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Westward-Individualism
26th April 2010, 06:44
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=mWs6g3L3fkU

I'll let the man himself give his argument -- listen and comment.

RGacky3
26th April 2010, 12:28
Fairly accurate, however I don't think its fair of Chomsky to blame the left for not organizing them. Keep in mind what the left is up against, corporate sponsorship, corporate media, corporate state, and decades and decades of that, this is not the 1910s, the Capitalists of today or powerful in a way the Capitalists of Eugene Debs time would only dream of, and the media outlets they control are immense.

Its like blaming David for not managing to kill Goliath, its amazing if he does.

Other than that its accurate. However I think it IS a good tactic to ridicule the tea partiers, not personally, but their ideas and at every opportunity show them as suckers, why? So that the people on the edge, see the tea partiers for what they are, corporate suckers, if you start treating their talking points as legitimate your almost conceding to their lies, show how what they are supporting is really just supporting corporate America and actually show the real problem.

Westward-Individualism
27th April 2010, 10:10
I hear you.

I doubt however people who view themselves even partially as "individualists" will like the ridicule you advise -- even if it's not "personal"

I think a better approach is to focus what you agree on and try to make at least that one or two things happen.

Then we can step off and debate the solvency of propertarianism.

Capitalists are for "owner's-rights" -- Owners Rule
Communists are for "worker's-rights" -- Workers Rule
Anarchists are for "no-rights" -- No One Rules

Only when no one has rights will everyone be free -- as long as there is one group with "rights" (laws - guns - force-agency) then no group will be free.