Had a "debate" with a teacher at school.

[Broletariat]

Well this guy is an ex-state NC house of representatives member, Dave Diamont for those who are interested. We're not normally in his classroom but we were today for some reason or another and he asked us what party x president belonged to and I said Republican when it was Democrat, and I'm like well they're all the same anyway. And he responds incredulously that they definitely are not, at which point I responded with the typical two parties of the financial aristocracy. At which point he was like, you need to look into the Tea Party if you really think that, to which I responded I'd much rather look into groups such as party for a socialist liberation or international communist current (only two groups I could think of off hand, no reflection of my thoughts on these groups). He then went on to say how I sounded like I belonged in Cuba where after I responded with several facts as to Cuba's superiority to America in terms of literacy human poverty babies birthed in hospitals etc. At this point he was fully defeated and asked when I went off the deep end, this comment provoked uproarious laughter from everyone because I always rant about things like this in History class anyway. I laughed too because it reminded me of internet arguments where once you've won the argument the other side resorts to ad hominem and name calling.

I think the fact that a high-school student can silence an ex-State HoR in a conversation about politics says a lot about the leftist cause.

[ContrarianLemming]

My new hero for the day :laugh:

[Rusty Shackleford]

pretty good shit. ive never gotten into a me versus teacher debate before. sounds exciting.

[Crusade]

That's awesome. :D I have debates like this with my father. But he's a fierce Obama supporter so I have to form all my arguments for socialism in the form of anti-right winger rants. :bored:

[Agnapostate]

I'm so sick of debating, honestly.

The last person I was in some debate with at school was a guest speaker, some near-billionaire mutual fund manager who was unsurprisingly extolling Austrian economics.

[Qayin]

My dumb ass history teacher Sophmore year told us the Bourgeois were the ruling class in Communism lmao I owned his dumb ass hardcore.

[Chambered Word]

Should have made that fucker feel ashamed for practically bullying a student like that. What kind of politician talks to a kid like that? Thanks for sticking it to that fuck. :thumbup1:

[Agnapostate]

What kind of politician talks to a kid like that?

Well, intelligent and politically knowledgeable youths shouldn't be condescended to either, though I expect that there was some "stupid, unexperienced kid" attitude on this teacher's part.

[Nwoye]

rah rah fight the powa

[Broletariat]

Well, intelligent and politically knowledgeable youths shouldn't be condescended to either, though I expect that there was some "stupid, unexperienced kid" attitude on this teacher's part.


Oh yes definitely, I ran into him again today and he jokingly was liike "oh look it's the socialist" so I responded jokingly in kind that I prefered the term Libertarian Marxist, something of a Social Anarchist if you will. Then he was like "Oh yea Anarchy I can totally respect violence rawr rawr" I was like >_>

[Agnapostate]

Well, feel free to reciprocate with mockery of the utopian idea that there are serious differences between the political parties. The naive lover of government versus the skeptical cynicist.

[Broletariat]

Well, feel free to reciprocate with mockery of the utopian idea that there are serious differences between the political parties. The naive lover of government versus the skeptical cynicist.
I don't even dignify that sort of behaviour with a response tbh, unless people are around and listening, then I'll offer a comprehensive rebuttal. But in this case he was just talking to me.

[black magick hustla]

i used to start shitstorms at highschool all the time

[Broletariat]

i used to start shitstorms at highschool all the time
Heck yea man it's so fun. I live in small-townville so everyone is a fundie christian so I get to roll with that too. I remember one day in English we were studying Inherit the Wind and we had a journal with the prompt of "Evolution vs. Creationism" I knew nobody was going to actually write about the subject so I just wrote a paper attacking religion, and that day we decided to discuss journals. The discussion lasted for 45 minutes and by the end of it I had made a girl cry and leave the room (I wasn't violently attacking her verbally or anything, she screamed JESUS LOVES YOU WHY CAN'T YOU JUST ACCEPT THAT before storming out), had a chalkboard eraser thrown at me >_>, and found out there are other atheists at my school.

