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eyedrop
29th May 2010, 16:03
Designing highways the slime mould way


http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/mg20527426.300/mg20527426.300-1_300.jpg

A SLIMY road planner has rearranged the UK's motorway network - and all in exchange for a hearty meal. A corrupt politician at work? No, it's Physarum polycephalum, a yellow slime mould normally found growing in piles of rotten leaves and logs.
Jeff Jones and Andrew Adamatzky, specialists in unconventional computing at the University of the West of England in Bristol, wondered if biology could provide an alternative to conventional road planning methods. To find out, they created templates of the UK using a sheet of agar on which they marked out the nine most populous cities, excluding London, with oat flakes. Then, in the place of London, the pair introduced a colony of P. polycephalum, which feeds by spawning tendrils to reach nutrients, and recorded the colony's feeding activity (see picture).
Most of the resulting "maps" mimicked the real inter-city road network, but some offered new routes. For instance, the motorway between Manchester and Glasgow passes along the west coast of the UK, but the slime mould preferred to travel east to Newcastle and then north to Glasgow (arxiv.org/abs/0912.3967 (http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.3967)). "This shows how a single-celled creature without any nervous system - and thus intelligence in the classical sense - can provide an efficient solution to a routing problem," says Jones.


Link (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527426.300-designing-highways-the-slime-mould-way.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news)

Tyrlop
29th May 2010, 16:23
what the fuck. i didn't gosh

this is an invasion
31st May 2010, 23:17
You are aware that the primitivist argument against technology and shit isn't so much that it's environmentally destructive, but that it's alienating, right?

AK
1st June 2010, 09:57
You are aware that the primitivist argument against technology and shit isn't so much that it's environmentally destructive, but that it's alienating, right?
How exactly does technology alienate people?

eyedrop
1st June 2010, 14:57
You are aware that the primitivist argument against technology and shit isn't so much that it's environmentally destructive, but that it's alienating, right?
Yep, and imagine how much less alienating it is to lay out a foodmap for the slime mould to plan the railnetwork, than to program a model on a computer, to find out an efficient array.

mykittyhasaboner
1st June 2010, 22:21
How exactly does technology alienate people?

It doesn't class struggle and exploitation does, and I don't think TIAI was going to suggest that technology is in fact alienating. Primitivists argue that technology is alienating because it's supposedly the source of exploitation; since technology has driven society towards stratification and such.

AK
2nd June 2010, 07:14
It doesn't class struggle and exploitation does, and I don't think TIAI was going to suggest that technology is in fact alienating. Primitivists argue that technology is alienating because it's supposedly the source of exploitation; since technology has driven society towards stratification and such.
So what they don't see is the capitalists who own the machines in the factories and shops and all.

this is an invasion
4th June 2010, 21:53
How exactly does technology alienate people?

Beats me. I can certainly see how some of it is (specifically social networking sites like facebook, but that's mainly because they create a spectacle), but then again, I'm not a primitivist.


I'm just pointing out that primitivism isn't entirely about being environmentally friendly.

ÑóẊîöʼn
5th June 2010, 21:55
I think most Facebook users would laugh at the idea that it's "alienating". I certainly don't feel alienated by Facebook.

this is an invasion
5th June 2010, 22:57
I think most Facebook users would laugh at the idea that it's "alienating". I certainly don't feel alienated by Facebook.

that's tight dude