when did you first realize you would die?

[Universal Struggle]

I was a little kid, playing farmer in the back garden, i was digging and planting potatos.

My mum asked me how we keep the birds off the crops and i said we have to shoot them.

She asked me if i would be scared of going in a hot air balloon, i said i did not know.

She said would i go in one with her, i said yes in a hundred years.

She said, we would be dead in a hundred years.

I said what in a really shocked way, she then proceded to tell me how everyone dies.

My little heart sank, and i still cannot get over it.

Sometimes i cant sleep at like 3 in the morning thinking about how i will die and just cease to exist.

Do yo rememer when you first realized you would die?

How did you get over it.

I dont think about it much, but on soe nights it really fucks with my head.

[Broletariat]

Read something by Albert Camus imo

[Universal Struggle]

sorry people, bet i sound like a fucking nutcase.

[Broletariat]

Nah it happens man, Death can be scary depending on how you decide to look at it. It's not really something you can comprehend, not existing, no sense in really worrying about it tbh.

[Crusade]

I'm still not certain I'm gonna die.

[Robocommie]

Death is utterly natural, and as inevitable as the sunrise. A while back I came to realize that something that is so utterly natural and so integral a part of the natural order of things, can't be bad. It happens every day, and yet life goes on. I have some kind of hunch that existence will carry on even past death, even though I believe it will be in a way that may be impossible to explain.

The fact is, nothing is ever truly destroyed, it's merely renewed or transformed. I imagine it's the same with the waking, conscious mind.

[Universal Struggle]

in death we feed the earth, so i guess we really are alive in death in a spiritual way.

For all the Buddhists out there :)

[SeaSpeck]

The same day I stopped believing in God.

[el_chavista]

Tak zakalyalas stal:


Samomu vazhnamu cheloveku - eto zhisn. Ona daëtsa emu odin ras y prozhit ee nado...

[Universal Struggle]

if there is a heaven, i think jesus dosent let thosewearing crosses in.

Its like wearing a wheelchair necklace next to hawkins.

Hewould be like, "you know what i died for your fucking sins, you shove it back in my face, my ex wife is nagging me, my kids just come out, fuck i need a drink".

His Dad keeps telling him he has been in the house of god too lon, he should find his own place, him and Debra split up years ago, he needs to get it together, the alamony is leaving him sint, he is so depressed, he has a vat of brandy and a 9 mm and he is seriously thinking of killing himself, going to hell and partying with the devil, his cool uncle, who is like totally badass, he would fuck chuck norris up.

[leftace53]

I think it was more of a gradual approach to the realization. It wasn't a very thought provoking realization or anything, it was like "oh hey I'll die someday, better make it last"

[el_chavista]

There is a text on the novel by Ostrovsky "So the Steel Was Tempered" which says:


The most important thing for man is life. It is given to him once and man must live it through so...I recommend reading the novel to find out what follows...

[ContrarianLemming]

I have dealth with strong Thanatophobia (intense fear of death) for much of my life, but I don't know when I first realized, I can't remember a time I didn't know.

[danyboy27]

I'm still not certain I'm gonna die.

same here man, with all those progress in nanotechnology, who know what its gonna be like in 40 year.

[Klaatu]

I would be afraid of death if I thought that I had done nothing to improve the human condition. IMHO, we are all here for a purpose, that is, to make the world a better place.

That is what Socialism and Communism is all about: making the world a fairer and better place for mankind. That's my opinion.

[Crusade]

Death is utterly natural

That doesn't mean it's good, desirable, or even moderately acceptable. From what it seems to be, it sounds like an immensely horrible thing.

[this is an invasion]

That doesn't mean it's good, desirable, or even moderately acceptable. From what it seems to be, it sounds like an immensely horrible thing.

Yeah, except after you die, you won't exist. You can't experience how horrible something might be if you don't exist.

[Crusade]

Yeah, except after you die, you won't exist. You can't experience how horrible something might be if you don't exist.

Yeah, but the existing thing is the most important part. The idea of not being..anything is an absolutely dreadful thought. Hell actually seems like the preferable option to not existing.

[#FF0000]

Just when you posted this you jerk.

[Broletariat]

Just when you posted this you jerk.
I was waiting for a response similar to this :laugh:

[Robocommie]

That doesn't mean it's good, desirable, or even moderately acceptable. From what it seems to be, it sounds like an immensely horrible thing.

