International Transport Workers’ Federation Condemns Arrests in Iran

[The Vegan Marxist]

International Transport Workers’ Federation Condemns Arrests of Bus Union Committee Members in Iran
17 June 2010

The ITF has denounced (http://www.itfglobal.org/news-online/index.cfm/newsdetail/4619) the reported arrest of yet two further members of the Sandikaye Kargarane Sherkate Vahed, the Tehran bus workers’ union in Iran.

It is understood that Saeed Torabian and Reza Shahbi, both committee members of the union were arrested last week by Iranian security forces and are being held at an unknown location. It is also believed that around seven other trade unionists have been detained since April 2010. Mansour Osanloo and Ebrahim Madadi of the Tehran bus workers’ union have both been in prison since 2007.

In a letter dated 10 June to Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, ITF general secretary David Cockroft said: “We once again reiterate that the carrying out of normal trade union duties is not an arrestable offence and should never be the grounds for the detention of Saeed Torabian, of Mansour Osanloo, or anyone else. We therefore request that you once again intervene in this process, remedy this situation, and also assure the good health and safety of Mansour Osanloo, who remains unjustly imprisoned.”

On 11 June, national secretary of the ITF-affiliated Maritime Union of Australia Paddy Crumlin also wrote to Ahmadinejad, stating: “In Australia we have visited some of your maritime fleet trading as the ‘Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines (IRISL Group)’.

“Our members along with the Australian trade union movement find it increasingly difficult to justify any level of cooperation with these ships or with trade to Iran in general.”

Unions have carried out protest actions in response to this latest attack on workers’ rights in Iran, among them a joint demonstration in Jakarta, Indonesia, by the seafarers’ and teachers’ unions as well as a rally in Oslo, Norway.

The ITF is calling on affiliates to send letters of protest to the Iranian government and to organise further activities to show solidarity with Iranian unionists. For more information visit: http://www.justiceforiranianworkers.org/ (http://www.justiceforiranianworkers.org/)

To view a demonstration on human rights for Iranian workers, which took place in Johannesburg, South Africa, at the opening of the World Cup football championships, visit: http://www.youtube.com/user/12JuneJoburgNop/a/u/0/W6daHJnqQaI (http://www.youtube.com/user/12JuneJoburgNop/a/u/0/W6daHJnqQaI)

http://iranlaborreport.com/?p=938

[IslamicMarxist]

Pathetic. What kind of Revolutionary marxist are you. Lenin would spit on this garbage. You agreed that the US sponsered color revolutions in marxist states were BS so what makes you think this green revolution failure attempt will be any different? The greens want to make Iran privatized. Yeah, your so right, the Western Media Lies about Marxist nations, but they tell the truth about Iran? HA!

[Crux]

The iranian capitalist regime recently cracked down on trade unionists and oppose democvratic and worker's rights in general. The question arises, what kind of marxist are you?

[IslamicMarxist]

The iranian capitalist regime recently cracked down on trade unionists and oppose democvratic and worker's rights in general. The question arises, what kind of marxist are you?

Oh yeah. What is your evidence? Western Media? Exactly. A true Revolutionary would question everything. I'm not against reforms in Iran. But a total regime change is ridiculous. Iran's governments bashes capitalism alot, so what makes you think they are capitalists?

[danyboy27]

Oh yeah. What is your evidence? Western Media? Exactly. A true Revolutionary would question everything. I'm not against reforms in Iran. But a total regime change is ridiculous. Iran's governments bashes capitalism alot, so what makes you think they are capitalists?

no. the iranian economic system is capitalistic in Nature. for capitalism to exist, you need currency, accumulation of wealth, and class supremacy.

in iran you have all those things!

[Crux]

Oh yeah. What is your evidence? Western Media? Exactly. A true Revolutionary would question everything. I'm not against reforms in Iran. But a total regime change is ridiculous. Iran's governments bashes capitalism alot, so what makes you think they are capitalists?
No, it is not. My evidence is reports from the underground worker's and trade union movement in Iran, like the Bus Worker's Union and Haf Tapeh worker's. No reform is possible under this regime. What makes you think the Iranian regime is not capitalist?
http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/4336

[Crux]

We can oppose the capitalist exploitation of workers by the Iranian state, while supporting its right to defend itself with nuclear weapons against imperialism. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Then why is it you never ever highglight the ongoing worker's struggle against the regime and dismiss the enitre movement as "bourgeois"? And do tell me how nuclear war would serve the international working class.

[the last donut of the night]

A true Revolutionary would question everything.

Your sig contains the following phrase: "I say Islam for the Ummah, Marxism for the world."

Guess you did a lot of questioning in your heyday...

Stop defending capitalist, theocratic governments.

