UKTV History

[Ian Tomlinson]

Just watched a documentary on Che on UKTV history, and i have got to say, if i was not a communist and was just an a unpolitical guy, i would think Guevara was the worst thing since hitler!

Apaarently, he took great delight in killing and torturing Bolivian peasants, this however, did not suprise those with che who had been with him in Cuba, as he had done it there too:rolleyes:

We need our own news service to counter this imperialist bullshit.

International Terrorism Since 1945 - Che Guevara - Part 1 of 3

Fuck Bourgeosie Propoganda.

If you want to post some good honest docs about che so new socialists can avoid the lies, please do underneath.

Type in the The name of doc on youtube to watch, its shock and awful :(
Thanks

[rednordman]

Indeed, its seems to be more 'infashion' (no irony intended) to be bashing che's legacy than it is to glorify it, like in recent years. I suppose there is always two sides to each arguement though. Infact it can be funny at times. I remember seeing a Daily Mail review moaning how the Che movie was more popular than Tom Cruises 'Valkryie'. The journalist basically ended up defending nazism to make it seem like some sort of injustice that che the movie got better reviews.

Anyhow, the best anti-che documentory I have seen is one where they interviewed a priest, who came out with all this anti-communist rehtoric, all the time while they where showing pictures of him smiling along side the USA flag and trying to look like the epitamy of all that is good. If it was only that simple and black and white.

As for the documentory, I suppose that some people just cannot take the fact that some people of history have different sides to them than just the single image of evil that we have been raised on. Take for example, people who talk about the human sides of dictators such as hitler and mussolini. Yes, we all hate them with a passion, but there was more to them than just the terrible things they did. There was some method - if deluded - in their madness.

In my view, this is no different. The only difference is that che has been allowed to become an icon of a collosal scale. Why, I do not really know as there have been other people who have had similar influence in modern history.

Either way, love him or hate him, I dont think that anyone can deny that he had a very interesting life and demonstrated passion that is to be admired by most. But with the good there is always a bad, and obviously, he did do some bad things. But as a personality, he was conciencious to say the least. Its a shame that people are not allowed to be raised to have a simliar concience and demonstrate passion for what they believe in like he did.

[Starport]

Just watched a documentary on Che on UKTV history, and i have got to say, if i was not a communist and was just an a unpolitical guy, i would think Guevara was the worst thing since hitler!

Apaarently, he took great delight in killing and torturing Bolivian peasants, this however, did not suprise those with che who had been with him in Cuba, as he had done it there too:rolleyes:

We need our own news service to counter this imperialist bullshit.

Thanks for the warning. This is desperate stuff really, given that most of the world knows that its bullshit. The interesting thing is why are they trying to pull stunts like this at this time. I I suppose that imperialism has to do something to try and smokescreen the south American masses from the USA genocidal interventions in the region that would have made Hitler blush.
Oooops I've just been told I can't post a link because I have only posted 7 posts.
I guess you can find your own lists of 'USA intervention in Latin America,' can't you.

[son of man]

The History Channel that we get here on cable TV in New Zealand is absolute shite. Always presented from an American capitalist/imperialist point of view.

Can be fun to watch from an enlightened perspective merely to sift the lies and propaganda from the scant truths.

[ed miliband]

I was looking through my friend's history textbook (for a level history) and they learn about communism in Britain in a section of the course called 'Economic and Political Extremism in Britain ____ - ____' (I can't remember the exact dates it covers). Look at the best-selling historical accounts of communism - all of them tend to portray it as this monstrous ideology that has lead to 800,000,000,000,000 deaths, and this obvious bias is taught as fact.

[Dimentio]

I am tired of history channels. It is mostly - to about 80% - about Hitler, his private life, the private lives of his accomplices, the Third Reich, etc. I find this fascination with fascism/national socialism highly disturbing, as it is taking away attention from things which are happening today.

[AK]

I am tired of history channels. It is mostly - to about 80% - about Hitler, his private life, the private lives of his accomplices, the Third Reich, etc. I find this fascination with fascism/national socialism highly disturbing, as it is taking away attention from things which are happening today.
If it's anything like SBS in Australia, it would include not only Hitler and his accomplices' lives but also 50 re-runs of a doco on the Dresden bombing, more glorification of Churchill and his accomplices, and how communism is the ultimate evil.
Oh, and how Australia is the greatest and an ally of freedom, oppurtunity and hope. And lots and lots of German pornos.

Funnily enough, ABC (the state-owned network) is usually quite critical of the Iraq war.

[Dimentio]

If it's anything like SBS in Australia, it would include not only Hitler and his accomplices' lives but also 50 re-runs of a doco on the Dresden bombing, more glorification of Churchill and his accomplices, and how communism is the ultimate evil.
Oh, and how Australia is the greatest and an ally of freedom, oppurtunity and hope. And lots and lots of German pornos.

Funnily enough, ABC (the state-owned network) is usually quite critical of the Iraq war.

If its History Channel, then its American documentaries about Hitler and Nostradamus as well as some junk documentaries here and there with some loudmouth American presenter. If its the Knowledge Channel or Discovery, its BBC programmes about WW2. I prefer the British ones. They are not so fixated on sensationalism.