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Rebelde
24th May 2010, 21:31
I have a question for you comrade's who are parent's. I will be expecting my first child this July and I live in the U.S. Not only do I live in U.S. I live in the south,Florida to be exact. My question is how and what steps did you take to raise your child to understand socialism/communism/anarchism?
eyedrop
24th May 2010, 21:54
I have a question for you comrade's who are parent's. I will be expecting my first child this July and I live in the U.S. Not only do I live in U.S. I live in the south,Florida to be exact. My question is how and what steps did you take to raise your child to understand socialism/communism/anarchism? Not that I'm a parent, but I have worked a decent amount of time in kindergartens and schools.
I think the most important thing you can do is to always explain and discuss with them, never tell them that anything just is. Learn them to never take anything at face value, and encourage them to research for themselves if they don't trust something you, or anyone else, says to them.
If you got children who always want to know the reason why, you are doing something right at least.
The Idler
25th May 2010, 19:13
Teach them to share.
jake williams
26th May 2010, 19:20
Let them freely emotionally and intellectually develop, with love and support of course. Make it clear that you are an individual, and your views about politics are opinions you came at for a variety of reasons - not absolute truth. The idea that individuals, including parents, are omniscient individuals and their views are sacred are antithetical to those very views you'd like to teach or encourage. The human mind is a pretty amazing thing, yes, even in children - as long as the kid is allowed to freely and extensively investigate the world as it actually is, they will probably do so and will probably gain a pretty good understanding of things.
RED DAVE
26th May 2010, 20:03
I have a question for you comrade's who are parent's. I will be expecting my first child this July and I live in the U.S. Not only do I live in U.S. I live in the south,Florida to be exact. My question is how and what steps did you take to raise your child to understand socialism/communism/anarchism?1 - GET THE FUCK OUT OF FLORIDA. My ex-wife moved there with our sons. It took me years to get rid of the fucking unconscious racism they picked up there. No joke. New York City is bad enough, but Florida is a racist, culturally backward armpit.
2 - RAISE THEM WITHOUT TELEVISION!
3 - Monitor their Internet prowling. Keep them away from Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, etc., as much as possible. There is nothing there for them.
4 - My sons were raised to be good socialists. Neither of them are. Both are left liberals. In the absence of a strong socialist subculture, it is very difficult to keep your kids facing left.
5 - Encourage their creativity, always. Expose them to art, music, good books, movies.
6 - Send them to public school. Pick your school, get involved, but stay the fuck away from private schools, homeschooling, charter schools, etc.
I could write a book about this. I must also say that, according to my own standards, I failed.
RED DAVE
Universal Struggle
26th May 2010, 20:06
Red dave, please adopt me.
i would call you uncle joe and we could bond over a baby eating session:thumbup1:
Kingpin
26th May 2010, 20:19
Instead of having them watch cartoons developed by capitalist imperialists such as Spider man, Batman, the Thunder Cats, etc.
have them watch films and cartoons with leftist overtones.
Such as Animal Farm, war footage showing the United States in a bad light, etc.
Universal Struggle
26th May 2010, 20:38
paint teir room with pictures of stalin and mao, also for their birthday buy them socialist literature and tell them santa and the easter bunnies are reactionaries distracting us from the class tensions in society.
Fucking stupid bunny, tricks are for kids
Lenina Rosenweg
26th May 2010, 21:25
This is a blog of a "Marxist homeschooler" in Canada. I'm not sure if I agree w/her approach, just thought I'd pass it on.
http://asmallcornerofnowhere.blogspot.com/
A former co-worker in his early 50s, who regards himself as a red diaper baby, said his socialist parents used to send him to a socialist summer camp in the Catskills and this made a big impression on him.Having said this he's in the Green Party now and his politics are more liberal/left than socialist.
A good idea might be , as soon as your child is old enough, would be to take him to meetings or involve him, if only socially, in what your organization is doing. By the time he/she reaches early adolescence-15 or so years from now, I think the crisis of capitalism will be much more severe than it is now.In some cases children of radical parents might turn out to be more conservative than their parents, but in this case your child will have a much better understanding of the situation and will be much better prepared.
There's a children's book that came out recently, something like "Stories for Young Rebels"
Above all teach your child to be a critical thinker and to have faith in their own judgements.
Madvillainy
26th May 2010, 21:35
Instead of having them watch cartoons developed by capitalist imperialists such as Spider man, Batman, the Thunder Cats, etc.
have them watch films and cartoons with leftist overtones.
Such as Animal Farm, war footage showing the United States in a bad light, etc.
