BNP and Asians fight on BBC video

[Buddha Samurai Cadre]

Three asian lads in Ripley get called robbers by these racist hitlerites.

Fight ensues.

This is why we need to be on the offensive, most of these BNP men cant fight.

What happened to the minority defence groups that started in wembly?

If anyone has a link please send.

Anyway just thought i would show you this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8663742.stm

[Coggeh]

Just saw it there, bloody hell bnp scumbags can't throw a punch for their lives. How the hell is he allowed still run after clearly starting the fight should be locked up if anything racist scumbag

[Gravedigger01]

fair play to the guy who comes along and tells them to calm down :D

Its funny looking at the guy i the black and grey hoodie. He really didn't want to fight

[Buddha Samurai Cadre]

I know i bet his mates beat the shit out of himlater

[Jimmie Higgins]

Right, how is it that the BNP guys start the fight and then the media reports that the fight started when they guy spit on him?

If it was the other way around, there would have been arrests and the BNP would be whining and demanding that they be arrested.

"Are youse all robbers?" :cursing:http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies2/cursing.gif

[IrishWorker]

lol fair play to the young Londoners for standing up to those fascist pigs.

[Buddha Samurai Cadre]

you could tell theyt were southern faries though.

Soft cotneys haha :)

Jokes jokes

[Aesop]

What pricks, although seeing five grown men breaking into a sweat by 3 youths isn't too bad of a sight.

[brigadista]

self defence is no offence!!!

[Red Commissar]

Right, how is it that the BNP guys start the fight and then the media reports that the fight started when they guy spit on him?

If it was the other way around, there would have been arrests and the BNP would be whining and demanding that they be arrested.

"Are youse all robbers?" :cursing:http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies2/cursing.gif

This is a tactic far-right groups often use. They want to invite violence in as many inflammatory ways as they can, and preferably catch it on tape. They want to play on existing tensions in the country, so it's no surprise the BNP would go after a visible minority like this one that would play into stereotypes.

[pranabjyoti]

Though I am an Asian i.e. Indian. But, I can not feel much sorry in this kind of incidents. "Asians", specially Indians are very much greeted all over the world by reactionary imperialists. Mr. George W Bush often give example of "Indians in USA" to other "minority" groups of USA, specially blacks. During the end time of the apartheid regime of South Africa, the Indian people living there supported the "white apartheid regime". During the aggression on Iraq by US imperialists, when there were a lot of protest worldwide, very little response had been shown in India.
I have discussed some points in a thread called "racism in India" (http://www.revleft.com/vb/racism-india-t132128/index.html). In my opinion, the BNP and other fascists parties are unknowingly serving progress of history. After 1917, there was a mass exodus of upper class Russians to the "West" i.e. capitalist-imperialist countries of the world. If in near or not so far distant future, a revolution will occur in India, there would be a high possibility of such mass exodus and UK, USA are among the top two preferences of Indian elite, because they know English well other than any European language. But, the presence of parties like BNP will reduce this possibility to a high extent and that will strengthen the revolutionary process of India. Though, I have doubt that all the imperialist powers of the world together can contain only 10% of Indian elite population, because the population of India is too big and the elite upper class, though may be a small percentage but even big in comparison to the population of other European countries.
Comrades, though your intentions are right but sorry to say, YOU ARE WORSHIPING THE WRONG GOD. Just try to understand that there are not a very small population of black and Latin American people residing in UK at present, why none of them has so far shown any solidarity with "Asians" of UK? Kindly read the "racism in India" thread and I hope you will understand that. Being an Indian, I am writing this because I KNOW IT'S TRUE AND IT'S MY DUTY TO INFORM OTHERS ABOUT THE REALITY.

