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The Douche
26th April 2010, 17:31
So a good friend of mine as just gotten into a relationship with a girl who is going to school for law enforcement.

I was the only one to make a big deal about this, and our radical friends have told me to lay off, but other (non-radical) friends have backed me up. She told me she no longer wants to become a cop, but that shit is still her major in school. I have been investigated before, by federal and local authorities. So obviously I think its bad to have a cop or aspiring cop or cop sympathizer around.

Also this friend is very finicky about girls, and the defense that has been used, even by him, is that it "won't last long anyways" so I should just lighten up cause she'll "be gone in a month or two". But that is still enough time to do damage, and if he makes her mad, she has all kinds of dirt on him and his friends that she can hold over us if she feels he wronged her.

Revy
26th April 2010, 17:43
I thought you *literally* meant a pig. I was about to say "Hope your friend doesn't live in Florida because they made bestiality officially illegal last year".

I'm not sure what you could say, besides bringing up that a diet high in donuts tends to lead to weight gain.

The Douche
26th April 2010, 17:48
I just don't get why some people, especially radical people, are ok with it.

revolution inaction
26th April 2010, 18:13
I thought you meant some one really ugly :D

Robocommie
26th April 2010, 18:23
Buy her an Ice-T CD and hope she gets the hint.

Mindtoaster
26th April 2010, 18:52
Buy her an Ice-T CD and hope she gets the hint.

Isn't he a cop in Law and Order?

punisa
26th April 2010, 20:10
No need to make a fuss about it.
My friend is dating a girl who is studying economics, so he is potentially dating a member of the "ruling elite".

What I would suggest in this situation is that you both indoctrinate her with leftist ideology, so she becomes your mole inside the force :thumbup1:

this is an invasion
26th April 2010, 20:33
No need to make a fuss about it.
My friend is dating a girl who is studying economics, so he is potentially dating a member of the "ruling elite".

What I would suggest in this situation is that you both indoctrinate her with leftist ideology, so she becomes your mole inside the force :thumbup1:
This is the worst idea yet. I really hope you aren't being serious.

Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
26th April 2010, 21:08
I only date Randians. They're so focused on their own pleasure and care nothing for other people. It's just so kinky. Just kidding - though I have to wonder...

I wouldn't worry to much about that stuff. She hasn't made a career out of it yet. I could learn business and take a secret course on how to exploit third world nations. As long as I don't exploit third world nations, information is interesting and powerful in a variety of cases. Even if she did work as an officer, there are gentle arms of the state, so to speak, that aren't as bad and sometimes even give us small benefits. There are far worse things a person can be. At least the profession can show a person has their heart in the right place. That is, unless they just want to shoot up bad guys and drive fast.

Tifosi
26th April 2010, 23:08
You better hope she isn't reading this. Would be a bit of an awkward moment next time you see her if she is :laugh::laugh:. Walls have ears you know...

which doctor
26th April 2010, 23:28
I just don't get why some people, especially radical people, are ok with it.
Maybe because unless your a 'fuck shit up' kind of anarchist, cops really aren't the enemy, especially in a non-revolutionary time like we are living in now, and will continue to live in in the foreseeable future. Cops are just doing their job like the rest of us, there's nothing inherently evil about them. That's not to say there aren't any cops that are really sadistic and enjoy slamming the bad guys against the hoods of their squad cars, but this is not always the case, and there is no need to label an entire profession as our enemies.

S.Artesian
26th April 2010, 23:54
Maybe because unless your a 'fuck shit up' kind of anarchist, cops really aren't the enemy, especially in a non-revolutionary time like we are living in now, and will continue to live in in the foreseeable future. Cops are just doing their job like the rest of us, there's nothing inherently evil about them. That's not to say there aren't any cops that are really sadistic and enjoy slamming the bad guys against the hoods of their squad cars, but this is not always the case, and there is no need to label an entire profession as our enemies.


Right. Sure. And all those investment bankers? They're not the enemy either. They're just doing their job like the rest of us. Sure.

The point is exactly that, what their job is, and no that's not like the jobs of the rest of us. They're cops-- the armed bodies of the state-- there to defend property.

