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Rusty Shackleford
3rd June 2010, 13:13
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h3AGDYioy5xMI1VLAaS1NdyMmfQAD9G3P80O2


NEWBERRY, S.C. — State police say a white man has been arrested in the shooting death of a black man whose body was then dragged several miles down a road in central South Carolina.
State Law Enforcement Division director Reggie Lloyd says the killing in Newberry County is being investigated as a possible hate crime and the FBI is assisting in the investigation of the death of 30-year-old Anthony Hill, whose body was found Wednesday morning. Lloyd said investigators don't have a motive.
Newberry County sheriff's deputies say they followed a trail of blood to the mobile home of Gregory Collins. Collins refused to come out and officers used tear gas to force him out.
Lloyd says Collins has been charged with murder.
It's unclear if he has an attorney.


This article is extremely limp saying its a "possible" hate crime.

i dont know how murdering and then dragging the body of a man of a different race couldnt be race motivated. especially in South Carolina.

something similar happened where i used to live a few years back. in california!

RED DAVE
3rd June 2010, 14:59
The was a similar murder in Texas 12 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

RED DAVE

Lyev
3rd June 2010, 16:00
There's an interesting sociological concept that was explained to me by a comrade of mine, but I can't remember the proper name for it. It is basically as follows: in somewhere like America, where there was the racist Jim Crows laws and a segregated society, or similarly in South Africa with apartheid, we had instances where racism was deeply ingrained into society's logic. When we have "official" legislation has been put in place, like the 1964 Civil Rights or the "official" abolition of apartheid in South Africa, the "end of racism" in said society is declared with it. Yet, despite the legislation and laws being passed, racism still occurs, to a degree as extreme as in this example. The "change" that has happened is superficial. I'm not sure of the conclusions that are drawn from this observation though. The guy that explained this to me is a lectures sociology by the way, so he knows what he's talking about.

Sankofa
3rd June 2010, 16:37
The was a similar murder in Texas 12 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

RED DAVE

They made a TV movie out of the incident called Jasper, Texas (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335185/) after the town it took place in.

I haven't seen any "major" news media reporting on this yet, so hopefully as more information comes out it'll be made into a bigger deal.

RED DAVE
3rd June 2010, 18:05
There's an interesting sociological concept that was explained to me by a comrade of mine, but I can't remember the proper name for it. It is basically as follows: in somewhere like America, where there was the racist Jim Crows laws and a segregated society, or similarly in South Africa with apartheid, we had instances where racism was deeply ingrained into society's logic. When we have "official" legislation has been put in place, like the 1964 Civil Rights or the "official" abolition of apartheid in South Africa, the "end of racism" in said society is declared with it. Yet, despite the legislation and laws being passed, racism still occurs, to a degree as extreme as in this example. The "change" that has happened is superficial. I'm not sure of the conclusions that are drawn from this observation though. The guy that explained this to me is a lectures sociology by the way, so he knows what he's talking about.In some ways the changes are superficial, and in some ways they are not.

(1) In terms of substructural changes, with regard to the black working class, there have been some changes, but the fundamental relationship of capitalism, the worker/capitalist relationship, remains, and its especially difficult in the South with little or no unionization.

(2) In the South and the North, there has occurred the emergence of a small black bourgeoisie and a larger black petit-bougeoisie. The petit-bourgeoisie is being severely undermined by the current crisis.

(3) The income differentiation between black and white, in all classes, mitigated somewhat during the 60s and 70s. It is now as bad or worse than ever.

More later.

RED DAVE

GreenCommunism
3rd June 2010, 21:12
the "end of racism" in said society is declared with it.
it sounds like some.. rebellion against the current system. as in nostalgia for older times. it used to be part of society and now it is a rebellion.

Red Commissar
4th June 2010, 17:11
Glad to see south carolina is moving past its stereotypes :rolleyes:

Barry Lyndon
4th June 2010, 17:42
Why haven't I even heard about this? I guess it doesn't fit into the media narrative that we are now a "post-racial" society.

Crusade
6th June 2010, 23:48
Why haven't I even heard about this? I guess it doesn't fit into the media narrative that we are now a "post-racial" society.

Of course not. That'd mean we would have to change things. You know how much this country hates (actual) change.

Ocean Seal
7th June 2010, 00:08
This article is extremely limp saying its a "possible" hate crime.

This type of language pisses me off. It's an obvious hate crime. This whole "possible" crap shows how little liberals truly care about racism.