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Lenina Rosenweg
17th May 2010, 18:42
I wonder what people think of this. I got it off an Islamic list serve I somehow got on. The article's a bit long but interesting. It could be seen as way too First Worldist, like a whiny spoiled child, but overall its interesting. Most people on revleft might disagree w/the conclusions, he chooses a coward's way out, but there is some truth in the article.



Americans, I have some bad news for you:

You have the worst quality of life in the developed world by a wide margin.

If you had any idea of how people really lived in Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and many parts of Asia, you'd be rioting in the streets calling for a better life. In fact, the average Australian or Singaporean taxi driver has a much better standard of living than the typical American white-collar worker.

I know this because I am an American, and I escaped from the prison you call home.

I have lived all around the world, in wealthy countries and poor ones, and there is only one country I would never consider living in again: The United States of America. The mere thought of it fills me with dread.

Consider this: you are the only people in the developed world without a single-payer health system. Everyone in Western Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, Singapore and New Zealand has a single-payer system. If they get sick, they can devote all their energies to getting well. If you get sick, you have to battle two things at once: your illness and the fear of financial ruin. Millions of Americans go bankrupt every year due to medical bills, and tens of thousands die each year because they have no insurance or insufficient insurance. And don't believe for a second that rot about America having the world's best medical care or the shortest waiting lists: I've been to hospitals in Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Singapore, and Thailand, and every one was better than the "good" hospital I used to go to back home. The waits were shorter, the facilities more comfortable, and the doctors just as good.

This is ironic, because you need a good health system more than anyone else in the world. Why? Because your lifestyle is almost designed to make you sick.

Let's start with your diet: Much of the beef you eat has been exposed to fecal matter in processing. Your chicken is contaminated with salmonella. Your stock animals and poultry are pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics. In most other countries, the government would act to protect consumers from this sort of thing; in the United States, the government is bought off by industry to prevent any effective regulations or inspections. In a few years, the majority of all the produce for sale in the United States will be from genetically modified crops, thanks to the cozy relationship between Monsanto Corporation and the United States government. Worse still, due to the vast quantities of high-fructose corn syrup Americans consume, fully one-third of children born in the United States today will be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes at some point in their lives.

Of course, it's not just the food that's killing you, it's the drugs. If you show any sign of life when you're young, they'll put you on Ritalin. Then, when you get old enough to take a good look around, you'll get depressed, so they'll give you Prozac. If you're a man, this will render you chemically impotent, so you'll need Viagra to get it up. Meanwhile, your steady diet of trans-fat-laden food is guaranteed to give you high cholesterol, so you'll get a prescription for Lipitor. Finally, at the end of the day, you'll lay awake at night worrying about losing your health plan, so you'll need Lunesta to go to sleep.

With a diet guaranteed to make you sick and a health system designed to make sure you stay that way, what you really need is a long vacation somewhere. Unfortunately, you probably can't take one. I'll let you in on little secret: if you go to the beaches of Thailand, the mountains of Nepal,


(he does not mention other things in these places besides beaches and pretty scenery. Also Cuba has nice beaches too...)


or the coral reefs of Australia, you'll probably be the only American in sight. And you'll be surrounded crowds of happy Germans, French, Italians, Israelis, Scandinavians and wealthy Asians. Why? Because they're paid well enough to afford to visit these places AND they can take vacations long enough to do so. Even if you could scrape together enough money to go to one of these incredible places, by the time you recovered from your jetlag, it would time to get on a plane and rush back to your job.

If you think I'm making this up, check the stats on average annual vacation days by country:

Finland: 44
Italy: 42
France: 39
Germany: 35
UK: 25
Japan: 18
USA: 12

The fact is, they work you like dogs in the United States. This should come as no surprise: the United States never got away from the plantation/sweat shop labor model and any real labor movement was brutally suppressed. Unless you happen to be a member of the ownership class, your options are pretty much limited to barely surviving on service-sector wages or playing musical chairs for a spot in a cubicle (a spot that will be outsourced to India next week anyway). The very best you can hope for is to get a professional degree and then milk the system for a slice of the middle-class pie. And even those who claw their way into the middle class are but one illness or job loss away from poverty. Your jobs aren't secure. Your company has no loyalty to you. They'll play you off against your coworkers for as long as it suits them, then they'll get rid of you.

