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Red Commissar
16th May 2010, 20:38
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gEzrWie-61HrryJFM1_vMn2yBaTQ


JERUSALEM — Renowned Jewish-American scholar and political activist Noam Chomsky said he was barred from entering Israel and the West Bank on Sunday to speak at a Palestinian university.

Chomsky had been invited to speak on Monday at Bir Zeit University near Ramallah, but was stopped from entering the West Bank at the Israeli-controlled crossing from Jordan, he told Israel's Channel 10 television.

"I went with my daughter and two old friends. We went in the normal way to the border where we were all interrogated. They were particularly interested in me," he told Channel 10, speaking from Jordan.

Chomsky said the Israeli border officials were "very polite" as they "transmitted inquiries from the ministry of the interior."

However, he was denied entry because "the government did not like the kinds of things I say and they did not like that I was only talking at Bir Zeit and not at an Israeli university too," he said.

"I asked them if they could find any government in the world that likes the things I say," Chomsky said.

A spokeswoman from Israel's interior ministry, which controls the country's borders, said Chomsky was still at the border and may yet be given permission to enter the West Bank.

"We are checking it with security officials" Sabin Hadad told AFP.

She said the decision not to allow him in appeared to be "some kind of a misunderstanding," and added Chomsky was "not on any (black) list."

Palestinian lawmaker Mustafa Barghuti, who had invited Chomsky to speak at the university, said the scholar had been detained at the border for five hours.

"This act shows the nature of the Israeli government that is against freedom of speech, particularly from such a noted international figure like Chomsky," said Barghuti.

Chomsky, 81, is a professor of linguistics at the US Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a prominent critic of US foreign policy. He has also frequently spoken out against Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories.

From what I gather in this article and others, he was coming to the Birzeit University to give a lecture, on the invitation of a Palestinian politician. He tried to enter Israel from the Jordanian side at an Israeli controlled border crossing, where he was denied entry by the soldiers.

Back in 2008 another critic of Israel who was also Jewish, Norman Finkelstein, was denied entry to Israel due to supposed links to what Israel described as hostile elements to their state.

The Israeli interior ministry is claiming this is a misunderstanding and seeking to fix it to allow him in. Your thoughts?

MaoTseHelen
16th May 2010, 23:04
That's pretty funny.

Israel: Bastion of Free Speech.

maskerade
16th May 2010, 23:29
"I asked them if they could find any government in the world that likes the things I say," Chomsky said.

bad ass.

but yea, can we really be surprised? Also interesting that it says entering Israel, when really he was entering the illegally occupied West Bank territories. Hmm

Livid
16th May 2010, 23:50
I am just surprised that they havn't done the old call him a self hating Jew routine.

Red Commissar
17th May 2010, 00:06
At any rate even if Israel gives him clearance, it has probably already cut into his schedule, which may make him not do as much in the university as he originally planned.

Agnapostate
17th May 2010, 02:20
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/noam-chomsky-denied-entry-into-israel-and-west-bank-1.290701


His Palestinian host, lawmaker Mustafa al-Barghouti called the decision "a fascist action, amounting to suppression of freedom of expression."

The Association for Civil Rights in Israel slammed the Interior Ministry for "using detention and deportation to prevent a man from expressing his opinion", calling it "characteristic of a totalitarian regime."


"A democratic country where freedom of expression is a guiding principle does not close in the face of criticism or ideas that are not comfortable and does not deny entry to guests only because it does not accept their opinions. Instead, it deals with these opinions through public discussion," said ACRI in a statement.


Pretty much. I was also amused to see the far-right MK recommending that he attempt entry through an area frequently subject to bombings.


Kadima MK Otniel Schneller, on the other hand, praised the move.
"It's good that Israel did not allow one of its accusers to enter its territory," said Schneller. "I recommend [Chomsky] try one of the tunnels connecting Gaza and Egypt."