They're not the enemy? Sure, that's why they film everybody who's at demonstrations. Infiltrate organizations, act as provocateurs, plant evidence... all that friendly neighborhood shit.

Tell your friend "no cops, no way."

Revy
26th April 2010, 23:59
...apparently, I was wrong (http://cbs4.com/local/bestiality.law.senate.2.1657269.html). You can still date a pig in Florida. Or maybe not. Perhaps you could be jailed under animal cruelty laws....

Angry Young Man
27th April 2010, 00:09
I thought you meant some one really ugly :D

This.

Crux
27th April 2010, 00:15
Let's hope she is serious about dropping out.

Red North
27th April 2010, 00:35
Right. Sure. And all those investment bankers? They're not the enemy either. They're just doing their job like the rest of us. Sure.

The point is exactly that, what their job is, and no that's not like the jobs of the rest of us. They're cops-- the armed bodies of the state-- there to defend property.

They're not the enemy? Sure, that's why they film everybody who's at demonstrations. Infiltrate organizations, act as provocateurs, plant evidence... all that friendly neighborhood shit.

Tell your friend "no cops, no way."

Investment bankers work with money, they get greedy and corrupted easily. Cops don't make a hell of alot, and they don't have much economic power. Sure, some cops are corrupt, but I've had alot of run-ins with cops that have ended well. When I was 16 I got caught drinking in public and bare knuckle boxing with a buddy downtown, the cops told us to watch out for crack heads and have a fun night. Cops like that hardly seem to be my enemies.

S.Artesian
27th April 2010, 01:01
Investment bankers work with money, they get greedy and corrupted easily. Cops don't make a hell of alot, and they don't have much economic power. Sure, some cops are corrupt, but I've had alot of run-ins with cops that have ended well. When I was 16 I got caught drinking in public and bare knuckle boxing with a buddy downtown, the cops told us to watch out for crack heads and have a fun night. Cops like that hardly seem like my enemy.

Not a matter of corruption. Matter of class struggle, of status quo.

Interesting story you tell, downright touching. Should I tell you mine, about my friends, being rousted for no reason, forced face down onto the street with guns to their heads... and their crime.... the crime of being black.

I'm guessing you're white.

Os Cangaceiros
27th April 2010, 01:06
I don't agree with everything that (former RevLeft user) redstar2000 wrote about, but I do think that his piece (http://rs2kpapers.awardspace.com/theory404b.html?subaction=showfull&id=1082819752&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&) about the police is dead-on, and captures me thoughts quite well:


It bothers me when people say "there are good cops." I don't understand what they mean by "good".

When we had a cop trolling our board a few months ago, I suggested a possible definition of a "good cop"...essentially one who had the eyes of an eagle when it came to tracking down murderers, rapists, etc. but who was blind as a bat when it came to persecuting hookers, junkies, drug dealers, the homeless, demonstrators, etc.

Naturally, I got the predictable response: "we don't make the law, we just enforce it."

Now consider what that really implies: if a cop is ordered to track down a murder, he does it. If he's ordered to beat the shit out of demonstrators, he does it. If he's ordered to round up the Jews for "special treatment" (execution), he DOES IT!

He's a professional who "carries out his orders" no matter what.

I suggest that such an "individual" is beyond good or evil; he has voluntarily surrendered his humanity and become a machine. Machines are not "good" or "bad"; machines either "work" or "don't work." That's all.

No one disputes the tautology that our enemy is the capitalist class. But it is the enemy's machines that directly confront us...it is this thing that looks like a human but acts like a machine that will kill us if it is ordered to do so (and may do that anyway, like any other potentially deadly malfunctioning machine.)

Please do not suggest that I am "dehumanizing" cops. No one makes you take up a career in "law enforcement" (real name: professional killer). They have dehumanized themselves.

Perhaps it will sound "harsh" to many ears...but there's no ethical difference between killing a cop and burning a cop car. They're both tools of our class enemy.

I think that whether cops are "good" or "bad" as people is mostly irrelevant in comparison to what their societal role is...the example I commonly use is "scabs". I would submit that there are probably quite a few scabs/strike-breakers who are "good people", but that doesn't make their social function any less contemptable.