Of course, you don't have any choice in the matter: the system is designed this way. In most countries in the developed world, higher education is either free or heavily subsidized; in the United States, a university degree can set you back over US$100,000. Thus, you enter the working world with a crushing debt. Forget about taking a year off to travel the world and find yourself you've got to start working or watch your credit rating plummet.

If you're "lucky," you might even land a job good enough to qualify you for a home loan. And then you'll spend half your working life just paying the interest on the loan welcome to the world of American debt slavery. America has the illusion of great wealth because there's a lot of "stuff" around, but who really owns it? In real terms, the average American is poorer than the poorest ghetto dweller in Manila, because at least they have no debts. If they want to pack up and leave, they can; if you want to leave, you can't, because you've got debts to pay.

All this begs the question: Why would anyone put up with this? Ask any American and you'll get the same answer: because America is the freest country on earth. If you believe this, I've got some more bad news for you: America is actually among the least free countries on earth. Your piss is tested, your emails and phone calls are monitored, your medical records are gathered, and you are never more than one stray comment away from writhing on the ground with two Taser prongs in your ass.

And that's just physical freedom. Mentally, you are truly imprisoned. You don't even know the degree to which you are tormented by fears of medical bankruptcy, job loss, homelessness and violent crime because you've never lived in a country where there is no need to worry about such things.

But it goes much deeper than mere surveillance and anxiety. The fact is, you are not free because your country has been taken over and occupied by another government. Fully 70% of your tax dollars go to the Pentagon, and the Pentagon is the real government of the United States. You are required under pain of death to pay taxes to this occupying government. If you're from the less fortunate classes, you are also required to serve and die in their endless wars, or send your sons and daughters to do so. You have no choice in the matter: there is a socio-economic draft system in the United States that provides a steady stream of cannon fodder for the military.

If you call a life of surveillance, anxiety and ceaseless toil in the service of a government you didn't elect "freedom," then you and I have a very different idea of what that word means.

If there was some chance that the country could be changed, there might be reason for hope. But can you honestly look around and conclude that anything is going to change? Where would the change come from? The people? Take a good look at your compatriots: the working class in the United States has been brutally propagandized by jackals like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity. Members of the working class have been taught to lick the boots of their masters and then bend over for another kick in the ass. They've got these people so well trained that they'll take up arms against the other half of the working class as soon as their masters give the word.

If the people cannot make a change, how about the media? Not a chance. From Fox News to the New York Times, the mass media in the United States is nothing but the public relations wing of the corporatocracy, primarily the military industrial complex. At least the citizens of the former Soviet Union knew that their news was bullshit. In America, you grow up thinking you've got a free media, which makes the propaganda doubly effective. If you don't think American media is mere corporate propaganda, ask yourself the following question: have you ever heard a major American news outlet suggest that the country could fund a single-payer health system by cutting military spending?

If change can't come from the people or the media, the only other potential source of change would be the politicians. Unfortunately, the American political process is among the most corrupt in the world. In every country on earth, one expects politicians to take bribes from the rich. But this generally happens in secret, behind the closed doors of their elite clubs. In the United States, this sort of political corruption is done in broad daylight, as part of legal, accepted, standard operating procedure. In the United States, they merely call these bribes campaign donations, political action committees and lobbyists. One can no more expect the politicians to change this system than one can expect a man to take an axe and chop his own legs out from underneath him.

No, the United States of America is not going to change for the better. The only change will be for the worse. And when I say worse, I mean much worse. As we speak, the economic system that sustained the country during the post-war years is collapsing. The United States maxed out its "credit card" sometime in 2008 and now its lenders, starting with China, are in the process of laying the foundations for a new monetary system to replace the Anglo-American "petro-dollar" system. As soon as there is a viable alternative to the US dollar, the greenback will sink like a stone.

While the United States was running up crushing levels of debt, it was also busy shipping its manufacturing jobs and white-collar jobs overseas, and letting its infrastructure fall to pieces. Meanwhile, Asian and European countries were investing in education, infrastructure and raw materials. Even if the United States tried to rebuild a real economy (as opposed to a service/financial economy) do think American workers would ever be able to compete with the workers of China or Europe? Have you ever seen a Japanese or German factory? Have you ever met a Singaporean or Chinese worker?

There are only two possible futures facing the United States, and neither one is pretty. The best case is a slow but orderly decline essentially a continuation of what's been happening for the last two decades. Wages will drop, unemployment will rise, Medicare and Social Security benefits will be slashed, the currency will decline in value, and the disparity of wealth will spiral out of control until the United States starts to resemble Mexico or the Philippines tiny islands of wealth surrounded by great poverty (the country is already halfway there).

