Does anyone lie about their politics. . .

[FinnMacCool]

In order to avoid pointless arguments?

I used to tell the truth but now I just say that I don't care.

[The Douche]

I usually joke about them unless I am interested in talking to the person, but if they're an outright moron I usually just tell them I believe in "chaos, death, destruction, murder, and torture".

[RedStarOverChina]

I never lie about it because I'm not ashamed of it. But when people I know would turn out to be morons talk politics with me I just don't bring it up, and make it apparent that I don't wish to speak. Saves me the energy of arguing.

When I was younger and more energetic I practically used to brag about it.

[Quail]

Sometimes I don't challenge my friends'/family's opinions to avoid turning a night out/short visit into a long political debate. It just depends on the situation. I also sometimes worry that I'm a bit of a bore to my apolitical friends.

[revolution inaction]

no, i often like pointless arguments

[GPDP]

Sometimes I don't challenge my friends'/family's opinions to avoid turning a night out/short visit into a long political debate. It just depends on the situation. I also sometimes worry that I'm a bit of a bore to my apolitical friends.

That's pretty much me as well. Some of my family members are right-wing, so when they start talking about politics with each other, I stay out. As for my friends, I rarely talk about politics with them, unless they bring it up.

[Jimmie Higgins]

I only lie about it with employers. Edit: and the cops in my family - well I don't lie about it to them, I just avoid the subject like the OP said.

[Os Cangaceiros]

but if they're an outright moron I usually just tell them I believe in "chaos, death, destruction, murder, and torture".

I think that I'm going to start doing this.

[Mendax]

If there bigger then me and right wing then I tend to keep pretty quiet..If however theres no chance of me ending up in A and E I just tell the truth or string together random politcal phrases. Like say, Post-Liberal-Neo-Anarchist-troskyism and a lot of people just nod and say they've heard of it ><

[Lyev]

I usually joke about them unless I am interested in talking to the person, but if they're an outright moron I usually just tell them I believe in "chaos, death, destruction, murder, and torture".Yeah, I sometimes take this line, but with the variation of "I'm a communist because I like to hunt down and kill gays and blacks"

[Steve_j]

Im pretty open about my politics, only problem is when im drunk and distressed about an issue it comes out in a manner that is highly incoherent and i end up looking like a tit. Doesnt matter though, most people that are close to me are hippies and think there are holes in my aura that are unballencing my energy and clogging my charkras and thus forgive me for my drunken anti hippie rants :thumbup1:

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

I am very open about my politics and this has been the cause of many an argument, with loved ones, friends and enemies.

It can be amusing though, one funny time was when I was called an "ultra-leftist" because I strongly disagreed with some nutter that oil prices had gone up because "Muslim nations had put a 'jihad' on the west".

[ContrarianLemming]

When asked directly, It strongly depends on the company i keep, if it's friends, I say syndicalist, if it's apoliitical types, I also say symdicalist. If it's family, I say communist. i only say anarcho syndicalist to those knowledgable of politics.

none of them are actually liews, just bending it a little. Usually during a debate I wont mention my ideology, unless it's with other far leftists.

[RHIZOMES]

I never lie about it because I'm not ashamed of it. But when people I know would turn out to be morons talk politics with me I just don't bring it up, and make it apparent that I don't wish to speak. Saves me the energy of arguing.

When I was younger and more energetic I practically used to brag about it.

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That's pretty much me as well. Some of my family members are right-wing, so when they start talking about politics with each other, I stay out. As for my friends, I rarely talk about politics with them, unless they bring it up.

This.

I hate having pointless arguments with people who won't change their minds, I don't bring it up but I don't hide it.

[bcbm]

i only lie on here

[Chimurenga.]

No.

I like talking politics with whoever wants to talk. I have not problem calling myself a Communist.

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

Not generally. I was in an awkward situation where I got stuck in an airport once. I ended up getting a ride with a truck driver who was the boyfriend of an acquaintance of my family. Never going to see him again, most likely, but I still didn't want the make the long drive worse than it was. I tried to guide him as much as I could, and he always qualified things with "not all of them, etc." He was always ranting about how Muslim truck drivers were dirty and supposedly cut wholes in the bottom of their trucks in order to defecate while driving. Some other nonsense I have forgotten.

