Is Mumia Abu-Jamal Really Innocent?

[The Vegan Marxist]

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on this very popular subject is & reasons why you believe so?

Reason why I'm interested in such is because I just got done looking over the Danial Faulkner site, & went over the "debunked myths" section, & I've gotta say it's pretty well researched. So can anyone refute the allegations brought forth on this site?:

http://www.danielfaulkner.com/original/mythsdir.html

P.S.: Please, let's remain open minded about this subject & try to see if we can actually find truth on either side of the case.

[Zapatas Guns]

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on this very popular subject is & reasons why you believe so?

Reason why I'm interested in such is because I just got done looking over the Danial Faulkner site, & went over the "debunked myths" section, & I've gotta say it's pretty well researched. So can anyone refute the allegations brought forth on this site?:


P.S.: Please, let's remain open minded about this subject & try to see if we can actually find truth on either side of the case.

Look up a man named Arnold Beverly. Now I am not an expert on this subject, but he confessed to being a mob hitman who was hired to kill Faulkner. His confession was not accepted by federal court.

[Thomas Paine]

If he killed the cop or not, is not what we should measure his innocence by.

If a revolutionary kills a pig does this make him accountable to the courts or to the people?

He MUST be free, no matter wether he cooked the bacon.

[graymouser]

You should read "The Framing of Mumia Abu-Jamal" by J. Patrick O'Connor. It makes it damn well clear that the prosecution's case was a mess, and that Mumia's trial involved tremendous amounts of police, prosecutorial and judicial misconduct. There's no reason to give any weight at all to the Faulkner side that wants to legally lynch an innocent man, and to be blunt I don't think that anyone should remain "open minded" about it. The site that pretends to "debunk" myths is relying on the outright lies that the prosecution used in the mockery of a trial Mumia had in the early '80s.

[Mälli]

Quilty or not he should atleast get a new trial and get rid of the death sentence. He is a revolutionary hero!

[blake 3:17]

I'm convinced of his innocence. It's been a while since I looked at the case as its been presented in public. In the past I've been a supporter of the New Trial campaign. I'd just would like to see him free.

At present it seems neither a new trial or an execution is possible.


There's no reason to give any weight at all to the Faulkner side that wants to legally lynch an innocent man, and to be blunt I don't think that anyone should remain "open minded" about it. The site that pretends to "debunk" myths is relying on the outright lies that the prosecution used in the mockery of a trial Mumia had in the early '80s.

The site is super fishy... When a case becomes this politicized, all the secondary and extra commentary becomes a bit worthless at a certain point. The police associations are terribly frustrated that Brother Mumia hasn't been killed. We want him free. His case is actually an amazing demonstration of the contemporary State -- the mediator of different class and social actors, the ability to punish in extremely clinical and distant ways, basic manipulation of legal technicalities.

[The Red Next Door]

I haven't research much about him so i can't really given an opinion. but i believe he is innocent. Due to the fact, that government was always trying to paint any panther as a blood lusting pyscho.

[this is an invasion]

free all prisoners!

[Robocommie]

I don't really know if he's innocent or not. I do however know there's a LOT of black men in jail who shouldn't be there.

[syndicat]

I recall reading one piece by an investigative journalist who came to the conclusion he did kill the cop but that it was in self-defense. Cops killing black men and getting away with it is not exactly uncommon in this country.

[Killer Enigma]

"Is he innocent?" isn't the question that leftists should ask. Mumia Abu-Jamal's incarceration is the product of a racist legal system and the case brought against him lacked sufficient evidence to even meet the liberal "beyond a reasonable doubt" criterion necessary to convict someone of a felony, much less sentence them to death. His innocence is incidental to what his trial says about the American criminal justice system.

If you talk to most working class people--especially people of color--you'll see that they understand this argument very well. White petty-bourgeois liberals tend to be the people who want Mumia to be "proven innocent" before they "get on-board" your campaign. Don't worry about it--you don't want those people in your organization anyway.

[mosfeld]

I don't think Mumia killed him, he's most likely innocent. Even if he did, fuck pigs, they deserve what's coming to them.

http://www.freemumia.com/
http://www.freemumia.org/

[Ocean Seal]

Mumia is most probably innocent. I believe that the police's star witness was a prostitute (who was probably coerced into framing him) and that she later turned up dead. That smells fishy instantly.

[Blake's Baby]

Hell, even if he's not (I think he was framed, but let's say for a moment he was guilty) he's still served 28 years in jail (or whatever it is now) which in most other countries would be considered a life sentence (and then some), so he'd be released anyway.

[Ocean Seal]

Hell, even if he's not (I think he was framed, but let's say for a moment he was guilty) he's still served 28 years in jail (or whatever it is now) which in most other countries would be considered a life sentence (and then some), so he'd be released anyway.

I just realized that its been a while. 28 years without justice :(. Such a sad life for such a revolutionary comrade.

[The Ben G]

All the evidence points to him being innocent. That should be enough.

[Ocean Seal]

All the evidence points to him being innocent. That should be enough.
Unfortunately, evidence means less than a quick close to a capitalist court.