Why even pretend to be a member of a democratic government? :lol:

Scary Monster
17th May 2010, 02:24
Also interesting that it says entering Israel, when really he was entering the illegally occupied West Bank territories. Hmm

Lol i know right? :lol: Those zionist scumbags :thumbdown:

AK
17th May 2010, 12:57
Poor Chomsky, he'll never be able to set foot in that Zionist hellhole :(

Red Commissar
17th May 2010, 17:54
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/world/middleeast/18chomsky.html

This article is looking at Israeli reactions to the ordeal. This party made me nearly puke.


“This is a decision of principle between the democratic ideal — and we all want freedom of speech and movement — and the need to protect our existence,” asserted Otniel Schneller, of the centrist Kadima party, on Israel Radio. “Let’s say he came to lecture at Birzeit. What would he say that? That Israel kills Arabs, that Israel is an apartheid state?”

In another three months, Mr. Schneller went on, some Israeli would be standing over her son’s grave, the victim of incitement “in the name of free speech.” People like Mr. Chomsky, he added, do not have to be granted permission to enter.

And unsurprisingly Al Jazeera picked Chomsky up very quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0vvaNM9J0U

Foldered
17th May 2010, 21:08
"I asked them if they could find any government in the world that likes the things I say," Chomsky said.

bad ass.

Yeah, I read that quote and had the same thoughts.

Starport
17th May 2010, 22:13
Mr Chomsky is a good academic and his journalistic exposures are a breath of fresh air and are recommended reading for everyone. But he studiously avoids upsetting his readership by avoiding any call for the dictatorship of the proletariat. Nice bloke though.

Red Commissar
18th May 2010, 02:21
According to this piece here,

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/after-banned-by-israel-chomsky-to-give-bir-zeit-lecture-by-video-from-amman-1.290869

Chomsky will be delivering his lecture from Amman through the internet.

9
18th May 2010, 02:31
I was also amused to see the far-right MK recommending that he attempt entry through an area frequently subject to bombings.


Kadima MK...

Incidentally, Kadima is considered the moderate party - somewhere between Labor and Likud. Which is not to detract from the disgusting nature of the MK's comment but, on the contrary, to put it in the perspective that this is the sort of attitude which passes as "moderate" among Zionists.

Tablo
18th May 2010, 03:38
Mr Chomsky is a good academic and his journalistic exposures are a breath of fresh air and are recommended reading for everyone. But he studiously avoids upsetting his readership by avoiding any call for the dictatorship of the proletariat. Nice bloke though.
Maybe he avoids a call for the dictatorship of the proletariat because he isn't a Marxist.

9
18th May 2010, 03:52
Or because he lacks any clear class analysis..

Tablo
18th May 2010, 07:21
Or because he lacks any clear class analysis..
Non-Marxists simply do not typically support the dictatorship of the proletariat. He is not a Marxist so it is unreasonable for him to support it. Also, let's please avoid a tendency war.

Starport
18th May 2010, 08:22
Non-Marxists simply do not typically support the dictatorship of the proletariat. He is not a Marxist so it is unreasonable for him to support it. Also, let's please avoid a tendency war.

Yes fair enough, but it just leaves his criticisms of "all governments" a bit lame in the context of these increasing international class war conditions and the struggle for some clear understanding of a way forward for the victims of imperialism.

Agnapostate
19th May 2010, 00:19
Mr Chomsky is a good academic and his journalistic exposures are a breath of fresh air and are recommended reading for everyone. But he studiously avoids upsetting his readership by avoiding any call for the dictatorship of the proletariat. Nice bloke though.

What's interesting is that many anarchists (particularly market anarchists), reject his support of any kind of electoral political activity and government reforms as constituting exactly the doctrine of "using the state before it withers away."


Incidentally, Kadima is considered the moderate party - somewhere between Labor and Likud. Which is not to detract from the disgusting nature of the MK's comment but, on the contrary, to put it in the perspective that this is the sort of attitude which passes as "moderate" among Zionists.

Apologies, I don't know much about contemporary Israeli electoral politics outside of the kibbutzim, and had thought that Kadima was the successor to Likud.

NGNM85
19th May 2010, 02:03
"I asked them if they could find any government in the world that likes the things I say,"

I love that line.

This is unfortunate, but unsurprising. The Israeli government has made it clear it's not interested in respecting the right to free expression, or any other fundamental human rights.