What Was Bordiga's Po

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sition on national liberation, out of curiosity?

[bcbm]

"The passage of the Communist Parties to the strategy of a great anti-fascist bloc, aggravated again in the anti-German war of 1939 with the slogans of national collaboration, partisan movements of committees of national liberation, up to the scandal of ministerial coalition, has signified the second disastrous defeat for the world revolutionary movement. . .

Reject all invitation to national solidarity with classes and parties, who yesterday claimed the over-throw of that which they called totalitarian, in combating the Axis states, only in order to reconstruct it by legal methods, through the reconstruction of world capitalism, ruined by the war."

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^that is his position on anti-fascism.

[bcbm]

i think it pretty clearly correlates a position on national liberation.

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I don't think so, actually. He is not specifically addressing national liberation as national liberation, or really at all for that matter; he is addressing 'anti-fascist' imperialism, and his passing reference to 'national liberation' is specifically a reference to (the slogans of) national liberation (committees) in that particular context - in relation to 'anti-fascist' imperialism. It isn't a general statement. Obviously I'm not arguing that you're wrong about his view on it, since I have no idea what it actually was; you may well be right. I'm just saying that the quoted statement doesn't demonstrate it. Surely if he'd shared the position of today's leftcoms on this issue - let alone agreed on the centrality of the question - he'd have actually dealt with the issue specifically/explicitly?

[black magick hustla]

i have no idea. i know the international communist party which was "bordigist" exploded on the issue of palestinian national liberation, and that today there are quite a few bordigist grouplets who believe in it

[lulks]

"Bordiga did in fact stick very closely to the views of Marx and Engels, including their dubious positions such as support for national liberation movements"
- http://libcom.org/library/bordigism-adam-buick

[Palingenisis]

i have no idea. i know the international communist party which was "bordigist" exploded on the issue of palestinian national liberation, and that today there are quite a few bordigist grouplets who believe in it

Ima Maoist but Bordiga always make me a little bit unsure of my position.

He is someone I admire though a lot.

I really wish he was better known than Trotsky.

[Zanthorus]

"Bordiga did in fact stick very closely to the views of Marx and Engels, including their dubious positions such as support for national liberation movements"
- http://libcom.org/library/bordigism-adam-buick

Never read anything by Bordiga on national liberation but I'm pretty sure this will be correct. Bordiga was pretty hardcore when it came to upholding Marxist orthodoxy.

[Palingenisis]

Never read anything by Bordiga on national liberation but I'm pretty sure this will be correct. Bordiga was pretty hardcore when it came to upholding Marxist orthodoxy.

Given his attitude towards Lenin I doubt he saw it as a dividing line the way the ICC do.

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Thanks for the responses, guys. It's strange how little information there is about it on a google search.

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Unless you can read Italian there isn't much available in English.