Could a Zombie Apocalypse turn into a Revolutionary Situation?

[Nolan]

Could it? The government wouldn't be functional so I'm guessing yes.

[¿Que?]

In b4 someone requests to move to chit chat.

[¿Que?]

For the record, I never requested to move this to chit chat. I only envisioned a future where someone would.

[An archist]

Yes it could.

[Red Saxon]

Zombie swarms are perfect examples of communal leadership with no centralized authority.

[Pirate Utopian]

And then what? The world's fucked. Good luck improving it.

[Raúl Duke]

And then what? The world's fucked. Good luck improving it.

This

and in a way, I don't think it will be a revolutionary situation.

We may see the return of older communal systems (rationing/sharing of the most essentials; "luxury items" will probably not) with a sort of "leader" (who is chosen out of merit and can be easily deposed of in most cases) instead.

[mykittyhasaboner]

I think the living humans would eventually win and just use the zombies for slave labor.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Perhaps, but then the revolutionaries would be faced with the same problem that the governments faced...namely, zombies.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Marx wrote somewhere in Capital that "capital feasts on the labor of the working class like vampires". The exact quote is very poetic.

As far as zombies go, what is their relationship to the means of production? Do they have to eat? Does being dead exempt them from this? Then the undead could be regarded as lumpen proletariat elements.

I could regard zombies as essentially being dead labor of the living. Could we bring back zombie versions of the great revolutionaries of the past?

[Red Saxon]

I could regard zombies as essentially being dead labor of the living. Could we bring back zombie versions of the great revolutionaries of the past?Lenin eating a corpse would be lol funny.

[jake williams]

As far as zombies go, what is their relationship to the means of production? Do they have to eat? Does being dead exempt them from this? Then the undead could be regarded as lumpen proletariat elements.
I was thinking along these lines. I think any real-world zombie attack, rather than being any sort of a mystical apocalypse, would be the result of an engineered attack by the ruling class to quell organization and unrest on the part of the working class - using undead-ed lumpen elements, as per usual.

[An archist]

You're all mistaking.
Zombies have a classless, stateless society, they're the perfect communists!

[Angry Young Man]

And then what? The world's fucked. Good luck improving it.

You really have it in for zombies. Vitalist!

[Blake's Baby]

Yeah, I was kinda assuming we'd be on the side of the zombies. Zombies are after all just dead workers reanimated to be slaves of religious mystics.

Zombies of the world, unite!

[jake williams]

Yeah, I was kinda assuming we'd be on the side of the zombies. Zombies are after all just dead workers reanimated to be slaves of religious mystics.
Would you be on the side of the fascists because the Nazi Wehrmacht was made up of workers?

[Blake's Baby]

If they were turning their guns on their oppressors I would be, yeah. Likewise when the zombies rise up against their oppressors, I'm on the side of the zombies. Are you on the side of the murderous vigilantes then?

[Kamerat]

Zombies are nazi's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6RFTVNHf4w&feature=related
I would not call these guys comrades.

[Blake's Baby]

You're falling for the propaganda of the Bourgeoisie comrade. Of course they don't want us to see that the Zombies are the only revolutionary class in history.

[Pirate Utopian]

The zombies from Land of the Dead did eat the rich.

[Pirate Utopian]

You really have it in for zombies. Vitalist!
Damn straight. Show me a good zombie and I'll shoot it in the head anyway.

[Blake's Baby]

Why would you want to shoot a good zombie?

I might want to, I only like baaaad zombies.

[Pirate Utopian]

The infection risk is too high. We dont want a World War Z scenario do we?

[Blake's Baby]

Pah. Only because you privilige the fleshy warm-bloods at the expense of the oppressed mass of zombiedom. We are not your enemy comrade! Turn your guns on your own masters of vitalist hatred!

[jake williams]

If they were turning their guns on their oppressors I would be, yeah. Likewise when the zombies rise up against their oppressors, I'm on the side of the zombies. Are you on the side of the murderous vigilantes then?
Unfortunately, comrade, questions of revolution are not questions about what one might want to happen, but what actually happens. Idealism is for those who want to lose the battle for history to the ruling class, and their zombie army.

[scarletghoul]

I think it could, but only if we used forklifts to fight them


Zombie swarms are perfect examples of communal leadership with no centralized authority.
:laugh:

[Angry Young Man]

Damn straight. Show me a good zombie and I'll shoot it in the head anyway.

BART: Dad! You killed the zombie Flanders!
HOMER: He was a zombie?

[Angry Young Man]

Here's what wikipedia has to say about zombies:


Stories of zombies originated in the Afro-Caribbean spiritual belief system of Voodoo, which told of the people being controlled as laborers by a powerful wizard.

So they haven't reached class-consciousness yet

[Blake's Baby]

Which is why I said this.


Yeah, I was kinda assuming we'd be on the side of the zombies. Zombies are after all just dead workers reanimated to be slaves of religious mystics.

Zombies of the world, unite!

You lot are just intent on keeping the zombies down.

"The liberation of the zombies is the task of the zombies themselves!"

[TheFutureOfThePublic]

the surviving humans would just split into different "tribes" with people fighting for the most secure areas and buildings so it would be a bit of a mess to think about any revolutions