Equally likely is a sudden collapse, perhaps brought about by a rapid flight from the US dollar by creditor nations like China, Japan, Korea and the OPEC nations. A related possibility would be a default by the United States government on its vast debt. One look at the financial balance sheet of the US government should convince you how likely this is: governmental spending is skyrocketing and tax receipts are plummeting something has to give. If either of these scenarios plays out, the resulting depression will make the present recession look like a walk in the park.

Whether the collapse is gradual or gut-wrenchingly sudden, the results will be chaos, civil strife and fascism. Let's face it: the United States is like the former Yugoslavia a collection of mutually antagonistic cultures united in name only. You've got your own version of the Taliban: right-wing Christian fundamentalists who actively loathe the idea of secular Constitutional government. You've got a vast intellectual underclass that has spent the last few decades soaking up Fox News and talk radio propaganda, eager to blame the collapse on Democrats, gays and immigrants. You've got a ruthless ownership class that will use all the means at its disposal to protect its wealth from the starving masses.

On top of all that you've got vast factory farms, sprawling suburbs and a truck-based shipping system, all of it entirely dependent on oil that is about to become completely unaffordable. And you've got guns. Lots of guns. In short: the United States is about to become a very unwholesome place to be.

Right now, the government is building fences and walls along its northern and southern borders. Right now, the government is working on a national ID system (soon to be fitted with biometric features). Right now, the government is building a surveillance state so extensive that they will be able to follow your every move, online, in the street and across borders. If you think this is just to protect you from "terrorists, " then you're sadly mistaken. Once the shit really hits the fan, do you really think you'll just be able to jump into the old station wagon, drive across the Canadian border and spend the rest of your days fishing and drinking Molson? No, the government is going to lock the place down. They don't want their tax base escaping. They don't want their "recruits" escaping. They don't want YOU escaping.

I am not writing this to scare you. I write this to you as a friend. If you are able to read and understand what I've written here, then you are a member of a small minority in the United States. You are a minority in a country that has no place for you.

So what should you do?

You should leave the United States of America.

If you're young, you've got plenty of choices: you can teach English in the Middle East, Asia or Europe. Or you can go to university or graduate school abroad and start building skills that will qualify you for a work visa. If you've already got some real work skills, you can apply to emigrate to any number of countries as a skilled immigrant. If you are older and you've got some savings, you can retire to a place like Costa Rica or the Philippines. If you can't qualify for a work, student or retirement visa, don't let that stop you travel on a tourist visa to a country that appeals to you and talk to the expats you meet there. Whatever you do, go speak to an immigration lawyer as soon as you can. Find out exactly how to get on a path that will lead to permanent residence and eventually citizenship in the country of your choice.

You will not be alone. There are millions of Americans just like me living outside the United States. Living lives much more fulfilling, peaceful, free and abundant than we ever could have attained back home. Some of us happened upon these lives by accident we tried a year abroad and found that we liked it others made a conscious decision to pack up and leave for good. You'll find us in Canada, all over Europe, in many parts of Asia, in Australia and New Zealand, and in most other countries of the globe. Do we miss our friends and family? Yes. Do we occasionally miss aspects of our former country? Yes. Do we plan on ever living again in the United States? Never. And those of us with permanent residence or citizenship can sponsor family members from back home for long-term visas in our adopted countries.

In closing, I want to remind you of something: unless you are an American Indian or a descendant of slaves, at some point your ancestors chose to leave their homeland in search of a better life. They weren't traitors and they weren't bad people, they just wanted a better life for themselves and their families. Isn't it time that you continue their journey?



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The reasons why other places are so much better to live in than the US are that 1) countries that were on the periphery of the Warsaw Pact and China were deliberately built up
2.) other countries had working class parties that fought, forcing some compromise from the ruling class. In the US we have the Democratic Party...

Americans, isn't it time that you contribute to a working class fightback?

Devrim
17th May 2010, 19:04
I wonder what people think of this.

I dıdn't read it all I only skimmed it, but some things struck home, the stuff about holidays being the most obvious one.

The last guy I had a conversation about this with was a Puerto Rican ex-Marine, who had ended up getting married to a Czech woman, and working in a car factory. His line was basically that they tell Americans that it is the greatest country in the world, but if you actually get out, and live somewhere else you discover things like five weeks paid holiday a year, paid health care etc.