[thomasludd]

Oh yeah. What is your evidence? Western Media? Exactly. A true Revolutionary would question everything. I'm not against reforms in Iran. But a total regime change is ridiculous. Iran's governments bashes capitalism alot, so what makes you think they are capitalists?

Then what do you propose? Convince the theocratic regime to just make them do some pro-worker reforms and everything's ok? What about other issues like women's rights? LGBT rights?

I'm not really alone in saying that any theocratic (Abrahamic religions) regime is essentially full of discrimination.

And Iran's government does not bash capitalism per se, it only bashes capitalism as promoted by the West.

[IslamicMarxist]

no. the iranian economic system is capitalistic in Nature. for capitalism to exist, you need currency, accumulation of wealth, and class supremacy.

in iran you have all those things!

The Soviets in it's early days, cuba, every communist nation had a currency. In Iran, the government outlawed discrimination against poor. We must face it, in every society there was a poor people. It just depends on how you support them. Besides, in Iran, the wealthy are the ones who are anti government. Why don't you research how Mousavi lives and how Ahmadinejad lives. You will be surprised.

[Crux]

The Soviets in it's early days, cuba, every communist nation had a currency. In Iran, the government outlawed discrimination against poor. We must face it, in every society there was a poor people. It just depends on how you support them. Besides, in Iran, the wealthy are the ones who are anti government. Why don't you research how Mousavi lives and how Ahmadinejad lives. You will be surprised.Mousavi is not anti-government. And the government is indeed backed by the wealthy. That is a faux argument to begin with. The regime attacks the working class and the poor, not capitalism.

[danyboy27]

The Soviets in it's early days, cuba, every communist nation had a currency. In Iran, the government outlawed discrimination against poor. We must face it, in every society there was a poor people. It just depends on how you support them. Besides, in Iran, the wealthy are the ones who are anti government. Why don't you research how Mousavi lives and how Ahmadinejad lives. You will be surprised.
irrelevant, there where no communist nation established so far, the nation you listed never been communist.

the iranian governement have no interest of giving up its power to the people

[IslamicMarxist]

irrelevant, there where no communist nation established so far, the nation you listed never been communist.

the iranian governement have no interest of giving up its power to the people

Well those are the ones I support. You support nothing on earth, it just so happens your Ideal is right and every single one in the world is wrong. Good luck on life. No one is going to fight the way YOU tell them too.

The people in Iran have no interest in overthrowing their government. If they wanted to, it would be overthrown tomorrow. Western Media is all full of s*** and you're just a sheep they pray on. The world of Anti Imperialism is just going to keep on fighting and fighting, while you sit here in your chair and criticize them, they won't here you, they will just keep on fighting, while the third world cheers them on, the world is changing... Alot. There is nothing you can do to stop Cuba, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Venezuela, Maybe Turkey, there is nothing you can do, all you can do is talk.. While they actually MAKE differences, all you do is talk.

[danyboy27]

Well those are the ones I support. You support nothing on earth, it just so happens your Ideal is right and every single one in the world is wrong. Good luck on life. No one is going to fight the way YOU tell them too.

The people in Iran have no interest in overthrowing their government. If they wanted to, it would be overthrown tomorrow. Western Media is all full of s*** and you're just a sheep they pray on. The world of Anti Imperialism is just going to keep on fighting and fighting, while you sit here in your chair and criticize them, they won't here you, they will just keep on fighting, while the third world cheers them on, the world is changing... Alot. There is nothing you can do to stop Cuba, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Venezuela, Maybe Turkey, there is nothing you can do, all you can do is talk.. While they actually MAKE differences, all you do is talk.
yea all those big protest where only million of reactionaries who deserved to be beat up.

i might not have group i could relate too, but unlike you i am not a reactionary.

and what have YOU DONE FOR THOSE PEOPLE BTW....

[IslamicMarxist]

yea all those big protest where only million of reactionaries who deserved to be beat up.

i might not have group i could relate too, but unlike you i am not a reactionary.

and what have YOU DONE FOR THOSE PEOPLE BTW....

I've donated great amounts of money to people in Gaza, And I sent many useful things for them. I went to Lebanon after the war in 2006 to Help rebuild, and help families who lost their home. I may have not made a extremely huge difference, ALOT of Lebanon was destroyed, but I did what I could and I did that my best effort. Big protest? Made up of what? Royalists? Mousavi Losers? Just because not 100% of the population doesn't support the government doesn't mean it is a horrible state. I'm sure you'd be surprised about how many white army supporters their were in Russia, all were wealthy class. Same with Iran, all the Royalists and Green movement members are WEALTHY as hell. Of course someone who hasn't been there wouldn't know.