It's a bit ageist, I'll admit, but I'm also inclined to avoid the issue with I'm dealing with elderly individuals who are very opinionated. I find as I'm fairly young still and they are old, I somehow am not credible, as they believe it. So not only have they had more time to reinforce their own beliefs, but they already presume I have little of value to say. This is only true of a small portion of people, however.

I've never outright lied if someone asks me a question about my political ideology, though I don't think it's came up much. I may quietly acquiesce to a stupid point, basically by saying nothing, merely to avoid dealing with the person. But if they are more upfront, I'll usually answer honestly.

I used to have difficulty letting people say stupid things at all. Now I can listen to it, but if it's a conversation I'm directly involved with, I usually can't. I'm usually one of the ruder students in class (not to professors). If someone says something false, I don't use that "I respectfully disagree" nonsense. I pointed out that the argument that "people are busy" doesn't explain why individuals fail to take an interest in politics. Most people have a lot of free time, of which they choose not to spend on political things. Someone counters with the fact that people need two jobs to stay afloat in many cases. Then class was over. That's true for some, but the majority of people either don't need that or simply act irresponsibly and put themselves into debt.

Annoyed with stereotypical liberals believing if we just fix a few things and cheer people will vote en mass and political changes will happen. Pfft.

[Crusade]

If you're a leftist you have to be damn near a city planner/architect/community organizer when talking to people. They will question you about everything from where to start, how the "revolution" will play out, where to get resources, white or wheat bread, etc. If you can't answer all those questions they therefore conclude it might not work. But if you CAN answer those questions they usually say I don't know or I have to look into it more, which I consider a victory. Then I know I am superior.

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[Qayin]

I don't say I'm an anarchist I just say I'm a socialist. Im in fucking Arizona guys bare with me, socialist is bad enough to the large ultra rightist mormon population here.

[Crusade]

I don't say I'm an anarchist I just say I'm a socialist. Im in fucking Arizona guys bare with me, socialist is bad enough to the large ultra rightist mormon population here.

Anarchist would put you in a better position than socialist with the righties in Chicago. They just think you're anti government.

[piet11111]

There is nothing like having a pointless argument while drinking and knowing that the morning after none of you will remember a thing.

[this is an invasion]

I like to wear USA shirts.

[here for the revolution]

My family (not immediate, but the aunt, uncle and grandparents on one side) are all Daily Fail fanatics, griping about the `pc` world and the `pikeys` etc. so I can't help but chip in and undermine their moronic beliefs. The rest of the time, I'm in a Grammar school in Tory homeland, so I'd rather be open and proud of my beliefs than subvert them everyday to avoid discussion and argumentation.

[Raúl Duke]

I mostly avoid it...in the sense that I rarely/seldom initiate or interject politics into conversations with certain people. If people ask I try to avoid it but if asked/pressed directly I say I'm an anarchist. I don't lie about my politics (unless with employers or cops), if people have a problem with it they can go fuck themselves.


If you're a leftist you have to be damn near a city planner/architect/community organizer when talking to people. They will question you about everything from where to start, how the "revolution" will play out, where to get resources, white or wheat bread, etc. If you can't answer all those questions they therefore conclude it might not work.

hahaha, this is quite true in many cases. Although I tend to have good responses and usually they do say "I don't know" or "I have to look into it more."

[Barry Lyndon]

If pressed, I will say 'socialist' or 'Marxist'. If the subject is explicitly political philosophy/theory, I tend to bring up Marx, Lenin, and Zizeck quite a bit, so my political orientation is obvious to just about anyone with half a brain.
Some of the best arguments I have had regarding my politics are with well-informed conservatives, particularly of the libretarian type. They put their cards on the table and are open that they are my enemy, and we debate from there.
Liberals, by contrast, I usually find slippery, hypocritical, and condescending towards my views. Sometimes they try to act like they share my goals, just not the methods I advocate, but they really don't.

[rednordman]

Unfortuanetly, I seen to be surrounded by rightwing bigots. Its almost like its in fashion to vocally hate things. So in all seriously, it really is a waist of time giving them any 'indepth' marxist or anarchist arguement. The only way i can really get a 'victory' over them is when I get them agreeing with me, about the sole cause of most of the worlds problems is in fact capitalism and not immigrants and red tape.

Honestly, alot of people in the UK really do believe that they are the only country in the whole world to have immigration and foreign labour.