Like many people, I have family in the US. Maybe it is just the way I am, but when they are talking about how great there life is and how great America is, I am just not the sort of person to tell them that "to be quite honest, when you consider your working terms and conditions and the cost of living, I wouldn't even bother getting out of fucking bed to do your job".

Devrim

Scary Monster
17th May 2010, 21:15
I dıdn't read it all I only skimmed it, but some things struck home, the stuff about holidays being the most obvious one.

The last guy I had a conversation about this with was a Puerto Rican ex-Marine, who had ended up getting married to a Czech woman, and working in a car factory. His line was basically that they tell Americans that it is the greatest country in the world, but if you actually get out, and live somewhere else you discover things like five weeks paid holiday a year, paid health care etc.

Like many people, I have family in the US. Maybe it is just the way I am, but when they are talking about how great there life is and how great America is, I am just not the sort of person to tell them that "to be quite honest, when you consider your working terms and conditions and the cost of living, I wouldn't even bother getting out of fucking bed to do your job".

Devrim

This is why id like to get outta the US so bad. What is the experience of finding a job over in places in europe or asia you have been to? Is there any country where you dont really need certification in specific job skills to get a working visa of some sort? I could definitely teach english or something like that. Its fucking ridiculous over here. Im almost done with trade school, but there isnt a way for me to pay my 2,000 dollar tuition, and they wont give me my certificate (in which a EDIT: physical copy is needed by most employers to hire me) unless i pay it all. I may have no other choice but to, say, join the goddamn army reserves or national guard (in noncombat position). But i gotta do what i gotta do.

Devrim
17th May 2010, 21:32
This is why id like to get outta the US so bad. What is the experience of finding a job over in places in europe or asia you have been to? Is there any country where you dont really need certification in specific job skills to get a working visa of some sort?

The crisis is hitting everywhere. I would imagine not only that it would be difficult for you to find work, but also that you would have difficulties with immigration status in most places. I am a qualified brick-layer, which means that you can always get by. If you have nothing, it would be difficult though.

Sorry I can't be more positive.

Devrim

Lenina Rosenweg
17th May 2010, 21:55
My understanding is that'its difficult for Americans to get jobs in most EU countries. If you're a native speaker of English (and even if you're not but can put a sentence together) its fairly easy to get an ESL teaching job elsewhere though. There's a huge demand for English teachers around the world. East Asian countries-Korea, Taiwan, Japan generally pay fairly well. It helps to have ESL certification (courses are basically scams that go for 1000 USD but employers look for it) but even without this there's a demand. The PRC generally doesn't pay as well, but there's free housing, the food is cheap and the best in the world. Cheap beer too.

It also helps to have a university degree but again even without this its still possible to get a job. Pad your resume/CV a bit, add substitute teaching experiences , etc.

You could also teach whatever trade you learned overseas in a developing country.Pay scales in Third World countries of course are much lower than in the US(assuming one can get a job here to begin with) but on the other hand the standard of living can be much higher.

Its also possible to get a civilian scutwork job on a US military base in Europe and Korea. This would be cleaning hotel rooms, supermarket clerk. Sucky work but it would get you out of the US.

I know the situation is horrible in the US but please think things over very carefully before joining any branch of the US military.

These might help.

http://www.eslcafe.com/

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/tazine/index.shtml

If you are interested, PM me and I can send links w/tons of info on jobs in Beijing and Korea.

Scary Monster
18th May 2010, 06:36
The crisis is hitting everywhere. I would imagine not only that it would be difficult for you to find work, but also that you would have difficulties with immigration status in most places. I am a qualified brick-layer, which means that you can always get by. If you have nothing, it would be difficult though.

Sorry I can't be more positive.

Devrim

Nah its always better to tell it like it is rather than telling me what i want to hear, or else i wouldnt learn anything :p;) But yeah, even if its difficult finding something, its better to give it a shot anyway, instead of being stuck in this damn situation im in.


My understanding is that'its difficult for Americans to get jobs in most EU countries. If you're a native speaker of English (and even if you're not but can put a sentence together) its fairly easy to get an ESL teaching job elsewhere though. There's a huge demand for English teachers around the world. East Asian countries-Korea, Taiwan, Japan generally pay fairly well. It helps to have ESL certification (courses are basically scams that go for 1000 USD but employers look for it) but even without this there's a demand. The PRC generally doesn't pay as well, but there's free housing, the food is cheap and the best in the world. Cheap beer too.