[danyboy27]

I've donated great amounts of money to people in Gaza, And I sent many useful things for them. I went to Lebanon after the war in 2006 to Help rebuild, and help families who lost their home. I may have not made a extremely huge difference, ALOT of Lebanon was destroyed, but I did what I could and I did that my best effort. Big protest? Made up of what? Royalists? Mousavi Losers? Just because not 100% of the population doesn't support the government doesn't mean it is a horrible state. I'm sure you'd be surprised about how many white army supporters their were in Russia, all were wealthy class. Same with Iran, all the Royalists and Green movement members are WEALTHY as hell. Of course someone who hasn't been there wouldn't know.

of course all those protester where rich bourgeois financed by the us governement...yes.. yes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FPJNvKRy0E

[IslamicMarxist]

of course all those protester where rich bourgeois financed by the us governement...yes.. yes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FPJNvKRy0E

All of that is garbage. I didn't say that they were financed by the U.S. government. Believe it or not, the Iranian National Socialist party and the Iranian Aryan pride movement are protesting too.

And that pathetic "protest" is NOTHING compared to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IRAN 30TH DECEMBER UNITY DEMONSTRATIONS, THE LARGEST IN THE HISTORY OF IRAN ITSELF(at the end of the video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyYSJKc8xfU

[Crux]

I've donated great amounts of money to people in Gaza, And I sent many useful things for them. I went to Lebanon after the war in 2006 to Help rebuild, and help families who lost their home. I may have not made a extremely huge difference, ALOT of Lebanon was destroyed, but I did what I could and I did that my best effort. Big protest? Made up of what? Royalists? Mousavi Losers? Just because not 100% of the population doesn't support the government doesn't mean it is a horrible state. I'm sure you'd be surprised about how many white army supporters their were in Russia, all were wealthy class. Same with Iran, all the Royalists and Green movement members are WEALTHY as hell. Of course someone who hasn't been there wouldn't know.
You must be very very naive, your mention of turkey pretty much says it all. The iranian government has a neoliberal policy which has skyrocketed unemployment and continues to attack and privatisize the public property that exists. I have already mentioned some worker's in struggle against the capitalist islamist regime, and the mass of those who have participated in protests in iran have been worker's and youth. Marg bar djomhorie eslami.

[IslamicMarxist]

You must be very very naive, your mention of turkey pretty much says it all. The iranian government has a neoliberal policy which has skyrocketed unemployment and continues to attack and privatisize the public property that exists. I have already mentioned some worker's in struggle against the capitalist islamist regime, and the mass of those who have participated in protests in iran have been worker's and youth. Marg bar djomhorie eslami.

You're somewhat wrong. First off, you can't be capitalist and islamist, you have to be one of two. Second, Mousavi is the one who wanted to privatize everything, Ahmadinejad wanted more public property. It has been made clear that the working class and poor side with Ahmadinejad. Because he is one of them. Mousavi lives like a rich man while Ahmadinejad lives in a House smaller than yours. Hell, Ahmadinejad is working class, in the presidential office, he cleans the floors with a mop and broom in the morning, packs lunches for everyone their. And it wasn't him who told us this, it was workers around the are who did. Ahmadinejad has the support of the poor class. This is common knowledge. And Iran's economy is not perfect right now, but neither was the Soviet economy in 1937(30 years after the revolution) and Iran's economy now is better than the Soviet economy's in 1937, so really, you are no one to judge. En less you have been to Iran and traveled like I have. And really, what do you do for the working class besides go on the computer and criticize things you cannot change through a keyboard.

[IslamicMarxist]

You must be very very naive, your mention of turkey pretty much says it all. The iranian government has a neoliberal policy which has skyrocketed unemployment and continues to attack and privatisize the public property that exists. I have already mentioned some worker's in struggle against the capitalist islamist regime, and the mass of those who have participated in protests in iran have been worker's and youth. Marg bar djomhorie eslami.

"The reason why Ahmadinejad might have really won the election – by something like the 2-to-1 margin in the official tallies – was that his support was concentrated among the urban and rural poor who benefited from government food giveaways and jobs programs and who tend to listen more to conservative clerics in the mosques."

This is common knowledge. This was even on Western Media!

[Crux]

You're somewhat wrong. First off, you can't be capitalist and islamist, you have to be one of two. Second, Mousavi is the one who wanted to privatize everything, Ahmadinejad wanted more public property. It has been made clear that the working class and poor side with Ahmadinejad. Because he is one of them. Mousavi lives like a rich man while Ahmadinejad lives in a House smaller than yours.
Plenty are. Being an islamist and marxist though ought to be far more contradictory. I did not say "want to" I said they are doing. Perhaps you ought to look into the iranian regimes neo-liberal economic policies (and before you go there, no that's not something brought up by western media, for obvious reasons). In a house smaller than mine? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.