Red North
27th April 2010, 01:20
Not a matter of corruption. Matter of class struggle, of status quo.

Interesting story you tell, downright touching. Should I tell you mine, about my friends, being rousted for no reason, forced face down onto the street with guns to their heads... and their crime.... the crime of being black.

I'm guessing you're white.

Yes, I am white, but that seems irrelevant. In my country discrimination such as that is much less prevalent. Its not very often that you hear about racially motivated police brutality, especially since whites are a minority in my part of town. Like I said, some cops are corrupt. By the sounds of it those cops making the generalization that all black people are criminals is what caused the problem, by generalizing and hating cops based on the assumption that they all are corrupt just feeds the cycle of hatred. In every class, every work place, every group you can think of, there are gonna be assholes, but there are also gonna be truly good people. I'm not saying I support the police and what they represent, but I'm not going to hate every single one of them for it.

this is an invasion
27th April 2010, 01:20
Investment bankers work with money, they get greedy and corrupted easily. Cops don't make a hell of alot, and they don't have much economic power. Sure, some cops are corrupt, but I've had alot of run-ins with cops that have ended well. When I was 16 I got caught drinking in public and bare knuckle boxing with a buddy downtown, the cops told us to watch out for crack heads and have a fun night. Cops like that hardly seem to be my enemies.
Cops actually make a decent amount of money. Starting wage in the Bay Area is like 60,000 or something like that. Anyway.

This isn't about some nice cops you may have met. No one is going to deny that there are nice cops. Cops are people, and there are good people and bad people. Thats not the issue here. The issue is the function the police play. They are there to protect private property, protect the ruling class, and enforce laws that ultimately lock up poor people (most of the time for non-violent crimes).

black magick hustla
27th April 2010, 01:24
No need to make a fuss about it.
My friend is dating a girl who is studying economics, so he is potentially dating a member of the "ruling elite".

What I would suggest in this situation is that you both indoctrinate her with leftist ideology, so she becomes your mole inside the force :thumbup1:

i think there is difference between studying economics and being a cop. a cop can throw dirt at you and can fuck you and your radical friends. it has very little to do with principles.

The Red Next Door
27th April 2010, 01:28
Maybe because unless your a 'fuck shit up' kind of anarchist, cops really aren't the enemy, especially in a non-revolutionary time like we are living in now, and will continue to live in in the foreseeable future. Cops are just doing their job like the rest of us, there's nothing inherently evil about them. That's not to say there aren't any cops that are really sadistic and enjoy slamming the bad guys against the hoods of their squad cars, but this is not always the case, and there is no need to label an entire profession as our enemies.

:thumbup1:

Red North
27th April 2010, 01:43
Cops actually make a decent amount of money. Starting wage in the Bay Area is like 60,000 or something like that. Anyway.

This isn't about some nice cops you may have met. No one is going to deny that there are nice cops. Cops are people, and there are good people and bad people. Thats not the issue here. The issue is the function the police play. They are there to protect private property, protect the ruling class, and enforce laws that ultimately lock up poor people (most of the time for non-violent crimes).

That is very true, alot of the laws that the cops enforce lead to people who didn't do much wrong ending up behind bars. But they also lock up the neo-nazis who seem to enjoy jumping gays, foreigners, emo kids, jews, and fire bombing the houses of communists. I have friends who are gay, I have friends who are foreign, I have friends who are emo kids, I have friends who are Jews, and I'm a Communist. So I'd say the cops don't just protect the ruling class, they help keep people from being shit kicked for their views, orientation, or ethnicity, at least in this country anyway. But I know things with the cops are different state-side.

this is an invasion
27th April 2010, 01:47
That is very true, alot of the laws that the cops enforce lead to people who didn't do much wrong ending up behind bars. But they also lock up the neo-nazis who seem to enjoy jumping gays, foreigners, emo kids, jews, and fire bombing the houses of communists. I have friends who are gay, I have friends who are foreign, I have friends who are emo kids, I have friends who are Jews, and I'm a Communist. So I'd say the cops don't just protect the ruling class, they help keep people from being shit kicked for their views, orientation, or ethnicity, at least in this country anyway. But I know things with the cops are different state-side.
Nah, they lock people up after they've kicked the shit out of someone. Not to mention that cops are just as guilty of attacking innocent people for being gay, Jewish, Black, etc.

