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KlownBaby19
5th June 2010, 05:57
i live about 20 minutes from this town and i used to love the town till this shit happened. I think something should be done to stop this

PRESCOTT, Ariz. (AP) — A new mural at Miller Valley Elementary School that depicts children of several races using "green" transportation methods appears to have struck a nerve among some Prescott residents.
Since the late-May unveiling of the "Go on Green" mural, dozens of local residents have expressed their views — both pro and con — about the painting that covers two exterior walls at the school at Prescott's Four-Points intersection.
An article about the unveiling on The Daily Courier's website generated about 60 online reader comments, while Prescott Unified School District and Prescott City Hall reported getting calls.
Although many of the comments on the Courier's website offer unqualified admiration for the mural, others are harshly critical, using words such as "tacky," ''ugly" and "ghetto."
The subtext in some of the comments: race.
R.E. Wall, director of the Prescott Downtown Mural Project, described weeks of tense working conditions for the "Mural Mice," the group of artists responsible for the Miller Valley mural and several others around town.
As the Miller Valley mural took shape, Wall said, he and the other artists working at the site heard regular racial slurs from the passengers of cars driving by.
"The pressure stayed up consistently," Wall said. "We had two months of cars shouting at us."
He attributes the start of the racial controversy to recent comments that Prescott City Councilman Steve Blair made on his KYCA radio talk show about the mural.
On his May 21 show, for instance, Blair said, "I am not a racist individual, but I will tell you depicting a black guy in the middle of that mural, based upon who's president of the United States today and based upon the history of this community when I grew up, we had four black families — who I have been very good friends with for years — to depict the biggest picture on that building as a black person, I would have to ask the question, 'Why?'"
On Wednesday, Blair again emphasized that "I'm not a racist by any stretch of the imagination, but whenever people start talking about diversity, it's a word I can't stand."
Blair questions whether the mural is representative of Prescott, noting, "The focus doesn't need to be on what's different; the focus doesn't need to be on the minority all the time."
Blair said he has received a number of calls from long-time Prescott residents who ask, "Who authorized that graffiti on the wall?" He added: "What these people don't like is somebody forcing diversity down their throats."
Wall said that the "pressure" reached such a level this past week that his group has been asked to lighten the faces of the mural's main subject, as well as the other children in the mural.
"They want us to lighten up the forehead and the cheeks (of the boy in the center), and make him look like he is coming into the light," Wall said, adding that school officials asked to have all of the children's faces appear more "radiant and happy."
That work began this past Sunday, when Wall and co-artist Pamela Smith began lightening up a portion of the boy's forehead. The work will continue during the next several days.
Blair said that even though he believes the Mural Mice are "truly artists," and that their other murals have been successful, "Art is in the eye of the beholder, but I say (the Miller Valley mural) looks like graffiti in L.A."
He also questions the choice of location for the mural. "From my standpoint, it's the most visible intersection in the City of Prescott, and one of the most historic buildings, and they're painting a mural on it?"
In addition, Blair suggested that the mural creators might not have made a good enough case in their storytelling for the mural. "I don't see anything that ties the community into that mural," he said.

Universal Struggle
5th June 2010, 11:36
Part of me is outraged, but, from a non racist outlook, if there were like 1 thousand white kids, and two black kids, why would they put the black kids face as the biggest, if its a rightwing place, your just asking for racial animosity.

That said, if honkey wanna ball on me, i do the funki funki on his ass.

Race in America is a devisive isue, because its full of racist white nazi fucktoids, who forget, they are european immigrants and not native to North america,

But it is getting a lil better.

No signs saying

No Dogs
No Blacks
No Jews

The jews must be angry as fuck, they are always scapegoats and oppressed, so the Fascists now accuse them of running the world lol.

GreenCommunism
5th June 2010, 14:04
jews never ruled the world before communism.

28350
5th June 2010, 16:36
Can we get a picture?


jews never ruled the world before communism.
Jews never ruled the world.

KC
5th June 2010, 17:40
From another forum on which I post:


Hahaha, ok ok I can end any kind of debate over this before it even starts. I lived in Prescott Arizona for the last 4 years, I've been going to college there since 2006. I've driven by this thing and let me tell you it looks weird as hell from the street, and honestly the kids face was too dark because of the shade over the upper part of the painting and the kid's very bright eyes. So when you drove past it would kinda look like two bright eyes coming out of a very dark and almost "evil" looking face, it also kind of looked like "blackface," either way it honestly looked weird as hell and just seemed like bad art.

As for the people shouting racial slurs, well I could see that happening among some of those individuals. Prescott, and nearby Prescott Valley and Chino, have some serious red-neckitude among some individuals.Also, here's some photos (http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=99&SubSectionID=1212).

I highly doubt this is racially motivated.

http://www.dcourier.com/SiteImages/PGallery/984719346.jpg

http://www.dcourier.com/SiteImages/PGallery/984719344.jpg

God damn that is creepy.

GreenCommunism
5th June 2010, 20:00
Jews never ruled the world.

doh, i mean i don't think there was any world domination crap going on before communism. i may be wrong.

28350
5th June 2010, 20:59
doh, i mean i don't think there was any world domination crap going on before communism. i may be wrong.
You mean there were no conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world? Because there were.
Or do you mean that Jews now have a larger geopolitical influence then they did then?

