Public has stake in Glasgow Rangers?

[RebelDog]

The state owns 41% of the Lloyds Banking Group. The Lloyds Banking Group has now a 25% stake in Murray International Holdings. Murray International Holdings has a 90% stake in Rangers FC. I make it that technically the British taxpayer owns about 8% of Rangers FC. I am a taxpayer and thus part owner of Rangers. Do you think I will get a ticket for every game and access to the VIP lounge?

[eyedrop]

Nah, but your governmental representative will.

[Sam_b]

Do you think I will get a ticket for every game and access to the VIP lounge?

More importantly, why would you want one?

[Magdalen]

More importantly, why would you want one?

Exactly. Why would you be the slightest bit interested in giving any support to a team with the most rabidly sectarian, racist, anti-Irish, anti-Catholic history and fanbase anywhere in the world?

[Dr Mindbender]

More importantly, why would you want one?

You could have a lot of fun if you brought tins of green, white and orange paint.

[RebelDog]

Exactly. Why would you be the slightest bit interested in giving any support to a team with the most rabidly sectarian, racist, anti-Irish, anti-Catholic history and fanbase anywhere in the world?

There doth not exist any Glasgow Rangers fans without such views?

[Sam_b]

You could get stabbed if you brought tins of green, white and orange paint.

Fixed ;)

[Devrim]

Exactly. Why would you be the slightest bit interested in giving any support to a team with the most rabidly sectarian, racist, anti-Irish, anti-Catholic history and fanbase anywhere in the world?

I don't think that is an accurate reflection of most Rangers fans. Yes, of course there are a significant minority like that, but I really think that most football fans of every club are just normal people with a wide varity of political views.

The club that I support is known as a 'fascist club'. However, there was a large contingent of fans with banners, and I even saw a couple of players, on the Mayday march.

I know people from Glasgow who support Rangers who are socialists.

Yes, there is sectarianism there, and there is nothing at all progresive about unionism. What you are doi g though is stigmatizing a whole group of people as right wing bigots based on their religious background.

I wonder how SWP members would react if this were being done to Muslims.

Devrim

[Tifosi]

I don't think that is an accurate reflection of most Rangers fans. Yes, of course there are a significant minority like that, but I really think that most football fans of every club are just normal people with a wide varity of political views.

The club that I support is known as a 'fascist club'. However, there was a large contingent of fans with banners, and I even saw a couple of players, on the Mayday march.

I know people from Glasgow who support Rangers who are socialists.

Yes, there is sectarianism there, and there is nothing at all progresive about unionism. What you are doi g though is stigmatizing a whole group of peoples right wing bigots based on their religious background.

I wonder how SWP members would react if this were being done to Muslims.

Devrim

Rangers used to (some say they still do) make a lot of money of their bigoted fans, the tickets used to cost £16.90, the Orange away strips (remember for their Dutch players, yea right), not signing Catholic players for years! But that's just the clubs board:rolleyes:

[Dr Mindbender]

Fixed ;)

only if you went during match day.

[Dr Mindbender]

I don't think that is an accurate reflection of most Rangers fans. Yes, of course there are a significant minority like that, but I really think that most football fans of every club are just normal people with a wide varity of political views.

The club that I support is known as a 'fascist club'. However, there was a large contingent of fans with banners, and I even saw a couple of players, on the Mayday march.

I know people from Glasgow who support Rangers who are socialists.

Yes, there is sectarianism there, and there is nothing at all progresive about unionism. What you are doi g though is stigmatizing a whole group of people as right wing bigots based on their religious background.

I wonder how SWP members would react if this were being done to Muslims.

Devrim

bullshit Rangers is a sectarian bag of shite.

Did you know that the red flash on their socks originates from the sectarian song ''we are the billy boys''

Specifically the line ''we're up to our knees in fenian blood''. Any progressives who support Rangers should probably consider that.

[Sam_b]

only if you went during match day.

Wouldn't that be the pont of having tickets?

[Devrim]

the tickets used to cost £16.90,

Try offering a few to Manchester United fans. They would bite them out of your hands at such a cheap price.


bullshit Rangers is a sectarian bag of shite.

Yeah, there is a huge amount of sectarianism mixed up with it. I just have this strange theory that everybody who supports Glasgow Rangers isn't a sectarian. Take for example Alex Ferguson, somebody who grew up supporting Rangers as a kid, and ended up playing for them. Also an ex-shipyard shop steward, and someone who in the past had no problem saying what he thought of their sectarian practices*. Yet as a child and a young man he supported them. Did that make him a sectarian bigot?

My point isn't that Rangers is not connected with sectarianism. Of course it is. My point is that not every, or I would suggest even most, of their supporters are right-wing sectarians.

Devrim

*He is a Lord of the Realm now and tries not to make a fuss, but when he left there at the time, he laid a great deal of blame on Rangers sectarian practises. You see, his wife Cathy, just happens to be a Taig. He used to suggest he was nudged out because of this.

[Dr Mindbender]

Wouldn't that be the pont of having tickets?

I dont know what its like in the Ibrox but i know from first hand experience Manchester United shareholders have their own private booths in the auditorium (i once did a waiting shift at Old Trafford) they're allowed to use at their own convienience. It would be funny as fuck to paint IRA in 6 foot green white and gold letters so its visible from the other side of the stadium.

:lol: