Bilderberg Group

[InuyashaKnight]

These are the idiots behind the NWO bullshit they first met in 1954 are the of the Political and Economic Elite in the world today. These people come from Europe and North America. Its a secretive club and the western media rarely covers it. Closed meeting to the public and media. [link] (http://www.deviantart.com/users/outgoing?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group)

The media rarely covers this until Russia Today exposed this.

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Fuck the Bilderburg Group.

SAVE THE WORLD POWER TO THE PEOPLE

[Obs]

Russia Today is really a terrible news outlet.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I wouldn't get too caught up into the "NWO" conspiracy theory. Yes, such groups such as the Bilderbergers are a threat, but not because they're of some kind of elitist conspiracy to rule the world, but rather they're agents of finance. They're upholders to the capitalist system, & therefor, under Class War, they're a threat.

[Abyss Crown]

saying shit like this is a sure way to get a visit from the cops, you should edit this out ASAP.

More like the BPF (Bilderberg Policing Force).


Russia Today is really a terrible news outlet.

Eh, they have their moments.

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^yeah... :rolleyes:

[Yazman]

I wouldn't get too caught up into the "NWO" conspiracy theory. Yes, such groups such as the Bilderbergers are a threat, but not because they're of some kind of elitist conspiracy to rule the world, but rather they're agents of finance. They're upholders to the capitalist system, & therefor, under Class War, they're a threat.

They are a threat in the sense that they are agents of the ruling class, yes. It isn't really a conspiracy to rule the world but more an organisation for co-ordination and discussion of policy in private without media (or public) scrutiny, since every other forum they have is subject to said scrutiny.

I do appreciate the groups that organise protests at the Bilderberg Group meetings though.

On another note, I would like to remind all users that regardless of what you might think of a topic or an issue another user raises, it is never appropriate to make fun of them outside chit chat or PM, and you should be especially careful to never make posts consisting of just an image. Guerrilla, you better be careful in future - don't spam in here again. This counts as a verbal warning.

[Red Commissar]

I've seen this mentioned on western media recently, but mainly because Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has visited it, and Fox has a hard-on for him.

It's hardly a close-kept secret, though it is a despicable organization.

[Guerrilla22]

Please close this.

[Karl Marx AK47]

I wouldn't get too caught up into the "NWO" conspiracy theory. Yes, such groups such as the Bilderbergers are a threat, but not because they're of some kind of elitist conspiracy to rule the world, but rather they're agents of finance. They're upholders to the capitalist system, & therefor, under Class War, they're a threat.

The agents of finance were spawned in the trilateral commission. The Bilderberg is used more for NATO and military affairs. But your right, the core issue is the system that produces such monsters.

[InuyashaKnight]

Russia Today is really a terrible news outlet.


It's far better then the western fair of media.

[GreenCommunism]

The agents of finance were spawned in the trilateral commission. The Bilderberg is used more for NATO and military affairs. But your right, the core issue is the system that produces such monsters.
the thing about bilderberg is that their pseudo-religious ritual ( though all religious ritual are pseudo) are sort of creepy, which gives the impression of being a truly satanic cult controlling the world. by the way which hidden society is the most powerful? isn't it the trilateral?

[The Vegan Marxist]

the thing about bilderberg is that their pseudo-religious ritual ( though all religious ritual are pseudo) are sort of creepy, which gives the impression of being a truly satanic cult controlling the world. by the way which hidden society is the most powerful? isn't it the trilateral?

Too bad most of you don't even know what real Satanism is. Most people go by the christian oppositional myth of Satanism that they created, in which most demons deemed as so by them were once Pagan gods. lol I find myself lucky to have friends who are Satanists.

[GreenCommunism]

Too bad most of you don't even know what real Satanism is. Most people go by the christian oppositional myth of Satanism that they created, in which most demons deemed as so by them were once Pagan gods. lol I find myself lucky to have friends who are Satanists.

ah yes of course. i meant that people would interpret it as satanic. beside anything pagan is satanic, i was pointing out that the bilderberg have creepy rituals and that is a way to depict them as a sect of powerful people bent on world domination.

[The Vegan Marxist]

ah yes of course. i meant that people would interpret it as satanic. beside anything pagan is satanic, i was pointing out that the bilderberg have creepy rituals and that is a way to depict them as a sect of powerful people bent on world domination.

oh okay. yes, it does lead the ultra-religious to go stark-raving mad with religious conspiracy theories - Alex Jones cult.

[mlgb]

why would the people who run the world form a secret cabal to take over the world?

im not seeing the money here.

[GreenCommunism]

why would the people who run the world form a secret cabal to take over the world?

im not seeing the money here.
i find the bilderberg to be far too known to be a secret cabal ruling the world. the reason they would do this is because each of them (supposedly) has a religious oath to each other to help each other reach important positions. like in jfk's speech that a open democracy is wary of secret orders, secret oath and secret handshakes.

another reason would be to hide who is the real boss, just like criminal organisation usually have a few people near the top that take the presumed role of the gang leader while someone in the shadow is pulling all the strings.

i guess it could be that such people could be pushing views not accepted by the public. then again politicians are exactly like that.

[Yazman]

I think that we need to put aside the ideas of 'secret cabals' planning to 'rule the world.' While the Bilderberg Group is an organisation we need to look out for, I think it needs to be viewed the same way we view meetings such as G20 conferences, WTO negotiations, etc.

The primary difference is that this meeting is one that allows for discussion and negotiation without public or media scrutiny. Thats all.

[Karl Marx AK47]

I think that we need to put aside the ideas of 'secret cabals' planning to 'rule the world.' While the Bilderberg Group is an organisation we need to look out for, I think it needs to be viewed the same way we view meetings such as G20 conferences, WTO negotiations, etc.

The primary difference is that this meeting is one that allows for discussion and negotiation without public or media scrutiny. Thats all.

Marxists should invite the discussion as a wedge to open people up to revolutionary thinking. "Each one, Teach" is the moto for the Uhuru Quilters guild. The more we win over, the less we have to isolate as Lenin put it. Simply walking away is a betrayal according to Mao's 'Combat Liberalism'.

[Obs]

It's far better then the western fair of media.

He thinks Russian media is any less right-wing propaganda than Western media. :laugh:

[Dimentio]

These are the idiots behind the NWO bullshit they first met in 1954 are the of the Political and Economic Elite in the world today. These people come from Europe and North America. Its a secretive club and the western media rarely covers it. Closed meeting to the public and media. [link] (http://www.deviantart.com/users/outgoing?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group)


What I really, really hate about conspiracy theorists is that they have made legitimate criticism of the Bilderberg group impossible, since as soon as anyone is mentioning it, people immediately believes that its just a conspiraticist way of crying wolf. Instead of discussing what the Bilderberg group is doing, we should demand that the Bilderberg group shouldn't simply exist, because it is withholding information from the general public. No matter if they are plotting the destruction of the world, discussing business opportunities or having sexual orgies, they should do so under forms which at least adhere to their own constitutional limits. Public officials should not hang out with business lords in a manner which isn't moderated by media or the public.

[RadioRaheem84]

why is it so hard for people to believe that this group influences policy, though. They do not have to be explicitly discussing world domination but just policy and their bottom line. It's that simple.

Why cannot right wing jingoists see this as everyday normal behavior for the ruling class? Why do they think it's a nefarious plot to take down freedom loving capitalism?

But yes, the right wing loons have made it impossible to critique the Bilderberg Group and the CFR, and Tri-lateral commission, etc.

[RadioRaheem84]

Watch the movie The American Ruling Class by the Editor of Harpers Magazine, hardly an ardent right winger. An insider into the elite that run the US. Even he admits that the Council on Foreign Relations has a hand in influencing policy. I guess before the man died he decided to spill the beans on the cabal of elites that run the US.

[chegitz guevara]

So, wait, members of the ruling class get together and discuss things? Who knew?

[Dimentio]

why is it so hard for people to believe that this group influences policy, though. They do not have to be explicitly discussing world domination but just policy and their bottom line. It's that simple.

Why cannot right wing jingoists see this as everyday normal behavior for the ruling class? Why do they think it's a nefarious plot to take down freedom loving capitalism?

But yes, the right wing loons have made it impossible to critique the Bilderberg Group and the CFR, and Tri-lateral commission, etc.

Because for right-wing jingoists, their issue is not that the ruling class is reactionary, but that it is progressive compared to them. What is angering them are things like The Civil Rights Act, unions, LGBTQ issues and the UN.

[Yazman]

I would like to point everybody out to the attendence list of the Bilderberg Group's meeting for 2010:

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meeting_2010_2.html

[The Vegan Marxist]

As much as I hate Alex Jones & a lot of the garbage he publishes, he always tends to find himself correct on some issues about what's being talked about in the Bilderberg meetings. But only because he gets them from sources from within. And apparently there's talks of in the meeting on whether to initiate a green light for an attack on Iran. If Iran is attacked soon, I know where to point my finger at.

[Crusade]

I wouldn't get too caught up into the "NWO" conspiracy theory. Yes, such groups such as the Bilderbergers are a threat, but not because they're of some kind of elitist conspiracy to rule the world
How do you know they're not? Why is it not plausible that any group would attempt to do such a thing? Not to say that I've seen compelling evidence suggesting they ARE, but from what I've seen from people, it is completely possible that people would attempt to do some bullshit like that. So I wouldn't be so quick to write off the whole "global conspiracy" thing.

[The Vegan Marxist]

How do you know they're not? Why is it not plausible that any group would attempt to do such a thing? Not to say that I've seen compelling evidence suggesting they ARE, but from what I've seen from people, it is completely possible that people would attempt to do some bullshit like that. So I wouldn't be so quick to write off the whole "global conspiracy" thing.

Because I was part of that conspiracy theorist movement. I personally knew people like Alex Jones, Mark Dice, Paul Watson, etc. The accusations brought against these people, although were very convincing, never seemed to be substantiated under the ideal of wanting to rule the world, & rather instead implement polices that protected the status quo.

[Across The Street]

Celtic and Saxon peoples are the lost tribe of Israel? That is some ridiculous shit man. Ever heard of Emperor Selassie I? Ever heard of the tribe of Judah?
Anyway, I don't know where to begin with the rest of that post.

[Dimentio]

The Bilderberg Group is a front organization for the Re-Unified Communist International (which was an elitist subset of the Fourth International). Trotsky was an agent of the Society of Thule's Zionist wing and was on his way to becoming one of the Elders of Zion before he was assassinated by Harry Coil (who incidentally was one of the real JFK assassins). There are 23 members in the Thule inner council, 2 + 3 + 2 + 3 + 2 lost tribes of Israel (which are in fact the Celtic and Saxon peoples of the UK, Canada, Australia, the United States, and Ireland), 23 members on the Judencouncil which oversees the Jewish-Palestinian Gold Conspiracy and 5 leaders in the Bakuninist Anarchist Organization. The proposed Fifth International is actually a Satanic-Nationalist conspiracy under the control of the Order of Nine Angles and the Illuminati. Seriously if you're not in the know you should keep quiet. These groups don't need any more disinformation agents, especially ones that work for free.

I have two questions.

1. Are you serious?

2. If you are, what are you smoking? I want some of it!

[GreenCommunism]

dat guy is hilarious.

[Dimentio]

dat guy is hilarious.

If you guys don't sober up, this thread's going to be locked.

[GreenCommunism]

isn't there some identity group that says jesus was white and not jewish? or that the people of israel are white? dunno, just saying that's maybe what he means by the wandering tribes of israel.

[Dimentio]

Illuminatus spotted.

That is so true

Thread closed for one day

[Dimentio]

Thread reopened for now.

[Karl Marx AK47]

How do you know they're not? Why is it not plausible that any group would attempt to do such a thing? Not to say that I've seen compelling evidence suggesting they ARE, but from what I've seen from people, it is completely possible that people would attempt to do some bullshit like that. So I wouldn't be so quick to write off the whole "global conspiracy" thing.

Looking at only the byproducts of the capitalist system for change is doomed to failure.

What must also be understood is the capitalist system functions like an independent machine that would be near impossible to absolutely control because at the core are a great many number of contradictions that would limit what these people could do.

PART 1- wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=B7G4WIa-HAk

PART 2- wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=hJikG-p_nho

Also, the biblical mantra of making the last first and the first last is not at all revolutionary because it aims to low and doesn't add in the system that creates those conditions in the first place. Reparations would be no more revolutionary, but at least there is the solid argument of a class of people of color getting fucked by another class. Which leads me to wonder how well the question of reparations would hold with the NWO cult?

Reformism or even replacement of the monsters created in this global cabal would only recreate the conditions of concentrated wealth and the globalization of poverty from the hustle Marx called surplus value and capitalists call value added in manufacture.

That's the key to unlocking the doors beyond the cabal and objectively seeing what they have to work with and how we as a human species that are scientifically, biologically, and genetically identical build a better world for the collective betterment of all being. Becoming unfettered from the capitalist system will unleash the greatest human potential of all time.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

How do you know they're not? Why is it not plausible that any group would attempt to do such a thing? Not to say that I've seen compelling evidence suggesting they ARE, but from what I've seen from people, it is completely possible that people would attempt to do some bullshit like that. So I wouldn't be so quick to write off the whole "global conspiracy" thing.

Because they don't need a plot to rule the world. They already are the rulers of the world.

[bcbm]

The Bilderberg Group is a front organization for the Re-Unified Communist International (which was an elitist subset of the Fourth International). Trotsky was an agent of the Society of Thule's Zionist wing and was on his way to becoming one of the Elders of Zion before he was assassinated by Harry Coil (who incidentally was one of the real JFK assassins). There are 23 members in the Thule inner council, 2 + 3 + 2 + 3 + 2 lost tribes of Israel (which are in fact the Celtic and Saxon peoples of the UK, Canada, Australia, the United States, and Ireland), 23 members on the Judencouncil which oversees the Jewish-Palestinian Gold Conspiracy and 5 leaders in the Bakuninist Anarchist Organization. The proposed Fifth International is actually a Satanic-Nationalist conspiracy under the control of the Order of Nine Angles and the Illuminati. Seriously if you're not in the know you should keep quiet. These groups don't need any more disinformation agents, especially ones that work for free.

forgot to mention bohemian grove. -3

[ed miliband]

I know very little about this whole thing, and am not one for conspiracy theories, but look at this (atrocious) article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/jun/08/charlie-skelton-bilderberg-2010-delegates

The only thing I want to pick up on is this:

"I mean, no wonder the Bilderberg delegates are embarrassed. They're strategising to make the world a better place – who'd want to be seen doing that?"