[RedAnarchist]

If anyone's interested, Bailey ended up getting 2,438 votes (5.2%), an increase from last time of 2.7%. A Tory won the seat in the end. This isn't anything extraordinary, as all candidates in that constituency apart from the Labour candidate increased their share of the vote (or, if they were standing for the first time, got some of the votes).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/election2010/results/constituency/d74.stm

[Jimmie Higgins]

Though I am an Asian i.e. Indian. But, I can not feel much sorry in this kind of incidents. "Asians", specially Indians are very much greeted all over the world by reactionary imperialists. Mr. George W Bush often give example of "Indians in USA" to other "minority" groups of USA, specially blacks. During the end time of the apartheid regime of South Africa, the Indian people living there supported the "white apartheid regime". During the aggression on Iraq by US imperialists, when there were a lot of protest worldwide, very little response had been shown in India.
I have discussed some points in a thread called "racism in India" (http://www.revleft.com/vb/racism-india-t132128/index.html). In my opinion, the BNP and other fascists parties are unknowingly serving progress of history. After 1917, there was a mass exodus of upper class Russians to the "West" i.e. capitalist-imperialist countries of the world. If in near or not so far distant future, a revolution will occur in India, there would be a high possibility of such mass exodus and UK, USA are among the top two preferences of Indian elite, because they know English well other than any European language. But, the presence of parties like BNP will reduce this possibility to a high extent and that will strengthen the revolutionary process of India. Though, I have doubt that all the imperialist powers of the world together can contain only 10% of Indian elite population, because the population of India is too big and the elite upper class, though may be a small percentage but even big in comparison to the population of other European countries.
Comrades, though your intentions are right but sorry to say, YOU ARE WORSHIPING THE WRONG GOD. Just try to understand that there are not a very small population of black and Latin American people residing in UK at present, why none of them has so far shown any solidarity with "Asians" of UK? Kindly read the "racism in India" thread and I hope you will understand that. Being an Indian, I am writing this because I KNOW IT'S TRUE AND IT'S MY DUTY TO INFORM OTHERS ABOUT THE REALITY.

Racism in India or Hindu nationalism in India are no reason to excuse the xenophobia and anti-immigrant sentiment of organized nativist supremacists in the US or UK. In my experience in the US, south asians reflect a range of politics and economic and social backgrounds, so making a blanket generalization of all Indians just doesn't fit. Another immigrant group that might be used as an example in the US is Persians - in Los Angles there is a large community of wealthy and reactionary Iranian ex-pats who came to the US after the Revolution (in norther California there are also many Persians who were revolutionaries and came to the US to get away from the Shah or away from the repression after the Revolution was pushed back). But just because a large portion of this group are conservatives and against working class politics, does it serve our interests to allow xenophobia against them or for them to be targeted for their background in "the war on terror"? It's the same with right-wing Cubans - many of them are the staunchest and most elitist anticommunists in the US, but any attacks on them on a racial basis should be opposed firmly - if not for their individual direct benefit, just for the cause of not allowing an anti-immigrent precident take root that will hurt working class latinos more that some middle-class Cuban ex-pats.

[pranabjyoti]

Racism in India or Hindu nationalism in India are no reason to excuse the xenophobia and anti-immigrant sentiment of organized nativist supremacists in the US or UK. In my experience in the US, south asians reflect a range of politics and economic and social backgrounds, so making a blanket generalization of all Indians just doesn't fit. Another immigrant group that might be used as an example in the US is Persians - in Los Angles there is a large community of wealthy and reactionary Iranian ex-pats who came to the US after the Revolution (in norther California there are also many Persians who were revolutionaries and came to the US to get away from the Shah or away from the repression after the Revolution was pushed back). But just because a large portion of this group are conservatives and against working class politics, does it serve our interests to allow xenophobia against them or for them to be targeted for their background in "the war on terror"? It's the same with right-wing Cubans - many of them are the staunchest and most elitist anticommunists in the US, but any attacks on them on a racial basis should be opposed firmly - if not for their individual direct benefit, just for the cause of not allowing an anti-immigrent precident take root that will hurt working class latinos more that some middle-class Cuban ex-pats.
Do you allow reactionaries from third world to gather in your own country and use it as a base camp to continue their counter-revolutionary operations? How can you stop them to do that?

