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Antifa94
28th April 2010, 19:34
Russian court bans neo-Nazi group


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By MANSUR MIROVALEV
The Associated Press
Wednesday, April 28, 2010; 11:21 AM

MOSCOW -- The Moscow City Court said Wednesday it had outlawed one of Russia's (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/russia.html?nav=el) largest ultra-nationalist groups for the promotion of neo-Nazi ideology.
The Slavic Union, whose Russian acronym SS intentionally mimicked that used by the Nazis' infamous paramilitary, was declared "extremist," the court said in a statement.
The group's leader said it has tried to promote its far-right agenda legally, and warned that the ban will enrage and embolden Russia's most radical ultranationalists.
"They will burn cars, blow up power stations, kill officials and commit other resonant crimes," Dmitry Demushkin told The Associated Press. "All this will be the result of stupid government policies to eliminate legal nationalism."
Recently, four former Slavic Union activists were sentenced to life in prison for a 2006 explosion targeting non-Slavic traders at a Moscow market that killed 14, including two children, and wounded dozens.
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The ban is part of a Kremlin crackdown on far-right groups that intensified after the January 2009 murder of lawyer Stanislav Markelov and journalist Anastasiya Baburova. Two activists of another ultra-nationalist organization, Russian Image, were charged with the murder.
Earlier this month, a judge was gunned down in Moscow several months after handing down long prison sentences to members of another white supremacy group, the White Wolves, for assaulting and killing non-Slavs.
Russia's ultranationalist movement is so deeply embedded in the country's culture that militant groups have sprouted up around Russia to fight against it. Anti-racist groups regularly spearhead attacks on ultranationalists, sparking revenge assaults in an intensifying clash of ideologies.
In November, the leader of one such group, Ivan Khutorskoy - also known by the nickname Bonebreaker - was shot to death on Moscow's outskirts.
Neo-Nazi and other ultranationalist groups mushroomed in Russia after the 1991 Soviet collapse. The influx of migrant workers and two wars with Chechen separatists triggered xenophobia and a surge in hate crimes.
Racially motivated attacks, often targeting people from Caucasus and Central Asia, peaked in 2008, when 110 were killed and 487 wounded, an independent watchdog, Sova, said. The Moscow Bureau for Human Rights estimated that some 70,000 neo-Nazis were active in Russia - compared with a just few thousand in the early 1990s.
The Slavic Union, active since 1999, claims to have enlisted thousands of them.
The group's founder, Demushkin, was a former skinhead and martial arts expert who boasted a tattooed Nazi swastika on his shoulder. The group advocated for the expulsion of migrant workers from Russia's North Caucasus and ex-Soviet Central Asia.
In the early 2000s, Demushkin told the AP, the group organized dozens of cyber attacks on Muslim and Jewish websites - as well as those of anti-racist organizations and Chechen separatists.
Since 2005, it has helped organize ultranationalist rallies known as Russian Marches that have horrified ordinary Russians with Nazi salutes and anti-Semitic slogans.
Galina Kozhevnikova, Russia's leading expert on ultranationalists from the Sova Center, said, however, that the Slavic Union was losing the support of ultranationalists as they turned to smaller, autonomous cells that conduct independent attacks in a structure she compared to terrorist group al-Qaida.
She said Russia's far-right groups were abandoning hate killings and switching to attacks on officials and the public.
Members of a neo-Nazi group accused of planning to blow up a mosque, a McDonald's restaurant and railway stations in Moscow are currently standing trial.

Antifa94
28th April 2010, 19:36
Finally, the judicial department of Russia is being anti-rightist. However, this will probably result in the assassination of those judges and a large amount of terrorist attacks. We see how well banning the Nazi Party in Bavaria and Prussia in the 20's for limited amounts of time worked out:(.

danyboy27
28th April 2010, 20:02
Finally, the judicial department of Russia is being anti-rightist. However, this will probably result in the assassination of those judges and a large amount of terrorist attacks. We see how well banning the Nazi Party in Bavaria and Prussia in the 20's for limited amounts of time worked out:(.

plus, nothing could stop the governement to ban communist and leftist groups.

gorillafuck
28th April 2010, 20:10
There's another group that poses a much bigger threat than Neo-Nazi groups. It's called the Russian Federation.