[leftace53]

I was too busy doing things I wasn't supposed to, and not actually going to school, and when I went I was too busy being a "grade drone" to start debates in high school :( . I'd like to go back just to start some shit.

[Broletariat]

I was too busy doing things I wasn't supposed to, and not actually going to school, and when I went I was too busy being a "grade drone" to start debates in high school :( . I'd like to go back just to start some shit.
You have no idea what you missed out on, and tbh I'm sad I only converted to Communism/Anarchism this late in my educational career (juniour in highschool) missed a lot of debate opportunities I presume.

[ed miliband]

Last argument I had with a teacher was about the democratic ownership and control of the means of production. She considers herself a socialist and was adamant that nobody on 'The Left' would believe that the working class could control society, and that similarly nobody on 'The Left' would advocate a stateless society. She kept repeating "nobody who is left-wing would wish to see a stateless society..." and I told her everything she was saying was completely wrong and that she was actually talking about social democracy. She got really sarcastic and was like 'oh, thanks for correcting my political terminology!', as if to say 'I've been to university and studied politics only for this snotty kid to think he knows more than me'.

:laugh:

[Lyev]

rah rah fight the powaThis is a piccie of me and mah pals, when we're skipping gym class so we can fight the powa. I'm on the centre-left.
http://heavenhollywood.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ratm2.jpg

[eyedrop]

Aren't history teachers always old 68ers:confused:

[Nwoye]

This is a piccie of me and mah pals, when we're skipping gym class so we can fight the powa. I'm on the centre-left.
I leik to fight tha powah by alienating my classmates and acting like an arrogant prick to authority figures.

[Comrade Hoxha Hysni]

I guess I'm lucky: my geography and history teachers are all left-wing, though reformists and support governments such as Lula and Kirchner. The debates are smooth: me and my group of friends even like to mock our geography teacher by celebrating everytime there's an attack by muslim extremists in the news, and he calls us the terrorists of the back row of the class. :D

[Broletariat]

I guess I'm lucky: my geography and history teachers are all left-wing, though reformists and support governments such as Lula and Kirchner. The debates are smooth: me and my group of friends even like to mock our geography teacher by celebrating everytime there's an attack by muslim extremists in the news, and he calls us the terrorists of the back row of the class. :D
Unfortunately, we don't ever even talk about the News in my US history class. The focus has been entirely on the AP exam, and now the final. They pretty much just teach the test which infuriates me to no end because anytime I try and expound upon a subject my teacher shuts me down saying "it's not on the test" or if there's some blatant lie she'll just say "that's not how it reads on the test so that's not how you need to know it" I've essentially had to double-think throughout most of this class.

[Comrade Hoxha Hysni]

Wow, the educational system in the USA sounds bad.

I don't like the private vs. public brazilian system either, but at least the private schools get some decent teachers for History and Geography...

[Broletariat]

Wow, the educational system in the USA sounds bad.

I don't like the private vs. public brazilian system either, but at least the private schools get some decent teachers for History and Geography...
To be fair, this is a very under-funded rural type school.

[Agnapostate]

I went to evangelical parochial middle school, and by the time I was in the eighth grade, I could clearly recognize aspects of creationist doctrine as incorrect. I challenged some points in "science" class, and my angry teacher just kicked me out and hissed at me that "this is not a debate class!" At a certain point, you just have to grit your teeth and ignore their nonsense, because you won't change views that are entrenched and will only cause trouble for yourself by trying. Choose your battles wisely.

[InuyashaKnight]

Debates Debates there fun! I use to debate but then that debate turned into a fight :(

[Comrade Hoxha Hysni]

This is why I hate rural areas/small towns. So reactionary.

I already hate to have to deal with the urban bourgeoise kids, now imagine ultrachristian freaks.