[Comrade Gwydion]

Only when playing with reformists, when I try to meddle in their affairs, especially when trying to get local SP-members (dutch social-populists) and GL-members (greens, formerly left, now more center) to get along and do something leftwing-progessive instead of whatever they're *****ing about.

And on revleft, because on revleft it's cool to pretend I don't care about the reformists at all.

With my friends, who are often either socialists or laissez-fair cappies, I am usually dead-honest.

[Pavlov's House Party]

I mostly avoid it...in the sense that I rarely/seldom initiate or interject politics into conversations with certain people. If people ask I try to avoid it but if asked/pressed directly I say I'm an anarchist. I don't lie about my politics (unless with employers or cops), if people have a problem with it they can go fuck themselves.

Pretty much this. People who force their politics on every aspect of their life are boring and one-dimensional. I have several comrades who are the worst people in the world to hang out with, because every conversation, no matter how irrelevant, becomes a political discussion.

[Nolan]

Yes. I lie to Revleft. In my closet I have a shrine of Stalin to which I sacrifice virgins on a weekly basis.

[mikelepore]

I never lie about my views, but there are times when I will use a one-liner instead of discussion-length comments. When people around me make pro-capitalist comments, and frankly I don't think their degree of social education is sufficient for them to even understand a thoughtful critique, I will make a very brief remark like: "So, you just assume that having five percent of the people own ninety-five percent of the wealth is the very best of all possible systems." That's a sufficient poke so that anyone who is willing to learn more will have a little koan to think about for the next few days, while anyone who is completely closed-minded to social change can just shake their head about me being an idiot and the conversation is terminated.

[The Red Next Door]

I just tell people i am progressive.

[Robocommie]

I do, fairly frequently. Generally to avoid the hassle. Though I will tell the truth if I feel it's worth talking about. I suppose all the Glenn Beck Red Scare bullshit has me paranoid about who I let my political identity slip to.

What I will do is find a way to promote socialism in conversations about politics without actually saying it's socialism.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I don't think I've ever told anyone I've ever debated or discussed politics with that I'm a Marxist/communist/socialist/whatever because it just seems counter-productive. It's easier to talk about the politics of communism without actually giving it a name because we all know the word communist is a bad word in Amerikka.

[RedScare]

I tend to just avoid the subject, as arguments are rarely worth the trouble.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

I tell people I want to pull the plug on their grandma and Obama is watching them masturbate. Then I tell them I'm a socialist.

[Zanthorus]

I don't lie. But I do try to avoid the subject. Since I'm not a very confident public speaker when it comes to things like politics.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

I always lie about my politics, I've been pretending to be a communist since 2005.

[jaffe]

I usually joke about them unless I am interested in talking to the person, but if they're an outright moron I usually just tell them I believe in "chaos, death, destruction, murder, and torture".

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[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Only to job interviewers.

[leftace53]

Only to job interviewers.

This, I tell them my utter and complete respect for authority and company policies.

[NGNM85]

Not really. Depending on who I'm talking to I might say 'Libertarian Socialist' as opposed to 'Anarchist.' If I say 'Anarchist' I almost inevitably have to spend a minimum of twenty minutes wrestling with their misconceptions about what Anarchism is, whereas when I say I'm a 'Libertarian Socialist' they have no idea what I'm talking about.

[Dr Mindbender]

I never have to lie or tell the truth about my politics because generally speaking the opportunity to reveal them never arises.

People avoid political discussions for the most part.

If the opportunity came, i would label myself a technocrat, that is what is on my facebook profile at least.

[HEAD ICE]

I tell people that I am a "libertarian socialist", usually when they hear that they are more intrigued than angered.

[Tablo]

I never really lie about my politics, but I will generally say different things to different people all depending on my mood. Normally I call myself a Libertarian Socialist, but sometimes I just say Communist so they can call me an evil red-fascist and I can explain to them what Communism really is.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Not really. Depending on who I'm talking to I might say 'Libertarian Socialist' as opposed to 'Anarchist.' If I say 'Anarchist' I almost inevitably have to spend a minimum of twenty minutes wrestling with their misconceptions about what Anarchism is, whereas when I say I'm a 'Libertarian Socialist' they have no idea what I'm talking about.

It is a lot more easy to fill in peoples' ignorance than to obliterate their misconceptions.