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Renno
25th May 2010, 11:07
SLOVAKIA: Skinheads Attack, Force Cancellation Of First Gay Pride Parade

Slovakia's first ever gay pride parade was cancelled today after skinheads attacked the participants with rocks, eggs and a tear gas grenade. Organizers are blaming police for not providing adequate protection. Eight neo-Nazis were arrested and there were no serious injuries.
Members of the neo-Nazi group Slovensk Pospolitosť attacked the participants at a pre-parade rally for LGBT rights. A tear gas canister thrown by one of the approximately 80 neo-Nazis interrupted the rally, attended by 500 people, while the extremists also were throwing eggs at the participants, the Sme daily reported. Two rally participants who were carrying a rainbow flag, the symbol of the parade, were attacked by the neo-Nazis at Hviezdoslav Square in Bratislava. They attacked the flag barriers with their fists in the face, the SITA newswire reported. The rally and parade had been announced long in advance and observers said that the police had enough time to prepare for the security and safety of the parade participants.

Instead of the parade of pride, Slovakia has experienced a day of shame, wrote Smes deputy editor-in-chief Luk Fila in his commentary suggesting that the attack by the neo-Nazis against the participants shows a failure by the state. Fila states that if the state was unable to secure order at an event which had been announced months in advance and about which all media had been reporting and to which foreign diplomats had confirmed their presence, then in what other areas are the police incapable of securing public order? Similar incidents marred gay pride events earlier this month in Belarus and Lithuania. Below, Slovakian police arrest one of the anti-gay rioters.

from:.... joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/05/slovakia-skinheads-attack-force.html

Marxist
25th May 2010, 16:13
Our police never attacks the nazis , only when they need to get some "martyr" photos for the news

The Red Next Door
25th May 2010, 16:27
Gays need a self defense group in that country, fuck the police, if they not gonna protect ya, you have to protect yourselves, plus there might be cops in that fash group.

Ocean Seal
27th May 2010, 20:28
plus there might be cops in that fash group.
That's exactly what I was thinking. How come the riot police is so effective at protecting some and not others?

Chambered Word
30th May 2010, 06:53
^Plus, where did these fuckers get a tear gas grenade from?

The left needs combat squads!

AK
30th May 2010, 10:29
The left needs combat squads!
I think Antifa (and similar groups) need a wider presence and to get themselves armed. Not guns though, otherwise deadly shit would go down. Although then the state would undoubtedly classify Antifa as a terrorist organisation of some sort - whilst allowing racist groups to spread the hate without opposition.

Chambered Word
30th May 2010, 12:41
I think Antifa (and similar groups) need a wider presence and to get themselves armed. Not guns though, otherwise deadly shit would go down. Although then the state would undoubtedly classify Antifa as a terrorist organisation of some sort - whilst allowing racist groups to spread the hate without opposition.

If you stockpile weapons of any sort you're looking at a terrorist organization classification and a long stint in jail.

AK
30th May 2010, 12:56
If you stockpile weapons of any sort you're looking at a terrorist organization classification and a long stint in jail.
Maybe they just keep a large supply of molotov cocktails? :lol:

Joesky
30th May 2010, 12:59
Why wasn't their a Leftist presence on the march? Why couldn't comrades in Slovakia have shown some solidarity with LGBT rights while at the same time provided a little more protection?

Chambered Word
31st May 2010, 04:58
Maybe they just keep a large supply of molotov cocktails? :lol:

Like I said, if you stockpile stuff for later use that could even be construed as weaponry you're fucked.

Renno
2nd June 2010, 04:43
@ joesky,
it is pretty easy to judge situations comfortably from behind our keyboards, but you and me are in a situation that we not have to fear to much from faschos.
Maybe inform yourself more about the things that are going in eastern europe, and then make a statement.I bet it would be not as simple as yours

Chambered Word
2nd June 2010, 10:13
@ joesky,
it is pretty easy to judge situations comfortably from behind our keyboards, but you and me are in a situation that we not have to fear to much from faschos.
Maybe inform yourself more about the things that are going in eastern europe, and then make a statement.I bet it would be not as simple as yours

Joesky has a legitimate concern actually, but it's quite possible that it wasn't practical or possible at the time for comrades to be there.

Also I'm pretty sure he's with the SWP so it's not like he's probably rallied against fascists and racists on the streets before. I would not be quick to judge people as 'armchair revolutionaries' if I were you.

Joesky
2nd June 2010, 13:17
@Renno
Well i can understand the feeling that the only wars Revleft users fight, are on the internet and i'm pretty sure that is not true.
Most of us have branch meetings, Gatherings and protests to go to when we're not on Revleft. I've been to many EDL, BNP Counter-demos over the past 6 months i've been a revolutionary socialist and I will also become a Love Music Hate Racism Branch Organiser this Sept. So please don't insult people by presuming things.
The reason i asked that question was because i was wondering if there wasn't a left presence, why wasn't there one?

Renno
2nd June 2010, 14:10
I did not mean to insult anybody, Joesky, sorry about that. English is not my first language, so sometimes things come out in a way that was not meant to be.
I meant that we, including myself,are in a relative safe position compared to antifascists in eastern europe. Not to mention LGBT people. And that we sometimes tend to forget that not the whole world is like our world. Different places=different people=different values
A gaypride march is sure to encounter a lot of violence,from faschos,the state and the churches.
Maybe it is a tactical choice not to defend the march, i dont know, sometimes a non-violence approach works better than a full scale riot.

Joesky
2nd June 2010, 14:26
I understand now what you were trying to say and i can respect that comrade. The thing that i don't understand is why the LGBT community had to march alone, when we all know that they are targets of so many evil people. To their credit though they demonstrated more courage then the Ant-Fascists. It's things like this that is why the Left isn't respected like it used to be in my opinion.