It also helps to have a university degree but again even without this its still possible to get a job. Pad your resume/CV a bit, add substitute teaching experiences , etc.

You could also teach whatever trade you learned overseas in a developing country.Pay scales in Third World countries of course are much lower than in the US(assuming one can get a job here to begin with) but on the other hand the standard of living can be much higher.

Its also possible to get a civilian scutwork job on a US military base in Europe and Korea. This would be cleaning hotel rooms, supermarket clerk. Sucky work but it would get you out of the US.

I know the situation is horrible in the US but please think things over very carefully before joining any branch of the US military.

These might help.

http://www.eslcafe.com/

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/tazine/index.shtml

If you are interested, PM me and I can send links w/tons of info on jobs in Beijing and Korea.

Thanks a lot homegirl :thumbup1: Those jobs sound so awesome, very good pay and benefits, and the requirements are quite lax on many of the job postings on eslcafe.com.

But yeah, joining the military is my last resort. I gotta say, the economic security they provide you is very enticing, which of course shows how fucked up capitalism is.
Ill PM u right now, im definitely interested. Sounds like a wonderful experience to live and become integrated in a completely different part of the planet to form different perspectives.


Cheap beer too.

Now thats what im talkin bout

One more question: If i were to lose my job, in say, Beijieng or Korea (just wondering; im not sayin i wouldnt give it my all), would i get deported outright, or would i have some kind of assistance in finding another job (any job really) or given time to find another on my own?

Tablo
18th May 2010, 08:48
I actually plan on teaching English in Korea after college. I can't think of much else to do and they seem pretty desperate for English teachers. Plus I should have an advantage as I am planning on getting an actual teaching degree which most ESL teachers in Korea lack. I don't know what else to do. I can't stay in the US as they seem to be cutting their budgets everywhere. All I want is to work for the benefit of others and live a comfortable life. :(

Nuvem
26th May 2010, 03:41
I don't think he's taking the coward's way out and I don't think he's being whiny, the truth is that America really is a terrible place to be a worker. Our labor movement made progress, but all of it has been smashed over the past twenty years. Our Proletariat has disappeared, industrial jobs are being sent away to countries where child labor is legal and wages are cents on the hour. Trade unions have floundered and died out as industry has been sent away, so our wages and benefits have fallen considerably. Since our industry has been taken away, demand for college graduates has skyrocketed and so tuition costs have risen; we are being squeezed from both sides by rising education demand and cost and low wages and rising prices.

There is no hope for Leftists in America. Our Leftist parties are ineffective, small and unorganized. The Fox-News fed Beckist population is convinced that Communists and Socialists are racist, Nazi-loving totalitarian scum. With the Tea party breaking away from the Republicans and starting to form their own party, we're practically on the verge of another McCarthyist Red Scare. Millions believe that Obama is a Socialist, many even believe that he's a Communist spy sent to sabotage our government. The Beckists and the Tea Party even believe that Leftists are plotting for insurrection! The Communists are hated, the Socialists are called Nazis, and the Anarchists are just as ineffective and unorganized as they are everywhere.

The only hope for Leftists is in other countries in Europe, Asia, Latin America. Americans get steamed up and start waving pitchforks at the mere accusation that someone might be a Socialist (Obama was branded one simply for practicing textbook Keynesian economics!). If we were to actually attempt anything, the result would be military backlash the likes of which no revolutionary force could challenge. We are too outnumbered, too hated, too misunderstood here in America.

Broletariat
26th May 2010, 04:56
^ That was maybe one of the most depressing and defeatist things I've ever read

Chimurenga.
26th May 2010, 06:02
Our Proletariat has disappeared

So, every American worker owns their own business now? :confused:


There is no hope for Leftists in America. Our Leftist parties are ineffective, small and unorganized.

Right, so what are you doing to change that?


The Fox-News fed Beckist population is convinced that Communists and Socialists are racist, Nazi-loving totalitarian scum.

Only two million people watch Becks program daily (out of 305 mil population).


Millions believe that Obama is a Socialist, many even believe that he's a Communist spy sent to sabotage our government.

Millions of people still support him regardless.


The Communists are hated, the Socialists are called Nazis, and the Anarchists are just as ineffective and unorganized as they are everywhere.

What else is new?


