View Full Version : Robust deterrent to US aggression...
rararoadrunner
28th April 2010, 14:27
It's called the "Club-K" Container Missile System.
Here's the URL of an HD promo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xupOQSvnas
If the Iraqis or Afghans had these, these countries could not have been invaded.
If the DPRK had these, it wouldn't need a nuclear weapon deterrent.
On the other hand...as the promo video clearly shows, these systems rely on satellites to signal and guide them, and the Russians don't sell satellites to terrorists, so there's no way terrorists can use them...only governments threatened by those with the weapons platforms depicted in the video.
Also: these need not be conspicuously painted, as depicted in the video: they can be installed in standard intermodal containers, such as those made by China Shipping, OCCL, Matson, K Line, Hyundai, etc. modified to support the platform.
That's why I'm urging all the countries threatened by US aggression to purchase these systems: this is indeed a "game-changer," and, short of nuclear aggression by the US (or anyone else, such as the State of Israel), this should make military aggression prohibitively expensive.
Once US aggression is effectively deterred and US imperialism contained, the US should implode as did the Soviet Union before it...then we shall see what we shall see, in terms of how the class struggle unfolds in the absence of US aggression.
Hasta pronto, y a la victoria, siempre, MKO.
chegitz guevara
28th April 2010, 15:04
Yeah, if someone used one of those against the U.S., the U.S. would almost certainly respond by knocking out the Russian command satellites. When the Chinese allowed the Yugoslavs to use the embassy radio to rebroadcast military commands, the U.S. bombed the Chinese embassy.
danyboy27
28th April 2010, 17:08
well, nice tech and all, but it wouldnt stop the us or any imperialist forces.
someone create a countermeasure, someone else build a counter contermeasure, its been like that for decades.
Robocommie
28th April 2010, 17:17
These just look like standard cruise missiles to me; just with camouflaged launchers and satellite guidance.
Still, pretty cool animation.
rararoadrunner
28th April 2010, 22:33
Yeah, if someone used one of those against the U.S., the U.S. would almost certainly respond by knocking out the Russian command satellites. When the Chinese allowed the Yugoslavs to use the embassy radio to rebroadcast military commands, the U.S. bombed the Chinese embassy.
The command satellite would be Venezuelan-owned, as would be the systems, so any attempt to disable it would be an attack against the Venezuelans, not the Russians: would the Russians really tolerate a side-attack against them? Does the US government dare risk this?
If the systems had a robust survivability, any attempt to disable the satellite would be detected, analysed as preparation for an attack...and responded to before the attack could be carried out.
Again, the advantage of this system is that it makes a preemptive strike against it virtually impossible...one would have to take the whole national transportation infrastructure out with a single blow.
Add it up, comrades: the enemy does, and makes its decisions based upon what serves "US interests" (i.e. US capitalists).
Robocommie
28th April 2010, 22:36
I hardly think our respective revolutions are at the level of making "war room" type decisions right now.
Boru
28th April 2010, 23:46
Yeah, if someone used one of those against the U.S., the U.S. would almost certainly respond by knocking out the Russian command satellites. When the Chinese allowed the Yugoslavs to use the embassy radio to rebroadcast military commands, the U.S. bombed the Chinese embassy.
They wouldn't touch the Russian satellites, it would be a massive nuclear threat.
danyboy27
28th April 2010, 23:56
The command satellite would be Venezuelan-owned, as would be the systems, so any attempt to disable it would be an attack against the Venezuelans, not the Russians: would the Russians really tolerate a side-attack against them? Does the US government dare risk this?
If the systems had a robust survivability, any attempt to disable the satellite would be detected, analysed as preparation for an attack...and responded to before the attack could be carried out.
Again, the advantage of this system is that it makes a preemptive strike against it virtually impossible...one would have to take the whole national transportation infrastructure out with a single blow.
Add it up, comrades: the enemy does, and makes its decisions based upon what serves "US interests" (i.e. US capitalists).
the thing is, just before an attack, nothing would stop the us to send an anti-satellite missile destroy the venezuelian satellite.
such system is also vulnerable to electronics countermeasure like electromagnetic jamming or sofisticated radar tracking missile.
The possibility to also send a jamming signal dirrectly to the satellite and render it completly useless is i think a possibility.
has i said earlier, you create a threat, someone create something to counter it.
which doctor
29th April 2010, 00:11
The discussion is completely pointless.
edit: but after watching that video, I'm reminded of playing red alert, which I think subconsciously set me on the track to becoming a communist
The Vegan Marxist
29th April 2010, 00:24
They wouldn't touch the Russian satellites, it would be a massive nuclear threat.
I agree completely. The U.S. would never touch the Russian satellites if they're smart. A nuclear war with the Russians would be a very bad call for them.
Rusty Shackleford
29th April 2010, 05:26
a few points.
this type of package is great for any developing military or non heavily militarized nation.
this type of package is great for any nation that must hide its defenses.
this type of package would have to be bought in bulk to counter any large invading force like the US, UK, Russia, Iran, India, China etc... its not going to be a clean sweep like this video shows it. obviously these two states are the size of something like wisconsin.
there is no wonder weapon.
anyways. if anyone is going to end up buying these in bulk, it will probably be venezuela. they have a long record of buying weapons from russia, and something like this is PERFECT for their situation, it almost seems that it was designed for venezuela.
other than that though...
I hardly think our respective revolutions are at the level of making "war room" type decisions right now.
EDIT: say the maoists win the peoples war, there would be no need for them to have this. they have nepal.
Dimentio
29th April 2010, 09:16
I am bothered with the fact that the truck is too small for the cargo...
:D
The Inquisitor
29th April 2010, 09:27
Seems to be about as effective as throwing a wooden spear, in terms of being a deterrent for US aggression.
~Spectre
29th April 2010, 09:30
Seems to be about as effective as throwing a wooden spear, in terms of being a deterrent for US aggression.
Eh I wouldn't be so sure. A country like Iran, in conjunction with the Russian air defense missiles they are getting, could theoretically guarantee the destruction of most Middle Eastern oil infrastructure if they bought enough of these. That type of thing gives U.S. planners nightmares.
The Inquisitor
29th April 2010, 09:42
Eh I wouldn't be so sure. A country like Iran, in conjunction with the Russian air defense missiles they are getting, could theoretically guarantee the destruction of most Middle Eastern oil infrastructure if they bought enough of these. That type of thing gives U.S. planners nightmares.
That seems kind of like a "Don't come closer or I'll jump!" thing, but I completely see your point.
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