True, it often does, and yet it's inevitable. Anxiety is the core of fear. If, like a motherfuckin' samurai, you can merely recognize that life is heavier than a mountain, and death is but a feather, and simply accept the inevitable, death will hold no fear for you.

[Crusade]

True, it often does, and yet it's inevitable. Anxiety is the core of fear. If, like a motherfuckin' samurai, you can merely recognize that life is heavier than a mountain, and death is but a feather, and simply accept the inevitable, death will hold no fear for you.

I like how you used pretty words to make me ok with death. :lol: It temporarily worked though.

[StoneFrog]

Me death is just apart of everything, its something that is needed in the cycle of life.
I was aware of death from a very early age, but i think is always just accepted it. I find it harder dealing with people who are grieving than death it self. I think i got a weird outlook on death and it just doesn't bother me much.

[Robocommie]

I like how you used pretty words to make me ok with death. :lol: It temporarily worked though.

lol I'm glad, even if only for a moment. These are deep questions, you know, about life and death. It has a tendency to bring out the armchair philosopher in me. :lol:

[The Vegan Marxist]

I've already decided that, with death being an inevitable situation in life, I'm not going to die laying in bed waiting for death in some old-folk home. I'll die on my feet with a gun in my hand, knowing that I've died for a cause. Even if that means going to some third world & fighting with a guerrilla group. If I'm going to die, it'll be with honor.

[eyedrop]

... you can merely recognize that life is heavier than a mountain, and death is but a feather, and simply accept the inevitable, death will hold no fear for you.

Isn't that from the Wheel of time novels? And the saying is that duty is heavier than a mountain.

Or did Wheel of Time steal the saying from real history?

[Tifosi]

I've already decided that, with death being an inevitable situation in life, I'm not going to die laying in bed waiting for death in some old-folk home. I'll die on my feet with a gun in my hand, knowing that I've died for a cause. Even if that means going to some third world & fighting with a guerrilla group. If I'm going to die, it'll be with honor.

As long as it is fast man, BANG! done. I couldn't sit in a OAP home just waiting, that would be worse than the actual dieing part.

Or I might fight death to the death

[Chambered Word]

True, it often does, and yet it's inevitable. Anxiety is the core of fear. If, like a motherfuckin' samurai, you can merely recognize that life is heavier than a mountain, and death is but a feather, and simply accept the inevitable, death will hold no fear for you.


I like how you used pretty words to make me ok with death. :lol: It temporarily worked though.

The whole samurai thing has actually worked for me before. :lol:


I've already decided that, with death being an inevitable situation in life, I'm not going to die laying in bed waiting for death in some old-folk home. I'll die on my feet with a gun in my hand, knowing that I've died for a cause. Even if that means going to some third world & fighting with a guerrilla group. If I'm going to die, it'll be with honor.

I'd like to feel like a bad ass motherfucker before I cease to exist.

[RED DAVE]

From "Little Miss Sunshine":


Dwayne (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0200452/): I wish I could just sleep until I was eighteen and skip all this crap-high school and everything-just skip it.

Frank (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0136797/): Do you know who Marcel Proust is?

Dwayne (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0200452/): He's the guy you teach.

Frank (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0136797/): Yeah. French writer. Total loser. Never had a real job. Unrequited love affairs. Gay. Spent 20 years writing a book almost no one reads. But he's also probably the greatest writer since Shakespeare. Anyway, he uh... he gets down to the end of his life, and he looks back and decides that all those years he suffered, Those were the best years of his life, 'cause they made him who he was. All those years he was happy? You know, total waste. Didn't learn a thing. So, if you sleep until you're 18... Ah, think of the suffering you're gonna miss. I mean high school? High school-those are your prime suffering years. You don't get better suffering than that.:D

RED DAVE

[Robocommie]

Isn't that from the Wheel of time novels? And the saying is that duty is heavier than a mountain.

Or did Wheel of Time steal the saying from real history?

It's a Japanese proverb. Though I replaced "duty" with "life" because hey, we don't really have much in the way of duty around here.

[AK]

I was a little kid, playing farmer in the back garden, i was digging and planting potatos.

My mum asked me how we keep the birds off the crops and i said we have to shoot them.

She asked me if i would be scared of going in a hot air balloon, i said i did not know.

She said would i go in one with her, i said yes in a hundred years.

She said, we would be dead in a hundred years.

I said what in a really shocked way, she then proceded to tell me how everyone dies.

My little heart sank, and i still cannot get over it.