We should not be relying on the police to keep our streets safe from scumbags like neo-nazis.

Os Cangaceiros
27th April 2010, 01:51
So cops are friends of gay people and foreigners now? :rolleyes:

Red North
27th April 2010, 01:52
Nah, they lock people up after they've kicked the shit out of someone. Not to mention that cops are just as guilty of attacking innocent people for being gay, Jewish, Black, etc.

We should not be relying on the police to keep our streets safe from scumbags like neo-nazis.

I base that on what i see where I live. In Canada there's alot less police brutality bred from intolerance. The cops are cracking down alot more on the neo nazis, especially since they've started bombing things and they're growing in numbers

Red North
27th April 2010, 01:54
So cops are friends of gay people and foreigners now? :rolleyes:

Ya, like i explained earlier I'm Canadian, we tend to be more tolerant up here, especially since foreigners make up a large portion of the population, and most of us don't oppose gay marriage.

this is an invasion
27th April 2010, 02:00
I base that on what i see where I live. In Canada there's alot less police brutality bred from intolerance. The cops are cracking down alot more on the neo nazis, especially since they've started bombing things and they're growing in numbers
I know what you're saying. And I'm saying that police brutality is not the problem (it is a problem, but not the problem). The problem is that there are police at all.

Red North
27th April 2010, 02:05
I know what you're saying. And I'm saying that police brutality is not the problem (it is a problem, but not the problem). The problem is that there are police at all.

True, it's about time that society evolves to the point that cops aren't needed, its just a matter of dealing with the people who are a threat to innocent people, which could be difficult cause there's so many of them.

Bilan
27th April 2010, 02:08
I just don't get why some people, especially radical people, are ok with it.

Because you don't choose who you're attracted to.

black magick hustla
27th April 2010, 02:13
idk man i been attracted to some people who seem p. crazy and acknowledging them as potential self destruction i steer away

S.Artesian
27th April 2010, 02:20
Yes, I am white, but that seems irrelevant. In my country discrimination such as that is much less prevalent. Its not very often that you hear about racially motivated police brutality, especially since whites are a minority in my part of town. Like I said, some cops are corrupt. By the sounds of it those cops making the generalization that all black people are criminals is what caused the problem, by generalizing and hating cops based on the assumption that they all are corrupt just feeds the cycle of hatred. In every class, every work place, every group you can think of, there are gonna be assholes, but there are also gonna be truly good people. I'm not saying I support the police and what they represent, but I'm not going to hate every single one of them for it.


Fuck, yeah, right. Things are so much nicer in Canada. Cops are so much better. They're your friends, they'll hold your hand when you cross the street, call your mommy when you get lost.

It's not about individuals being assholes, its about the social function; the power relations that cops enforce.

Go tell the Greek workers and students on strike, facing the cops, how "you don't know" all cops aren't bad guys, they're not corrupt. See where it gets you.

Tell those in the banlieue of Paris how the cops aren't the bad guys. Try Mexico next.

And when you're done convincing them, try the autoworkers in South Korea who when striking had to defend themselves against police assault.

Give it a break. It's not about who's nice to you, or who's not. It's about social function.

Morgenstern
27th April 2010, 02:25
In some societies a man shouldn't have any relationship of any sort with a woman because she may be seen as "not fit". So people in that society intervene and persuade against in.

In this case you see your friend dating a girl who you see "unfit" and you are telling him who to not be attracted to. Your friend is a big boy, don't do anything about it. Even if he's some revolutionary, if he is truly a revolutionary he'll know to jump ship eventually.

this is an invasion
27th April 2010, 02:25
Fuck, yeah, right. Things are so much nicer in Canada. Cops are so much better. They're your friends, they'll hold your hand when you cross the street, call your mommy when you get lost.

It's not about individuals being assholes, its about the social function; the power relations that cops enforce.

Go tell the Greek workers and students on strike, facing the cops, how "you don't know" all cops aren't bad guys, they're not corrupt. See where it gets you.

Tell those in the banlieue of Paris how the cops aren't the bad guys. Try Mexico next.

And when you're done convincing them, try the autoworkers in South Korea who when striking had to defend themselves against police assault.

Give it a break. It's not about who's nice to you, or who's not. It's about social function.
You could just tell the broke people that probably live in your neighborhood that and see what they say.

bcbm
27th April 2010, 02:39
the friendly canadian police

0pbsztgjvfU

they love protecting foreigners too!

Ans0-SN2XnA

acab, come on yall

Red North
27th April 2010, 02:45
Fuck, yeah, right. Things are so much nicer in Canada. Cops are so much better. They're your friends, they'll hold your hand when you cross the street, call your mommy when you get lost.

It's not about individuals being assholes, its about the social function; the power relations that cops enforce.

Go tell the Greek workers and students on strike, facing the cops, how "you don't know" all cops aren't bad guys, they're not corrupt. See where it gets you.

Tell those in the banlieue of Paris how the cops aren't the bad guys. Try Mexico next.

And when you're done convincing them, try the autoworkers in South Korea who when striking had to defend themselves against police assault.

Give it a break. It's not about who's nice to you, or who's not. It's about social function.

Ok ok, I was playing devil's advocate. Like I said I don't support the police or what they represent, and I certainly don't support the social hierarchy. However, how do you propose to create a society without them? People don't seem to be capable of keeping society from falling into complete chaos without someone to keep things from getting out of hand these days.

Red North
27th April 2010, 02:55
the friendly canadian police

0pbsztgjvfU

they love protecting foreigners too!

Ans0-SN2XnA

acab, come on yall

You really didn't get what I was trying to say. I'm not saying Canadian cops are incapable of terrible things, but there's alot less of these sort of incidents in Canada than there are in some other countries.

bcbm
27th April 2010, 02:55
doesn't matter, acab

this is an invasion
27th April 2010, 03:07
doesn't matter, acab
this.

stop apologizing for and supporting pigs.

Red North
27th April 2010, 03:08
doesn't matter, acab

What does acab mean?

bcbm
27th April 2010, 03:13
dmsMNA0qIFw

Robocommie
27th April 2010, 03:43
Isn't he a cop in Law and Order?

He is, and the character he plays is a registered Republican, which is just so weird to me. It's almost as weird as the fact that Chris Meloni, who also plays a cop on that show, was a sex offender and murderer in the prison drama Oz.

bcbm
27th April 2010, 03:56
Chris Meloni, who also plays a cop on that show, was a sex offender and murderer in the prison drama Oz.

sounds like an easier leap to make to me

Robocommie
27th April 2010, 03:57
sounds like an easier leap to make to me

Yeah a few months back in my city we had a high profile court case for a local cop who had been raping women for several years.

Robocommie
27th April 2010, 03:58
What does acab mean?

All Cops Are Bastards.

The Douche
27th April 2010, 04:18
You folks saying it doesn't matter, and there are good cops...

What the fuck? Are you not living in the same world as I am?

I dunno about you, but where I'm from being an active revolutionary is pretty fucking against the rules, and the cops don't take to kindly to it.

As a person who has been harassed by the police, has been spied on and bugged by the FBI/DHS, has had friends sent up to gran juries, and had thier homes raided by terrorism task forces, I am pretty fuckin concerned about having a cop just hanging around.

cska
27th April 2010, 04:25
Also this friend is very finicky about girls, and the defense that has been used, even by him, is that it "won't last long anyways" so I should just lighten up cause she'll "be gone in a month or two". But that is still enough time to do damage, and if he makes her mad, she has all kinds of dirt on him and his friends that she can hold over us if she feels he wronged her.

Oh so your friend wants to have his fun and then just dump her? Tell your friend to go to hell.

S.Artesian
27th April 2010, 04:33
Ok ok, I was playing devil's advocate. Like I said I don't support the police or what they represent, and I certainly don't support the social hierarchy. However, how do you propose to create a society without them? People don't seem to be capable of keeping society from falling into complete chaos without someone to keep things from getting out of hand these days.

