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howblackisyourflag
3rd May 2010, 00:15
Just wondering opinions on this, we're so far away from change, do people think we could see a rising tide of anger in the coming years over the financial mess that could lead to something?

Does change happen very slowly and then all of a sudden things tip over and happen very fast? Or do we just try to make small gains?

Here in Ireland for example, the left is tiny, as it is in most other western countries, we have 1 Socialist MEP, noone in Parliament, a few hundred anarchists, socialist republicans etc.

The ruling class are holding all the cards in the deck, 1% own 34% of the wealth, they have hegemony over the people, and prospects for turning the anger into change have so far been non existant.

It gets me very pessimistic thinking just how bad things are around the world are right now and how little individuals can do right now to improve things.

So what are the opinions? Is capitalism going to continue lurching us from crisis to crisis? Or will it all be smashed one day soon?

The Vegan Marxist
3rd May 2010, 00:38
When it comes to America, unfortunately, we're going to see a revolution take place, but it's going to be by the right-wing. Once that starts, the workers will probably grab arms as well towards defensive measures, but it won't be revolution by us, but a revolution against us & the government as well. Scary times are lurking in America, I fear for being a Communist in this country now because of what all is about to happen.

blackwave
3rd May 2010, 00:45
Nothing will change because anti-capitalists are not properly organised. There will be a lot of moaning but very little action.

RadioRaheem84
3rd May 2010, 01:09
In the US, the only action that might take place is right wing. I fear being a leftist in this country now.

Sir Comradical
3rd May 2010, 01:22
Maybe Greece...

Robocommie
3rd May 2010, 04:16
It's very hard to forecast revolution. It's even harder to forecast a successful revolution. Oftentimes the most momentous of events in history happen sporadically, without any warning.

The Vegan Marxist
3rd May 2010, 04:19
It's very hard to forecast revolution. It's even harder to forecast a successful revolution. Oftentimes the most momentous of events in history happen sporadically, without any warning.

Not in daylight that is.

zimmerwald1915
3rd May 2010, 07:31
It's very hard to forecast revolution. It's even harder to forecast a successful revolution. Oftentimes the most momentous of events in history happen sporadically, without any warning.
This bears repeating several times, and then a few moments of silence to let it sink in. This is also why it is so critically important to evaluate the class natures and tendencies of such events once they begin, so as to be able to participate in them and try to develop them to their furthest extent if they contain the potential for such development, and to be able to discern if they do not.