That's sarcasm, right? It's quite hard to tell what the writer is trying to say...

That's all I really have to say on the matter.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Why the fuck is Bill Gates, microsoft monopolist, attending the Bilderberg meeting?

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More importantly, who the hell cares?

[The Vegan Marxist]

Well, the fact that austerity programs are being decided through these meetings, possible war green lights, etc. etc., & as people are trying to fight Class War, yeah, I would say everything that is happening matters to some extent.

[ed miliband]

I bet they just meet up and get really, really drunk on expensive booze.

[Dimentio]

More importantly, who the hell cares?

It is actually a matter of concern that politicians are meeting with powerful capitalists behind locked doors. Usually, suspicions of corruption could arise under such circumstances. It is also sending a signal that the capitalists openly are meaning more for the politicians than the common people.

[eyedrop]

It is actually a matter of concern that politicians are meeting with powerful capitalists behind locked doors. Usually, suspicions of corruption could arise under such circumstances. It is also sending a signal that the capitalists openly are meaning more for the politicians than the common people.
It's not like the politicians aren't openly colluding with capitalists anyway, I seem to remember them calling meetings with the "captains of industry" on how to deal with the financial crisis.

They don't really need secret cabals to do what they can do out in the open.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

It is actually a matter of concern that politicians are meeting with powerful capitalists behind locked doors. Usually, suspicions of corruption could arise under such circumstances. It is also sending a signal that the capitalists openly are meaning more for the politicians than the common people.

This is all true, but is anyone really surprised that capitalism is corruption and bribery and collusion between capital and the bourgeoisie politics? Nevertheless, it certainly is repugnant to see them go about this sort of thing; but really, they have these "secret" meetings behind locked doors all the time. With or without their revolting Bilderberg meets they work together with their common interest; one the parasite and the other the pacifier.

[Dimentio]

This is all true, but is anyone really surprised that capitalism is corruption and bribery and collusion between capital and the bourgeoisie politics? Nevertheless, it certainly is repugnant to see them go about this sort of thing; but really, they have these "secret" meetings behind locked doors all the time. With or without their revolting Bilderberg meets they work together with their common interest; one the parasite and the other the pacifier.

The Bilderberg meetings could actually be used as a mean of reducing the legitimacy of the system, if it is explained in that perspective. Sadly, it has been hijacked by those who believe that feminism is a Jewish conspiracy against the white man's god-given right to drink beer and beat up "his" woman.

[Dimentio]

It's not like the politicians aren't openly colluding with capitalists anyway, I seem to remember them calling meetings with the "captains of industry" on how to deal with the financial crisis.

They don't really need secret cabals to do what they can do out in the open.

No, but these meetings are openly secluded from the wider public, and thus a sitting target for us who question the legitimacy of the entire system.

[Karl Marx AK47]

Why the fuck is Bill Gates, microsoft monopolist, attending the Bilderberg meeting?

We know they have ambitions in both biotechnology, and information technology. Which is more scandalous and frightening, technocrats in gene, bits, or both? All the material I've seen or heard sounds rather disturbing. So why not start with their interest in bio-tech and the one Word that's resurrecting the failed green revolution hustle. Enter AGRA... I apologize for leaving you in suspense but I've been working hard, albeit intermittently, trying to digg out an excellent audio I heard on the subject for you to listen to comrade. From what I remember hearing, the speaker was female Latina and she broke everything down in clear plain language. Meanwhile, you could examine the green revolution hustle, starting from the beginning of the chapter in a google book "the grim reapers: the trilateral commission takes on world hunger". I high-lighted the fuck out of the soft cover. On loan now to a Nicaraguan neighbor. Excellent read.

[Yazman]

It's not like the politicians aren't openly colluding with capitalists anyway, I seem to remember them calling meetings with the "captains of industry" on how to deal with the financial crisis.

They don't really need secret cabals to do what they can do out in the open.

It isn't a "secret cabal", and by painting it that way you make it seem unreal, when it isn't even remotely close to being unreal. Policy IS discussed at the Bilderberg meetings whether you think there's no such thing or not. Essentially I agree with Dimentio on this.

[Guerrilla22]

I'm more concerned with the Illuminati to tell you the truth.