Antifa94
28th April 2010, 20:12
Yes, that too.

Red North
28th April 2010, 20:23
I don't understand how anyone living in a country that lost half its population to the nazis on the eastern front could possibly support nazi ideals, and call it national pride, its fucking absurd!

gorillafuck
28th April 2010, 20:28
Do Russian Neo-Nazi's wish that Germany took over Russia, for reasons of national pride in Russia?:confused:

Nosotros
28th April 2010, 20:36
There's another group that poses a much bigger threat than Neo-Nazi groups. It's called the Russian Federation.You're half right, a Nazi Russia would be far worse. I think this is good technically but the Russians should crush the far-right in russia not just ban them and I can't see that happening- yet. How do people think Russian society will cope if Al Qaeda tactics are used instead, would that work in favour of the government or in favour of the nazis?

Nolan
28th April 2010, 20:39
Do Russian Neo-Nazi's wish that Germany took over Russia, for reasons of national pride in Russia?:confused:
Russian neonazis are fucking idiots. Not only do they wish that their country lost to its greatest enemy (some nationalists they are) but they fail to realize that Hitler would have slaughtered or forcefully relocated them.

Nolan
28th April 2010, 20:45
The Russian left is asleep. But it's possible that if nazi violence gets out of control, most people will get sick of their bullshit and the government's bullshit and look left again.

Red North
28th April 2010, 20:48
Russian neonazis are fucking idiots. Not only do they wish that their country lost to its greatest enemy (some nationalists they are) but they fail to realize that Hitler would have slaughtered or forcefully relocated them.

Ya, as far as I know Slavs were on hitler's list to exterminate weren't they?

Foldered
28th April 2010, 20:50
Ya, as far as I know Slavs were on hitler's list to exterminate weren't they?
Yes.

And as far as I know the plan would have been to re-locate them, or get rid of them, as Germany expanded East.

danyboy27
28th April 2010, 20:59
Ya, as far as I know Slavs were on hitler's list to exterminate weren't they?

yes and no, the whole plan was to hold Ukraine and other valuable russian asset, and leave the rest of russia to a puppet state ruled by some autocratic leader that would serve the third reich.

But that possibility disapeared at the moment German soldier and einzatgruppen started slaughtering peoples, loosing any change of negotiation with Stalin or the rulling power.

Nolan
28th April 2010, 21:05
yes and no, the whole plan was to hold Ukraine and other valuable russian asset,

Oh you mean (at least) the entire of European Russia and ethnic cleanse it of slavs.


The Reichskommissariat territories would extend up to the European frontier at the Urals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urals). They were to have been early stages in the displacement and dispossession of Russian and other Slav people and their replacement with German settlers, following the Nazi Lebensraum im Osten plans. When German forces entered Soviet territory, they promptly organized occupation regimes in the first two territories—the Reichskomissariats of Ostland and Ukraine. The defeat of the Sixth Army at the Battle of Stalingrad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad) in 1942, followed by defeat in the Battle of Kursk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk) in July 1943 and the Allied landings in Sicily (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Husky) put an end to the plans' implementation.

Antifa94
28th April 2010, 21:10
antifa moscow+st.petersburg is gaining momentum, actually.

danyboy27
28th April 2010, 21:14
Oh you mean (at least) the entire of European Russia and ethnic cleanse it of slavs.

yes, that what i meant.

But germany wouldnt have been able to control all russia, they would have needed a russian puppet state at one time or another, and that was on plan they drawn back then.

here for the revolution
28th April 2010, 21:36
If the neo-Nazis continue to employ these tactics then the nation as a whole will definitely wish to wipe out the far right. As long as the left keeps their hands clean of dirty tactics they will surely be safe in comparison.

AK
30th April 2010, 10:17
I don't understand how anyone living in a country that lost half its population to the nazis on the eastern front could possibly support nazi ideals, and call it national pride, its fucking absurd!
If you read "respected" Scumfronters' posts to the learners, they claim Hitler was working for the good of the white race, not just Germany.
And when you say that the Nazi party planned to exterminate the Slavs, too, WNs claim that the holocaust never happened. How convenient.