Have you watched the animal farm cartoon? It's shit. Spiderman and Batman are far more enjoyable and this is what it comes down, we shouldn't be pushing political ideologies on our kids we should be making life as enjoyable and rewarding as possible. And yeah If they get into socialism thats cool but some of the crap you guys are saying is fucked up. I mean Red dave, No tv? C'mon, no wonder they don't like socialism.
ugh I hate socialists sometimes, they over think everything and just end up looking like weirdos.
Martin Blank
26th May 2010, 21:57
Advice from a parent: Let them think for themselves, help them learn how to think for themselves, and allow them the opportunity to learn the theories on their own.
Universal Struggle
26th May 2010, 22:03
fuck all that let them make their own choice
tell them, be a marxist or me and mummy wont love you and we will give you up for adoption.
Then give them a marxist reading of the cat in the hat.
You see son, the green eggs represents the rotten capitalistic system:laugh:
leftace53
27th May 2010, 03:16
I wish my mommy and daddy had told me about Marx, Karl and Groucho.
The Vegan Marxist
27th May 2010, 08:42
Alright, I think it's time to look at this through a scientific perspective, since the socialism we promote is called "Scientific Socialism". Children turn into what they become, not by sheer chance or merely born as such, but rather go about in their lives what we call "environmental conditioning". What this means is that, whatever they see, hear, & are put on them by another, they learn from those personal experiences & give off a certain repetitive motion from what they saw as a kid, & apply such when they've finally grown up.
So say mommy & daddy are die-hard Marxists. They read Communist literature, watch the news & criticize it through dialectical reasoning or collective thought, & more than likely go on some kind of peace rally, in which promotes their views. The child, as s/he grows up, will witness these things & learn from it. They'll eventually start asking questions, in which every child does, & that should be when you educate them by answering their questions. Don't tell them if what you're saying is right or wrong, but rather your own intake on what it is & let them try & understand it themselves. I promise, if you treat your kid right & let them go about their day, you'll find yourself having a son or daughter in which is similar to you.
So in other words, take things under a dialectical manner & just let your kid live his own life. Live yours as you take care of your child & let the environment guide him/her. As any parent should, be around your child whenever possible. S/he will need you a lot in life, & with that constant surrounding, they'll notice your way of life & will eventually adapt to it. That is the only way a child should be brought up in life, whether you want them to be a Socialist, or even a Capitalist. So good luck with your child & I hope the best comes out for you.
Red Love & Salutes!
Nothing Human Is Alien
31st May 2010, 22:00
Teach the children how to think, not what to think.
gorillafuck
31st May 2010, 22:04
Such as Animal Farm, war footage showing the United States in a bad light, etc.
Why on Earth would you show children war footage?
the last donut of the night
31st May 2010, 22:05
"Cat in the Hat"...more like "Engels Got Himself in a Tangle", or "Marx Always Gets Good Marks!"
Weezer
31st May 2010, 22:09
"Daddy, could I have seconds?"
"Don't such a capitalist, Junior."
durhamleft
31st May 2010, 22:17
1 - GET THE FUCK OUT OF FLORIDA. My ex-wife moved there with our sons. It took me years to get rid of the fucking unconscious racism they picked up there. No joke. New York City is bad enough, but Florida is a racist, culturally backward armpit.
2 - RAISE THEM WITHOUT TELEVISION!
3 - Monitor their Internet prowling. Keep them away from Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, etc., as much as possible. There is nothing there for them.
4 - My sons were raised to be good socialists. Neither of them are. Both are left liberals. In the absence of a strong socialist subculture, it is very difficult to keep your kids facing left.
5 - Encourage their creativity, always. Expose them to art, music, good books, movies.
6 - Send them to public school. Pick your school, get involved, but stay the fuck away from private schools, homeschooling, charter schools, etc.
I could write a book about this. I must also say that, according to my own standards, I failed.
RED DAVE
That seems very harsh to me..
griffjam
31st May 2010, 22:37
What methods of child rearing do anarchists advocate? (http://www.infoshop.org/page/AnarchistFAQSectionJ6)
The Idler
1st June 2010, 19:27
Why on Earth would you show children war footage?
Nobody should ever wilfully expose their children to the horrors of war.
The Vegan Marxist
1st June 2010, 21:09
http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=996
Ocean Seal
1st June 2010, 22:05
I'm not a parent. But I can tell you why I am a communist and its not because I was told to be a communist. Its because of the way that I was raised. From a very young age my grandmother raised me teaching me not to think myself better or worse than others. To understand that by taking more others would have to take less. She taught me that abusing others was wrong, but allowing myself to be abused was just as wrong. She taught me that men and women of all races and faiths were ultimately equal. She taught me not to chase money as it was an empty incentive.
She never even mentioned the word communist and yet I'm a red. :)
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