And that first picture looks like an Olmec head.
http://www.ccsf.edu/Library/exhibits/olmec1.jpg

GreenCommunism
5th June 2010, 23:55
You mean there were no conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world? Because there were.

yeah, well i think there were conspiracy theory about owning the banks and the media, as well as selling guns to both sides during a war. or getting 2 country to fight each other and loaning money to both. i don't think there was any conspiracy that they rule the world. the protocols of sion was exactly anti-communist and said that this is how jews will rule the world.

Agnapostate
6th June 2010, 00:57
And that first picture looks like an Olmec head.

Well, I don't blame the guy for not being able to distinguish between Indian and black if it's like that. I remember one Yahoo News editorial being so hissy about how the student was Latino and it was so disgusting that he was mistaken as black. I mean, damn, go to Haiti!

aziraphale
7th June 2010, 18:59
Dear Spaghetti Monster, Arizona has gone bat shit bonkers when it comes to race. O.o Sheriff Arpaoi, Juan Crow and now this.

counterblast
8th June 2010, 04:46
I'm not racist, I have Black friends!

counterblast
8th June 2010, 07:16
If there were like 1 thousand white kids, and two black kids, why would they put the black kids face as the biggest, if its a rightwing place, your just asking for racial animosity.


Tough shit.

If those people want to learn about having your communities controlled by a minority; they should come visit Detroit. We're demograpically 90% non-white, but controlled primarily by white people.

There is not a single white person who lives in my neighborhood -- the ONLY time I've ever seen a white person in my neighborhood besides the white friends I've invited over (many of whom feel "unsafe" in my neighborhood), is when there are police officers harassing me or one of my neighbors or when an angry landlord from the suburbs is coming to evict someone for unpaid rent.

And when I ride the bus to work every day, and there is not a single white person on the bus, but almost every advertisement on the bus contains at least one white person -- whether it be for a beauty product or a law office.

And when I get to work (at the downtown Detroit library), all of my superiors (administrators, head librarians, managers) are white people, except two. They all live either in the suburbs or recently moved to the gentrified strip of downtown within the last 5 years. All of my coworkers (librarian assistants/reshelvers, security guards, janitors, secretaries) and all of our patrons (except white tourists who want to take photographs of the "historic" building, so they can remember a "better", whiter Detroit) are Black or Brown.

My sympathy are with those Black kids who have to read about George Washington or Napoleon or even Marx every fucking day of their lives, not a couple of racist crackers who have to lend the spotlight to a (FICTIONAL) Black person for once in their life.

Racists need to stop whining about who has the biggest picture in a MULTIRACIAL mural, and check their fucking privlege as they drive/walk down the street past that mural. Just last month, one (Black) man on my block was incarcerated driving home from the hospital, for having a small amount of cocaine and marijuana. A (Brown) woman a block over was arrested for prostitution while walking home from a club on friday; and I got thrown to the ground and handcuffed while meeting a (white) friend at a bus stop; because the officer thought I was stealing his stuff, when I grabbed his bags to carry in as he politely insisted "Oh, no you don't have to carry them, I can get them". (When the police officer found out he was wrong, rather than apologizing; and looked frankly at my friend, as though I wasn't even there and said "You should be careful, I really didn't have any way of knowing... this sort of thing happens a lot here"


Also Universal, if the Black folks of Prescott, AZ were the victims of a hate crime, would you say they were "asking for it" for choosing to live in such a racist hellhole? I hope not. Victim blaming is utter nonsense.

Jimmie Higgins
8th June 2010, 13:35
From another forum on which I post:

I highly doubt this is racially motivated.

Really? What about the painters getting racial slurs yelled at them from a few passing motorists? What about the councilman with his right-wing talk show complaining that the biggest figures in the painting are black and Latino?

I don't know - sure maybe the intent of the touch-up was innocent on the part of the school administration and was unconnected, but there definitely seems to be racism involved in this whole situation.

For one thing, the images of the Arizona mural make it look about 20x better than the mural my high school had of it's mascot which was supposed to be a ram but looked like a sick rat with horns. There are lots of murals in my neighborhood (see Che below - Malcolm X is also kind of on this same mural, but I couldn't find an image of that) and while some of them are excellent a lot of them make this one look like a renaissance fresco (no offense to the artists, I'm all for public art and would love to see one, two, three, many more murals):

http://www.chespotting.com/wp-content/themes/tma/images/latest/che-spotting-19-oakland-california.jpg

http://oaklandcvb.com/images_x/mural.jpg

So considering that according to the Arizona Republic article, this school is the most diverse in the area while still predominantly white I'm thinking there is probably a bit of white flightiness because of these images and racial tension under the surface of this community already. If white suburban homeowners felt threatened by a mural on a local school featuring minority figures prominently ("OMG, people will think we live in a dangerous area" or "Oh no, property values - this used to be such a nice neighborhood until that black kid moved into that mural") I would not be too shocked.

Also, is this image below the "touched-up" version or the original? This figure seems pretty light skinned already unless that's just the photo quality.

http://www.dcourier.com/SiteImages/PGallery/984719346.jpg