Absolutely propose to create a society without cops; just as we propose to create a society without capitalists, without bankers, without security guards, without a standing military, without racism, without poverty... all those things that define capitalism and its property, without cruise missiles, white phosphorous artillery rounds, etc. etc..

That's exactly what we propose. I wouldn't be involved in this if that wasn't what we're proposing.

Red North
27th April 2010, 04:48
Absolutely propose to create a society without cops; just as we propose to create a society without capitalists, without bankers, without security guards, without a standing military, without racism, without poverty... all those things that define capitalism and its property, without cruise missiles, white phosphorous artillery rounds, etc. etc..

That's exactly what we propose. I wouldn't be involved in this if that wasn't what we're proposing.

There are always going to be assholes who want to fuck with things though. I'd be happy to see society with no cops, but we'd have to find another way to keep people from committing crimes against others, and a way to hold those who do accountable for their actions.

S.Artesian
27th April 2010, 05:35
There are always going to be assholes who want to fuck with things though. I'd be happy to see society with no cops, but we'd have to find another way to keep people from committing crimes against others, and a way to hold those who do accountable for their actions.

Look into the origin of overwhelming majority of crimes in the US and the economic status of most prisoners.

Single unifying factor: poverty. Eliminate the poverty you eliminate the crime.

Red North
27th April 2010, 05:49
Look into the origin of overwhelming majority of crimes in the US and the economic status of most prisoners.

Single unifying factor: poverty. Eliminate the poverty you eliminate the crime.

That is very true. But there is still gonna be people with mental disorders who will feel compelled to commit crimes, such as sociopaths and serial killers. We will still need some way of dealing with them, and preventing them from hurting people.

Barry Lyndon
27th April 2010, 07:32
Maybe because unless your a 'fuck shit up' kind of anarchist, cops really aren't the enemy, especially in a non-revolutionary time like we are living in now, and will continue to live in in the foreseeable future. Cops are just doing their job like the rest of us, there's nothing inherently evil about them. That's not to say there aren't any cops that are really sadistic and enjoy slamming the bad guys against the hoods of their squad cars, but this is not always the case, and there is no need to label an entire profession as our enemies.

Yeah, that would make sense coming from a red neocon like you. You have never seen cops repeatedly slam your friends heads into the pavement for demonstrating against the war, because your too good to go to those 'pro-Islamist' demonstrations anyway, better to have theoretical debates in your lily-white college campus forums.

Sir Comradical
27th April 2010, 07:47
1. Enjoy the tension and play 'Fuck the Police' by NWA whenever you can.
2. Try and convert her to your ideology.

punisa
27th April 2010, 09:23
This is the worst idea yet. I really hope you aren't being serious.
I'm not being serious, pardon me.
But I am serious when saying that the guy should not worry too much about his friend's girlfriend.
By approaching the subject in that matter, seems like that other guy is pressured into "dumping her in a few weeks".
No matter what she is studying now it will not instantly mean she will become a ruthless *****.

The Douche
27th April 2010, 14:01
She wants to become a cop, cops investigate revolutionaries, I have allready been investigated before. How is there even discussion about this?

Chambered Word
27th April 2010, 17:12
1. Enjoy the tension and play 'Fuck the Police' by NWA whenever you can.


One cannot stress this enough.

Pirate Utopian
27th April 2010, 17:36
I would advice mixing it up with other anti-cop songs like Copkiller by Bodycount or Punk Police by Mac Dre.

Raúl Duke
27th April 2010, 17:55
So a good friend of mine as just gotten into a relationship with a girl who is going to school for law enforcement.

I was the only one to make a big deal about this, and our radical friends have told me to lay off, but other (non-radical) friends have backed me up. She told me she no longer wants to become a cop, but that shit is still her major in school. I have been investigated before, by federal and local authorities. So obviously I think its bad to have a cop or aspiring cop or cop sympathizer around.

Also this friend is very finicky about girls, and the defense that has been used, even by him, is that it "won't last long anyways" so I should just lighten up cause she'll "be gone in a month or two". But that is still enough time to do damage, and if he makes her mad, she has all kinds of dirt on him and his friends that she can hold over us if she feels he wronged her.



