The Vegan Marxist
21st June 2010, 05:30
As a proud atheist & scientific thinker I've been attacked continuously by the far-right religious believers. Though, the ideals of the right-winged religious beliefs do not frighten me, nor do I truly care what these people believe, for their nonsense & illogical way of thinking can be easily pointed out & is beginning to become, what many other religious beliefs have become, myths. But what does scare me are the religious beliefs of the far-left.
Although I am humbled to see that people within the Vatican are now starting to believe that science is the way of answering things & that the bible is merely a book of pure metaphor, I cringe at the notion that God & science play hand-n-hand. You know who I'm talking about, because we're all acquainted to someone that believes that both God & evolution coexists. Again, I'm glad to see that the religious believers are now realizing that evolution is absolute fact & not just a theory anymore, but what they're doing is allowing the nut-cased believers to barge in & take in strength by passing out a false notion that both evolution & God can exist at the same time.
This 'christian-science' is growing in numbers, & is leaving the far-right far away. It is clear that they realize that science is the answer, so why do they continue to believe in something that is quite detrimental to scientific thinking? Well, one of their main reasons, for this has been the most overused reason out of any other that they've come up with, is that atheism is just not logical thinking. You can tell by this comment that the God-believers are trying to bring in the notion that they are now more superior to modern-day scientists because they believe, in some way or another, that they are truly open-minded & that scientists, since the vast majority of scientists today are atheists, are merely one-sided in their beliefs. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Many of us have been in debates against the religious believers. We know their counter-arguments. Though, one that sticks out the most is the claim that, 'well, you're right that there is no evidence to prove in God's existence, but there's no evidence to prove that God DOESN'T exist either. So to be an atheist, you have to have just as much faith, if not more, as a christian does'. I'm sure this has popped up at least once in your debates, & really it is a good counter-argument because they're right to an extent that both christians & atheists give out a certain input of 'faith' in a belief. But, are we talking about the same faith here?
I would argue with no! When christians, or any other type of religious believer, talk about faith, they are talking about the blind belief that there is something or someone out there that they cannot see nor rationally justify any evidence that he/she/it even exists. Though, when we dwell upon the 'faith-based' ideas of atheism, you begin to realize that we are not talking about the same faith, nor do we see, as they see, that atheism is illogical. Yes, we do not believe that God exists, & yes, we do not have any 'evidence' to prove that s/he isn't there. But let me ask you this one question, can one really provide any evidence that proves that something DOESN'T exist ever? How could you? And so, since there is no evidence to both the belief in a God or the belief that there isn't a God, we must then ask ourselves the next best question - which is more logical? I can't help but laugh when I hear someone make the comment that they'd rather believe just in case it is true so that they don't go to hell. It's bad enough people gamble in Vegas & lose all their fortunes, but now people are gambling with fact & fiction, despite the inability of fiction providing anything towards one’s life except maybe a 'comfort-zone'. So, again, what is more logical, atheism or religion?
Well, what is the argument against the idea that atheistic belief is logical? Because they have no evidence to support the idea that there isn't a God, but if that's their argument, then wouldn't that make the idea of there being a God just as illogical as an atheist’s belief since none of them can be supported by actual evidence? So, let's look at why atheism has the upper hand when it comes to logical thinking. I will do this through an analogical question. Will the sun rise up tomorrow morning? Many will say yes, but why? Well, since every morning beforehand, they've witnessed the sun rising up, so they've come to be rationally & justifiably positive that the sun will rise up the next morning because it has every other morning. This goes hand-n-hand with atheistic belief. Since I have never heard, felt, nor seen this mythological being called God, then I am rationally & justifiably positive that there isn't one. This type of rational thinking is not present through the belief that there is a God, which is why the 'two-faiths' are not within comparison at all. For one bases itself upon blind-faith, while the other is developed under rational-based-faith.
So, when you find yourself in a debate, or merely just an argument that you got yourself into with a God-believer, & s/he makes such erroneous statements, simply ask them the question 'Will the sun rise up tomorrow?' As a scientific thinker, I cannot betray my mind by believing in myths like God or Jesus. What I'm trying to do is open your minds up & help you realize why it is not wrong to be an atheist & why it is not illogical to be an atheistic thinker. To become an atheist, one has to dwell through such open-minded thinking that it becomes something of a journey from then to now. As a once devout-christian, I am proud to say that I am an atheist, & I am proud to believe that when I die I will not go to heaven nor hell, but merely seize to exist, for then I will truly have lived my life & there will be nothing else like it.
