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ChrisK
14th May 2010, 06:41
I've been tossing around an idea in my head fairly recently about the nature of comedy and the revolution. I am beginning to wonder if we are ignoring a tool that could be used to raise class consciousness. Based on the history of comedy and such it seems to me that comedy could be used to get our point across without seeming like nuts to ordinary people.

Historically speaking, satire has been used to raise awarness of certain issues. Jonathon Swift wrote A Modest Proposal to raise awarness of the famine in Ireland. Further, Mark Twain satirized racism and ignorance in many of his writings.

Further down the road, the slapstick of Charlie Chaplin was often used to assault the powers of society. He kicks an immigration officer, criticizes modern working conditions and lampoons Hitler. This sort of comedy pushed for people to become more radical in light of the ridiculous nature of the current system.

Even many stand-up comedians seem to be pushing towards a stronger class consiousness. George Carlin loved pointing out how America was a country for the rich to rule over the poor. Bill Hicks would make fun of modern society and end his routines of a vision in which humans take care of each other. And people loved them and often called them tellers of truth. Also, Mark Steel continues to produce comedy and (formerly) produced shows that would show history from a more marxist perspective.

To paraphrase George Carlin, when you get people to laugh they are more receptive to what you have to say. Are we missing out on a tool that could help raise class consiousness and make people more receptive to our ideas? Could comedy be part of the working class culture that could challenge the ruling class culture?

graymouser
14th May 2010, 15:25
Absolutely. Culture, in all its aspects, is a major part of how the left develops once it's past the point of small propaganda groups. Left papers have had, at different times, gifted cartoonists - I don't identify with the politics of Militant (CWI) but Alan Hardman did some gifted parodic work in its heyday. It's part of the nature of a healthy revolutionary party that it will attract creative workers who will want to develop their own independent culture free of the bourgeoisie. As for the role of comics - well, I certainly don't identify with Bob Avakian but he has this tendency to work Richard Pryor into his work. Comics get to critique society, but at the same time you have to be aware that reactionary ideas can also be worked into comedic form. Contradictions and all. But in a revolutionary party I could see making fun of the bourgeoisie in a variety of ways being part of agitation and even education.

The thing is, it's not a shortcut. 95% of the folks hawking papers today do not belong on a stage doing revolutionary standup, and a "turn to comedy" would not be some kind of panacea. ;) But it's the kind of thing that should be nurtured when it does appear. It'd make fund-raisers and such campaigns a hell of a lot more fun if nothing else.

ckaihatsu
14th May 2010, 16:24
Are we missing out on a tool that could help raise class consiousness and make people more receptive to our ideas? Could comedy be part of the working class culture that could challenge the ruling class culture?


Or... we could go with a slick, high-budget corporate-type ad campaign in major media outlets with strategic branding placements on closely watched celebrities in prime time and late night broadcast slots...!


(See? Actual, real-life comedy content material!!!)


x D

gilhyle
15th May 2010, 22:52
I adore Charlie Chaplins works, I greatly admire comedy, but we must also speak the truth : it is virtually useless politically because of its profoundly amibguous social character.

ChrisK
15th May 2010, 23:21
I think I ought to make it clear that I don't think comedy should replace our current strategies. I'm just thinking it should be added in as a way to further express our ideas and in a different way.

graymouser
16th May 2010, 01:39
I think I ought to make it clear that I don't think comedy should replace our current strategies. I'm just thinking it should be added in as a way to further express our ideas and in a different way.
Totally valid. I was just thinking of various "turns" and the idea of a party doing a "turn to comedy," something like when Gerry Healy's party in Britain recruited a bunch of screen actors, as being itself kind of funny.

If you have a group and it has some talented comics, or people with theater backgrounds who can put together devastating anti-capitalist skits, that's a totally valid part of working class expression.

Gecko
16th May 2010, 03:20
i read somewhere before that stalin was funnier than hell and entertained his comrades with barnyard imitations,dirty puns and jokes,charades..
and who says commies don't have a sense of humor?

blackwave
22nd May 2010, 19:58
Comedy is a very good way of getting across the sense of injustice to people without also frightening them off, so I absolute agree with you.

Ocean Seal
28th May 2010, 03:36
Historically speaking, satire has been used to raise awarness of certain issues. Jonathon Swift wrote A Modest Proposal to raise awarness of the famine in Ireland. Further, Mark Twain satirized racism and ignorance in many of his writings.



A modest proposal was really good slightly disturbing but good I remember having it as a passage on an English test.