One issue why your radical friends may or may not be supporting you is that they don't want to seek conflict with your friend over this one cop aspirant (who may drop or choose not to be a cop, although I wonder what one can do besides law enforcement with a criminal justice major) when, in the grand scheme of things, there are actual certified cops around to be worried about.

BTW, the one dating this woman, is he a radical?


sounds like an easier leap to make to me lol


She wants to become a cop, cops investigate revolutionaries, I have allready been investigated before. How is there even discussion about this?

Well, its revleft...theres a discussion for everything.

What boggles my mind is the track/framework of this discussion and certain statements being made.

Robocommie
27th April 2010, 18:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L00lqcVcgUk

BeerShaman
27th April 2010, 18:15
Come and tell this here in Greece. Do you want to see numbers of innocent people killed by cops? Or aren't cops the ones that always come and tell you, don't do that, don't do this, hey! Aren't they the ones who hit people on every riot, the ones who block your way in protests? They are the pawns of the state, making reality the exploitation created by the capitalists and the statists, unleashed by themselves.

BeerShaman
27th April 2010, 18:18
You are f**king cynical... But that's good.

this is an invasion
27th April 2010, 20:04
There are always going to be assholes who want to fuck with things though. I'd be happy to see society with no cops, but we'd have to find another way to keep people from committing crimes against others, and a way to hold those who do accountable for their actions.
I always thought that a world without cops was called communism.

gorillafuck
27th April 2010, 20:24
I thought you meant a friend was dating a huge asshole.

An archist
27th April 2010, 20:26
She wants to become a cop, cops investigate revolutionaries, I have allready been investigated before. How is there even discussion about this?
There isn't. You don't casually hang out with cops if you're an anarchist.

S.Artesian
27th April 2010, 20:45
There isn't. You don't casually hang out with cops if you're an anarchist.

You don't hang out with cops if you're any sort of militant-- communist, socialist, anti-imperialist. You just don't.

And if your friend is hanging out with a cop, then you stop hanging with that friend.

It is just that simple, and just that essential... to your, and others', survival.

The Douche
27th April 2010, 20:54
You don't hang out with cops if you're any sort of militant-- communist, socialist, anti-imperialist. You just don't.

And if your friend is hanging out with a cop, then you stop hanging with that friend.

It is just that simple, and just that essential... to your, and others', survival.

Exactly, it is that clear cut in my mind.

Even if she drops out (she claims she doesn't want to be a cop anymore, which started once I made an issue out of it), she still is that kind of person, the person who wants to fill the social role of a police officer.

Jazzratt
28th April 2010, 00:21
I thought you meant a friend was dating a huge asshole.

There's a difference between coppers and huge assholes now? I thought they were mutually inclusive.

Scary Monster
28th April 2010, 01:06
I agree what most here say about cops. But you cant tell your friend who he can or cannot date. Maybe you should just not hang out with him when hes with her. If he does not break up with her like he said he might, and he turns out to like her, then you guys would have to find some way to get along. After all, she isnt the one that actually abused you and your friends. Its pretty infantile to put your friendship in jeopardy over someone your friend might like or to pressure them into breaking up with each other. And judging by how she says she didnt want to be a cop anymore after you expressed your discomfort about it, it seems like she just wants to be liked by you and to get along with you.

revolution inaction
28th April 2010, 22:25
There's a difference between coppers and huge assholes now? I thought they were mutually inclusive.

someone probebly need to be an asshole to be a cop but i don't think that assholes are required to be cops.

Il Medico
29th April 2010, 00:13
Jazzy, come on, don't insult assholes like that.

gorillafuck
29th April 2010, 02:12
There's a difference between coppers and huge assholes now? I thought they were mutually inclusive.
A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not necessarily a square, if you catch my drift.

Sir Comradical
30th April 2010, 06:47
One cannot stress this enough.


I know a cop who likes that song. lol.

ZeroNowhere
30th April 2010, 12:20
Yeah, that would make sense coming from a red neocon like you. You have never seen cops repeatedly slam your friends heads into the pavement for demonstrating against the war, because your too good to go to those 'pro-Islamist' demonstrations anyway, better to have theoretical debates in your lily-white college campus forums.Quiet yourself.