"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother, and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine." ~Charles Darwin
Red Love & Salutes!
Although I am humbled to see that people within the Vatican are now starting to believe that science is the way of answering things & that the bible is merely a book of pure metaphor, I cringe at the notion that God & science play hand-n-hand. You know who I'm talking about, because we're all acquainted to someone that believes that both God & evolution coexists. Again, I'm glad to see that the religious believers are now realizing that evolution is absolute fact & not just a theory anymore, but what they're doing is allowing the nut-cased believers to barge in & take in strength by passing out a false notion that both evolution & God can exist at the same time.
This 'christian-science' is growing in numbers, & is leaving the far-right far away. It is clear that they realize that science is the answer, so why do they continue to believe in something that is quite detrimental to scientific thinking? Well, one of their main reasons, for this has been the most overused reason out of any other that they've come up with, is that atheism is just not logical thinking. You can tell by this comment that the God-believers are trying to bring in the notion that they are now more superior to modern-day scientists because they believe, in some way or another, that they are truly open-minded & that scientists, since the vast majority of scientists today are atheists, are merely one-sided in their beliefs. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Many of us have been in debates against the religious believers. We know their counter-arguments. Though, one that sticks out the most is the claim that, 'well, you're right that there is no evidence to prove in God's existence, but there's no evidence to prove that God DOESN'T exist either. So to be an atheist, you have to have just as much faith, if not more, as a christian does'. I'm sure this has popped up at least once in your debates, & really it is a good counter-argument because they're right to an extent that both christians & atheists give out a certain input of 'faith' in a belief. But, are we talking about the same faith here?
I would argue with no! When christians, or any other type of religious believer, talk about faith, they are talking about the blind belief that there is something or someone out there that they cannot see nor rationally justify any evidence that he/she/it even exists. Though, when we dwell upon the 'faith-based' ideas of atheism, you begin to realize that we are not talking about the same faith, nor do we see, as they see, that atheism is illogical. Yes, we do not believe that God exists, & yes, we do not have any 'evidence' to prove that s/he isn't there. But let me ask you this one question, can one really provide any evidence that proves that something DOESN'T exist ever? How could you? And so, since there is no evidence to both the belief in a God or the belief that there isn't a God, we must then ask ourselves the next best question - which is more logical? I can't help but laugh when I hear someone make the comment that they'd rather believe just in case it is true so that they don't go to hell. It's bad enough people gamble in Vegas & lose all their fortunes, but now people are gambling with fact & fiction, despite the inability of fiction providing anything towards one’s life except maybe a 'comfort-zone'. So, again, what is more logical, atheism or religion?
Well, what is the argument against the idea that atheistic belief is logical? Because they have no evidence to support the idea that there isn't a God, but if that's their argument, then wouldn't that make the idea of there being a God just as illogical as an atheist’s belief since none of them can be supported by actual evidence? So, let's look at why atheism has the upper hand when it comes to logical thinking. I will do this through an analogical question. Will the sun rise up tomorrow morning? Many will say yes, but why? Well, since every morning beforehand, they've witnessed the sun rising up, so they've come to be rationally & justifiably positive that the sun will rise up the next morning because it has every other morning. This goes hand-n-hand with atheistic belief. Since I have never heard, felt, nor seen this mythological being called God, then I am rationally & justifiably positive that there isn't one. This type of rational thinking is not present through the belief that there is a God, which is why the 'two-faiths' are not within comparison at all. For one bases itself upon blind-faith, while the other is developed under rational-based-faith.
So, when you find yourself in a debate, or merely just an argument that you got yourself into with a God-believer, & s/he makes such erroneous statements, simply ask them the question 'Will the sun rise up tomorrow?' As a scientific thinker, I cannot betray my mind by believing in myths like God or Jesus. What I'm trying to do is open your minds up & help you realize why it is not wrong to be an atheist & why it is not illogical to be an atheistic thinker. To become an atheist, one has to dwell through such open-minded thinking that it becomes something of a journey from then to now. As a once devout-christian, I am proud to say that I am an atheist, & I am proud to believe that when I die I will not go to heaven nor hell, but merely seize to exist, for then I will truly have lived my life & there will be nothing else like it.
"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother, and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine." ~Charles Darwin
Red Love & Salutes!