qaeda groups are horribly reactionary, but these "demands" are more than reasonable.

[Robocommie]

yes communist around the world should tell their respective government that they agree with al-qaeda.

I'm not sure if this is serious or a masterpiece of sarcastic humor. :lol:

[The Vegan Marxist]

I'm not sure if this is serious or a masterpiece of sarcastic humor. :lol:

I think it's a bit of both lol.

[GreenCommunism]

This is not really news.
how old is it? i though there was another time that they asked the usa to convert to islam, that was sort of irrational to ask.

[Adi Shankara]

What seems to be missing here is the fact that, even if they were to offer peace and stability in the middle east, the USA would refuse it, because then they'd have no motive to offer the public as to why they need to continue their aggressive expansionist campaigns.

[The Red Next Door]

I really doubt that people in this country, want to make peace with them after this stunt








http://www.iecclesia.com/archives/episode52/wtc-9-11.jpg

[Leo]

On another point, seeing this thread I watched a part of the actual video of the guy saying this after , and it was absolutely hilarious, it was so comical. It was like watching an everyday politician on CNN or something, talking about his parties position on this or that, but with the robes and beard and everything.

[scarletghoul]

Moreover, in practice, Al-Qaeda has mostly attacked other muslims and almost caused a civil war in Iraq.
I'm sorry what. I'm pretty sure someone else is to blame for the violence in Iraq...

Al Qaeda are just a symptom of the problems caused by Amerikan imperialism-capitalism. Seriously, blaming them for the bloodbath in Iraq is pretty weird for a leftist.

Their demands are, of course, completely justified and any decent human being would agree with them. However their methods are not good so theyre obviously reactionary. Still, all this death and terror is down to the USA. Al Qaeda is shit but theyre not the root cause

[freepalestine]

On another point, seeing this thread I watched a part of the actual video of the guy saying this after , and it was absolutely hilarious, it was so comical. It was like watching an everyday politician on CNN or something, talking about his parties position on this or that, but with the robes and beard and everything.if alqaeda-taleban.did as the u.s. said-paid their dues, theyd be treat like saudiarabia

[freepalestine]

hmm... one has to wonder if they would keep their word... tbh, I don't remember a time when we gave them the chance to... so in other words, following through with this (which we won't) may or may not work for peace... either way, I think the majority of Americans would be pissed as hell to give up on Israel because of the social, political and cultural ties to that nation. youre anarchistmarxist?with a post like that you dont sound like it.

[GreenCommunism]

what's unanarchist on that post. you sound pretty damn pro-imperialism, what is the taliban al-qaeda's dues?

[Leo]

if alqaeda-taleban.did as the u.s. said-paid their dues, theyd be treat like saudiarabia

Of course both the Al Qaeda and Taleban were founded by the US in the first place.

[khad]

I really doubt that people in this country, want to make peace with them after this stunt

I doubt the rest of the world would want to make peace with the US after thousands of stunts like this.

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/data/upimages/korenga_valley_afghanistan_killed_by_us.jpg

[Adi Shankara]

I doubt the rest of the world would want to make peace with the US after thousands of stunts like this.

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/data/upimages/korenga_valley_afghanistan_killed_by_us.jpg

lol peace? the USA's idea of peace is "after we bomb you out of the sky, sign this treaty for show, as we replace your democratically elected leader with one of our goons, then pretend to be independent so detractors can't claim we're a colonial empire"

[Spirit of Spartacus]

Moreover, in practice, Al-Qaeda has mostly attacked other muslims and almost caused a civil war in Iraq.


Huh? :confused:

Al-Qaeda in Iraq basically consists of a few hundred operatives. The US military and its allies consist of thousands of troops on the ground.

While its correct to say that Al-Qaeda has, in practice, caused more deaths among Muslims than among those it considers "infidels", you have to remember that its just wrong to make a statement like "Al-Qaeda almost caused a civil war in Iraq".

It was US imperialism and its stupid policies and its naked aggression and its classic strategem of "divide and rule" which almost caused a civil war in Iraq. And the nightmare is far from over.

We all agree that Al-Qaeda is not the answer to US imperialism, but please, lets not repeat imperialist propaganda so easily.

[Adi Shankara]

Technically, Al-Qaeda doesn't even exist--there is no formal structure of Al Qaeda, anymore than there is a formal structure for "communist guerrilla" (in fact, in Arabic, "Al-Qaeda" means "The Base"--because all of these names were on a computer database at one point as being friendly operatives who'd be willing to fight the Soviet invasion of the Middle East)

[t.shonku]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/20/world/main6600048.shtml?tag=channelMore;pop


first thing that got to my mind is... no mass conversion? they sure are magnamous. also all muslim prisoners? or all muslim prisoners who are convicted of terrorism?

it feels like al-qaeda is not as bad as i thought. if it even exists.

It seems like Al-Qaeda is becoming rational,it's a good sign that they have not spoken about mass conversion and have made very legitimate demands.

[Andropov]

also that al-qaeda is in a position to ask for peace or not (bargaining with an upper hand) is irrelevant, this is mostly Al-Qaeda PR stunt to show that muslims are peace seeking or whatever. please tell us if this ever appears in the news and how it is portrayed.
Since when was Al-Qaeda representative of Muslims?
Call me old fashioned but I think the responsibility for demonstrating how peace seeking one is lies with the aggressor and Imperialist, as in Western Imperialism.
Your thinly veiled support for Western Imperialism is quite evident.