[Jimmie Higgins]

Do you allow reactionaries from third world to gather in your own country and use it as a base camp to continue their counter-revolutionary operations? How can you stop them to do that?By organizing the working class that are not reactionary - and building an opposition to reactionary politics in general, not by appeasing anti-working class xenophobes in the hopes that they will oppress some collateral right-wingers in the process of making a section of the working class 2nd class citizens.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that there are more native elitists and reactionaries than Cuban or Indian or any other immigrant group. So opposing right-wing immigrants from Cuba or India or Nicaragua wouldn't do much to stop reactionary views. Again, building an strong left that can counter the reactionary politics is what is going to make a difference - throwing immigrants under the bus and not taking a principled stand for equal rights is counter to building that strong left with roots in the working class.

Also immigration can be very radicalizing for people when they are confronted with a different social reality. Many people who come from petty-bourgeois backgrounds but end up as workers and a part of despised group in their adopted society end up having to reevaluate many political and cultural norms. If not them, their children certainty do. Many comrades I have known have come from religious families in other countries including very conservative Muslim families and Catholic families. And actually one of the main long-time revolutionary organizers at UC Berkeley is Indian and comes from a family that is right-wing and sympathetic with the Hindi nationalist groups. In fact the first radical I ever knew was a Maoist who came from a petty-bourgeois Colombian family and the experiences of being a Latino immigrant and finding himself part of the working class in the US helped radicalize him.

[bailey_187]

Though I am an Asian i.e. Indian. But, I can not feel much sorry in this kind of incidents. "Asians", specially Indians are very much greeted all over the world by reactionary imperialists. Mr. George W Bush often give example of "Indians in USA" to other "minority" groups of USA, specially blacks. During the end time of the apartheid regime of South Africa, the Indian people living there supported the "white apartheid regime". During the aggression on Iraq by US imperialists, when there were a lot of protest worldwide, very little response had been shown in India.
I have discussed some points in a thread called "racism in India" (http://www.revleft.com/vb/racism-india-t132128/index.html). In my opinion, the BNP and other fascists parties are unknowingly serving progress of history. After 1917, there was a mass exodus of upper class Russians to the "West" i.e. capitalist-imperialist countries of the world. If in near or not so far distant future, a revolution will occur in India, there would be a high possibility of such mass exodus and UK, USA are among the top two preferences of Indian elite, because they know English well other than any European language. But, the presence of parties like BNP will reduce this possibility to a high extent and that will strengthen the revolutionary process of India. Though, I have doubt that all the imperialist powers of the world together can contain only 10% of Indian elite population, because the population of India is too big and the elite upper class, though may be a small percentage but even big in comparison to the population of other European countries.
Comrades, though your intentions are right but sorry to say, YOU ARE WORSHIPING THE WRONG GOD. Just try to understand that there are not a very small population of black and Latin American people residing in UK at present, why none of them has so far shown any solidarity with "Asians" of UK? Kindly read the "racism in India" thread and I hope you will understand that. Being an Indian, I am writing this because I KNOW IT'S TRUE AND IT'S MY DUTY TO INFORM OTHERS ABOUT THE REALITY.

Many older Indians hold reactionary views and are racist to blacks, but most of the younger generation is not.

[pranabjyoti]

Many older Indians hold reactionary views and are racist to blacks, but most of the younger generation is not.
Actually this kind of view is worst then a typical European "racist" view. A typical European racist view is targeted towards a whole race. But, a typical Indian viewpoint is centered around skin color. The darker you are, the more degraded you are in social status. To understand the typical Indian viewpoint, kindly read the "racism in India" thread at http://www.revleft.com/vb/racism-ind...128/index.html (http://www.revleft.com/vb/racism-india-t132128/index.html).
What my regret is Indians have never been criticized as "racist", while the reality is the Indian upper class is worse than the Europeans in this respect. What makes them more poisonous is the fact that their view is originated from a feudal base, while that of Europeans are from a capitalist base. If this aspect of Indians isn't exposed properly to the other people of the world, probably they could do harm to future revolution and revolutionary processes.