Sometimes i cant sleep at like 3 in the morning thinking about how i will die and just cease to exist.

Do yo rememer when you first realized you would die?

How did you get over it.

I dont think about it much, but on soe nights it really fucks with my head.
Hey, I still worry my head about this all night. I get genuinely shit scared of death - particularly by old age.

I have dealth with strong Thanatophobia (intense fear of death) for much of my life, but I don't know when I first realized, I can't remember a time I didn't know.
Always thought there was a word for it. Thanks :)

I've already decided that, with death being an inevitable situation in life, I'm not going to die laying in bed waiting for death in some old-folk home. I'll die on my feet with a gun in my hand, knowing that I've died for a cause. Even if that means going to some third world & fighting with a guerrilla group. If I'm going to die, it'll be with honor.
This. I've always used being a communist as a strategy to beat my "thanatophobia". I figure if I manage to spend my entire life fighting for something great that will improve the lives of everyone on the planet then I'll have forgotten my phobia whilst I was sidetracked for 70-odd years.

To put it simply: to hold back your fear of death, you need to pre-occupy yourself.

[RebelDog]

I don't really linger on the thought that I'm going to die. Its the 'fact' that life exists that sometimes takes my thoughts. This universe, or more specifically planet earth, has perfect conditions for life to exist and now billions of years after molecules somehow managed to replecate themselves, here we are as sentient beings able to understand our universe to a great degree. The paradox is you have to be alive to wonder how matter in this universe can turn in to entities that have conciousness and are able to understand the universe they are a part of. Its like the universe 'knowing itself', giving itself reality. It never ceases to amaze me that this is the case and I am part of it, thinking, being, contemplating.

[Crusade]

I don't really linger on the thought that I'm going to die. Its the 'fact' that life exists that sometimes takes my thoughts. This universe, or more specifically planet earth, has perfect conditions for life to exist and now billions of years after molecules somehow managed to replecate themselves, here we are as sentient beings able to understand our universe to a great degree. The paradox is you have to be alive to wonder how matter in this universe can turn in to entities that have conciousness and are able to understand the universe they are a part of. Its like the universe 'knowing itself', giving itself reality. It never ceases to amaze me that this is the case and I am part of it, thinking, being, contemplating.

How is it that we're "amazed" by life though? It's all we've ever known, isn't it? What other forms of reality could there be? I often hear that life doesn't make sense, but I believe it's our reasoning that's the problem. Like we say life just "started" somewhere. We ask questions like what "created" the universe. Why did it have to be created? Why did it have to "start" at a specific time, instead of just always being here? What matter have you seen simply appear out of nowhere? Have you ever just been staring at a wall and see anything randomly appear? If that's impossible now why was it possible then? What was so magical about the "beginning" of the universe that something happened then that's in no way possible now? :bored:

[this is an invasion]

From "Little Miss Sunshine":

:D

RED DAVE

Definitely one of the best movies ever.

[Martin Blank]

Meh. Been dead before. No big deal. It's like passing out drunk, but without all the "morning after" crap.

[Robocommie]

Meh. Been dead before. No big deal. It's like passing out drunk, but without all the "morning after" crap.

Sounds like a story.

[Martin Blank]

Sounds like a story.

I suppose it is. It certainly was something that has shaped my existence since.

[Desperado]

Without death how are we meant to put a purpose to life?

[rednordman]

For some strange reason when i thought about this as a very young kid, I would always try to associate what it was like before i was born as a very similar thing to after i die. I always used to imagine a deep almost claustrophobic blackness.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I used to have a serious fear of death, it was literally all I could think about. I would spend many nights searching the internet for pictures of dead people and even attempted to track down snuff films at one point, just out of morbid fascination, thinking that it might quell my fears seeing it happen, of course seeing this stuff didn't help me. I would also convince myself I had cancer at every opportunity. Chest pain? Lung cancer. Headache? Brain tumour. Itchy skin? Leukaemia. And of course you are far more likely to get sick if you spend your whole life worrying about it. I started getting into extreme horror cinema about five years back, "torture porn" and exploitation films like the Saw franchise, Cannibal Holocaust, Man from Deep River, and Day of the Woman (AKA I Spit on your Grave) really helped actually, they kind of desensitised me to the idea that everyone dies, but they also seemed to add fuel to the fire which was my fascination with death, which I eventually got over. Can't give all the credit to movies though, actually reading about dialectical and historical materialism really helped me see that death is ultimately a good thing as are all things that are natural.

[tracher999]

if i die than i hope its with a smile on my face otherwise i gonna put somthing in that fucking god his ass if that fucking ***** exist:D

[AK]

For some strange reason when i thought about this as a very young kid, I would always try to associate what it was like before i was born as a very similar thing to after i die. I always used to imagine a deep almost claustrophobic blackness.
Same, although I still do.
It seems weird that our consciousness can just arise at some point when our brains have sufficiently developed.

[Universal Struggle]

me too

[Ocean Seal]

The day I first read about war, I believe that I was very young and that I had just read part of a book on the Vietnam War, then I realized that I would die too.

[Gecko]

death obsession petit bourgeoise luxury..
man...most of the people on this earth are poor people of the 3rd world living on less than 2 dollars a day just struggling to eat and stay alive..they live with death and to them it is real,tangible,natural ..unlike the petit bourgeoise they ain't got the luxury of idle time to obsess on and create such silly phantasms in their minds...
the petit bourgeoise lifestyle has the luxury of having way too much free time on it's hands getting all fucking psyched out about death as if it is some kind of fucking stephen king novel or something.....
:blink:

[Universal Struggle]

fuck off you prick.

is having the net bourgeoise, is having free healthcare.

some call being gay bourgeoise decadence.... i call those people super pricks.

go troll somewhere else.

[Chambered Word]

death obsession petit bourgeoise luxury..
man...most of the people on this earth are poor people of the 3rd world living on less than 2 dollars a day just struggling to eat and stay alive..they live with death and to them it is real,tangible,natural ..unlike the petit bourgeoise they ain't got the luxury of idle time to obsess on and create such silly phantasms in their minds...
the petit bourgeoise lifestyle has the luxury of having way too much free time on it's hands getting all fucking psyched out about death as if it is some kind of fucking stephen king novel or something.....
:blink:

I'm sorry we don't happen to be as poor as people in Third World countries. How about you fuck off now?

[AK]

death obsession petit bourgeoise luxury..
man...most of the people on this earth are poor people of the 3rd world living on less than 2 dollars a day just struggling to eat and stay alive..they live with death and to them it is real,tangible,natural ..unlike the petit bourgeoise they ain't got the luxury of idle time to obsess on and create such silly phantasms in their minds...
the petit bourgeoise lifestyle has the luxury of having way too much free time on it's hands getting all fucking psyched out about death as if it is some kind of fucking stephen king novel or something.....
:blink:
Dude. No-one here ever mentioned anything about the poor victims of colonialism. We are talking about our fears as individuals, not as "petit-bourgeoisie" (despite the vast majority of us being proletarian and fucked over by the status quo like all the other members of the working class). It's a sad and regrettable reality that those in the Third World face the possibility of death by starvation, dehydration, murder, disease or war every day - and that's something we revolutionaries plan to reverse; with the help of the working class and peasantry. But if you can't handle the fact that most of us live in the First World and - believe it or not - we have emotions, too, then I suggest you shut the fuck up and don't be so quick to judge.

[Tyrlop]

I've already decided that, with death being an inevitable situation in life, I'm not going to die laying in bed waiting for death in some old-folk home. I'll die on my feet with a gun in my hand, knowing that I've died for a cause. Even if that means going to some third world & fighting with a guerrilla group. If I'm going to die, it'll be with honor. thats silly. revolutions romantic liberal piece of shit fairytale. one shouldn't go out and dieing like that just for the honour of it. there is much more in dying then doing it for your own egocentric cause.


How is it that we're "amazed" by life though? It's all we've ever known, isn't it? What other forms of reality could there be? I often hear that life doesn't make sense, but I believe it's our reasoning that's the problem. Like we say life just "started" somewhere. We ask questions like what "created" the universe. Why did it have to be created? Why did it have to "start" at a specific time, instead of just always being here? What matter have you seen simply appear out of nowhere? Have you ever just been staring at a wall and see anything randomly appear? If that's impossible now why was it possible then? What was so magical about the "beginning" of the universe that something happened then that's in no way possible now? :bored:
The universe has allways existed. some scientists says that there has been many big bangs.
and the idea of things being natural? is nature even natural?

[AK]

and the idea of things being natural? is nature even natural?
Epic contradiction, no?
If we're talking about nature as Mother Nature (or what have you), then no, nature is the least natural thing in existence. It's a shitload of atoms grouped together in the form of cells to metabolise and some of those cells even give us sentinece. Atoms - which are just a bunch of particles that include really fast spinning particles spinning around other particles - collectively being able to think and question the collective entity's own place in the universe is just whack.

[Chambered Word]

Epic contradiction, no?
If we're talking about nature as Mother Nature (or what have you), then no, nature is the least natural thing in existence. It's a shitload of atoms grouped together in the form of cells to metabolise and some of those cells even give us sentinece. Atoms - which are just a bunch of particles that include really fast spinning particles spinning around other particles - collectively being able to think and question the collective entity's own place in the universe is just whack.

That has always mindfucked the hell outta me.

[#FF0000]

death obsession petit bourgeoise luxury..
man...most of the people on this earth are poor people of the 3rd world living on less than 2 dollars a day just struggling to eat and stay alive..they live with death and to them it is real,tangible,natural ..unlike the petit bourgeoise they ain't got the luxury of idle time to obsess on and create such silly phantasms in their minds...
the petit bourgeoise lifestyle has the luxury of having way too much free time on it's hands getting all fucking psyched out about death as if it is some kind of fucking stephen king novel or something.....
:blink:

lol you are so fucking cute

[28350]

I'm actually not going to die.

http://www.werdyo.com/images/2010/03/05b/lost/richard_alpert.jpg

[AK]

I'm actually not going to die.

http://www.werdyo.com/images/2010/03/05b/lost/richard_alpert.jpg
I really wish I understood the relevance of this guy...

[this is an invasion]

I have come to the realization that death absolutely terrifies me. Not my own death, although I don't really like to think of that, but the death of people I love (especially because they are far and few in between).

I also realize that this is something that I need to deal with and grow/learn from in way that isn't just macho "death is inevitable" superficial bullshit.

Word.

[this is an invasion]

the petit bourgeoise lifestyle has the luxury of having way too much free time on it's hands getting all fucking psyched out about death :

So does being unemployed, bro. Seriously, you're an idiot :(

[Agnapostate]

I will die and be as dead and inanimate as every dead animal before me.

[AK]

I will die and be as dead and inanimate as every dead animal before me.
For me the saddest part is looking around at people and animals and thinking that one day soon, they will all be gone forever.

[RedRise]

I had a pretty good understanding of the life cycle from quite an early age. Ironically, I was more freaked out by the prospect of 'the dreaded puberty' then the prospect of actually dying.
I guess nobody actually knows what happens after we die (although no one can say there haven't been theories) and since I can't imagine the conscious mind simply shutting down and disappearing I figure that I'll find out what happens when it happens.
Losing people that were close to you is probably the hardest thing about death. I suppose that when I die I'll be similarly sad about leaving everyone.

[AK]

I had a pretty good understanding of the life cycle from quite an early age. Ironically, I was more freaked out by the prospect of 'the dreaded puberty' then the prospect of actually dying.
I guess nobody actually knows what happens after we die (although no one can say there haven't been theories) and since I can't imagine the conscious mind simply shutting down and disappearing I figure that I'll find out what happens when it happens.
Losing people that were close to you is probably the hardest thing about death. I suppose that when I die I'll be similarly sad about leaving everyone.
Actually I can imagine the conscious mind shutting down. The conscious mind is essentially stored on the physical bodily organ that is the brain. For the brain to be alive and the mind conscious, brain cells need to metabolise - without the food brought by the blood, the brain cells no longer metabolise and the brain cells die; causing the living brain and the conscious mind to be no more.

See what I did there?

[piet11111]

A long time ago but saturday it really hit me again when i heard someone i went to high-school with has leukemia (blood cancer) and then i started thinking about all those other kids i went to school with and realized some are married already.

I mean Fuck i am getting older :blink: life really is passing by and it seems to go by faster the older i get.

[28350]

I really wish I understood the relevance of this guy...

Lost reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Alpert_(Lost) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Alpert_%28Lost)
Basically his magical mascara makes him immortal.

EDIT: The link isn't working. Copy and paste into your URL if you really care.

[Agnapostate]

Death, in most ordinary cases, won't be painful, and won't be a sensation that we have awareness of. It's simply another case of going asleep, and since technology is presumably going forward, we may one day wake up just as we wake up every normal morning.

[AK]

Lost reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Alpert_(Lost) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Alpert_%28Lost)
Basically his magical mascara makes him immortal.

EDIT: The link isn't working. Copy and paste into your URL if you really care.
Nah, you just forgot the ")" in the URL itself. Wikipedia suggested the good link to me, anyway..