If we were to actually attempt anything, the result would be military backlash the likes of which no revolutionary force could challenge. We are too outnumbered, too hated, too misunderstood here in America

How can you be so sure? An actual leftist insurrection has never been attempted and smaller factions have succeeded before. Internationally, the US has been defeated countless times by countries with a Socialist ideology backing their warfare. That is something that reactionaries in the US don't have. They have an uncertain nationalism and that's about it.

Nuvem
26th May 2010, 09:19
By the Proletariat vanishing I mean in the traditional sense of the Industrial Proletariat. Our working class has no sense of class whatsoever and indeed the number of industrial workers has plummeted ever since about the 80s. Yes, only about 2 million watch Beck, but many millions more essentially follow his line of thinking. The millions who support Obama are no less of a problem than those who believe he's a Socialist, they're still Capitalists.

I'm not being defeatist, I'm simply being realistic. This country is not where our potential lies. I'll organize, I'll demonstrate, I'll make noise and stir the cauldron and attempt to educate people, but there's no hope for an actual Leftist takeover of the USA. That's the beautiful part of us Leftists; we're internationalists. I have no qualms about picking up, leaving and working towards Socialism in some other nation. In fact, I believe the much more prudent course of action is to work outside the USA and form a strong basis of Leftist nations before ever considering truly revolutionary action within the USA. Due to our internationalism, I'd say it's rather nationalistic to say that leaving and trying to work abroad is a "coward's way out", since workers and therefore Leftists have no borders. Was Che a coward for leaving Argentina and choosing instead to make revolution in Cuba, the Congo and Bolivia?
The worldwide revolution requires baby steps, and a giant leap towards the heart of The Beast itself is suicide.

Soviet Reunion
28th May 2010, 06:16
Then perhaps what the Left needs is to no longer rely on the traditional labor union methods to generate a movement for workers' rights and awareness of their issues and struggles. It's definitely hard to relate today's proletarian environment to that of the proletariat of 70 or 80 years ago. It is all relative.

JacobVardy
30th May 2010, 09:22
The Fox-News fed Beckist population is convinced that Communists and Socialists are racist, Nazi-loving totalitarian scum.

Don't get too depressed mate. Beck's ratings have been plummeting ever since he started taking himself seriously. And most Yankees are far to the left of the mainstream discourse.

One example. After the 'Battle of Seattle' Rand Corporation did some polling. After a week of universally hostile media coverage, 30% of Yanks said that they were 'proud' of the protesters. So it seams like about 1 in 3 of you think that rioting and trashing banks is generally a good idea. Not a bad place to start.

MilkmanofHumanKindness
30th May 2010, 10:12
Leaving the U.S is a horrible idea and strategy. We need to stay and build socialism, if the Revolutionary Left runs away from the U.S, what will happen? Absolutely nothing. We'd just get to watch as oppression increases, society continues its' slide to the far right, we see the beginnings of re-segregation.

Lenin and Trotsky were exiled, but they never said, "Awww screw it, conditions in X country are much better anyway, no Gulags or Czar there." Because if they did, there would be no Revolution.

It is a moral imperative for us to passionately and persuasively fight against Capitalist exploitation. Running away, can and never will help anyone.



I'm not being defeatist, I'm simply being realistic. This country is not where our potential lies. I'll organize, I'll demonstrate, I'll make noise and stir the cauldron and attempt to educate people, but there's no hope for an actual Leftist takeover of the USA.

Perhaps not in this generation, but we're slowly seeing a crawl to the left. Healthcare Reform, while definitely not the ideal, was and is an important sign. Obama's election was an important sign. We are sitting on a point, poised to go Left or Right, these next few years are critical to the development of Socialism not only in the U.S but across the world.



That's the beautiful part of us Leftists; we're internationalists. I have no qualms about picking up, leaving and working towards Socialism in some other nation.

Definitely agree with you, I feel however that it is more important to destroy the beast, then to build up revolution in other lands.



Due to our internationalism, I'd say it's rather nationalistic to say that leaving and trying to work abroad is a "coward's way out", since workers and therefore Leftists have no borders. Was Che a coward for leaving Argentina and choosing instead to make revolution in Cuba, the Congo and Bolivia?
The worldwide revolution requires baby steps, and a giant leap towards the heart of The Beast itself is suicide.

I'd argue that it's going to take time, but slowly we can gain support. Obviously no one is suggesting we run out armed waving the red flag, right now. The truly revolutionary action is to build class consciousness and mobilize workers.