Bizarre US Maoist group

[Lenina Rosenweg]

The Patriotic Workers Party.

http://maoist.wikia.com/wiki/Patriotic_Workers_Party

On a Maoism wiki. This appears to be a Dengist pro-PRC group which upholds Mao Zedong Thought, the Three Represents, the American militia movement, and Puritan Calvinism. They claim to be "nothing more than an egalitarian version of the Michigan Militia". That's reassuring....I think.Oh yeah, they're also against sin and vice.

I thought MIM and MSH were offbeat.

Is this a real organization, an attempt to form an organization, or just a spoof?

[Robocommie]

"China and Moscow does not control us, the common man in Hicksville, West Virginia does!"

I wonder what this common man's name is?

[Rusty Shackleford]

The Patriotic Workers Party.

http://maoist.wikia.com/wiki/Patriotic_Workers_Party

On a Maoism wiki. This appears to be a Dengist pro-PRC group which upholds Mao Zedong Thought, the Three Represents, the American militia movement, and Puritan Calvinism. They claim to be "nothing more than an egalitarian version of the Michigan Militia". That's reassuring....I think.Oh yeah, they're also against sin and vice.

I thought MIM and MSH were offbeat.

Is this a real organization, an attempt to form an organization, or just a spoof?

We are the ONLY red party outside of China that believes in the postMao economic theories that have made China a supepower and can make America even greater..... If you're a proud American who wants democracy in politics, economics, society, and religion, and thinks a militia where every family has an AK-47 in their home is the best military to WIN the war on terror, than stop on by!
reeks of nationalism therefore not Marxist Leninist. it seems like they have skewed the idea of patriotism set forth by mao and twisted it like the National Maoists did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QRPjBs-EA

Though most postwar Leftists don't view Mao Zedong as a Nationalist, his revolutionary socialist state was as national as Stalin's Soviet Union. The popular idea of adding nationalism to socialism was taken up by both, Stalin and Mao. Though they weren't nationalists from the start. The final product, however, is National Maoism or National Stalinism, depending on what leader you prefer. Another national-socialistic brother is North Korea's state ideology called Juche.its as hilarious as the National Bolsheviks, National Anarchists and then the 2 real obvious bad ones, National Syndicalism and National Socialism.

EDIT: it looks like a joke, really.

[Nolan]

Joke.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

"China and Moscow does not control us, the common man in Hicksville, West Virginia does!"

I wonder what this common man's name is?

Its probably a common name.

[freedon]

There should be a directory of right and left groups. T:rolleyes:he problem is that it would be full of spoofs, psychos and people best left ignored. However sometimes it is nice to go to the zoo.

[Nial Fossjet]

National Maoism?

Wake me up when there's National Nihilism.

[Revy]

Joke or not, I'm pretty sure the Rural People's Party are serious. (they are some neo-Maoist group that upholds the legacy of Kim Jong-il and Jim Jones).

[khad]

They are serious. Believe it or not, this is the personal wiki of that restricted user Jacobin1949, who is (big surprise) a fucking Dengist. In fact I remember clearly that this page (http://maoist.wikia.com/wiki/Soviet_Motherland_Front) used to have the NBP flag until I pointed it out to the fucker. They seem to be constructing paper organizations or possibly even front organizations in support of Dengism. I've driven him off at least one message board for claiming inane shit such as Vietnam being an imperialist power against China.

The guy is a pure fucking troll, bit I wouldn't be surprised if he has followers. There are at least a half dozen or so wiki contributors, from what I can tell.

Look what I found:

http://boards.askmen.com/showthread.php?86801-Only-China-can-save-Western-Civilization


Only China can save Western Civilization

What the Spirit of Hegel has shown me

I was once a misguided youth. I was a military officer in America's
imperialist wars and I committed unspeakable crimes. But then in my
hour of need I was sitting in a train station, and a stranger handed
me Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit. this books is a guide to
discovering the true Absolute Idea that has guided the world. The
Spirit showed me the doom that would befall America, Japan and Israel.
that the nations of Sodom and Gomorrah would feel the wrath of the
spirit. that the sky over the lands that had wage war against the
spirit would turn blood red, and it would rain fire. And that with he
distraction of the enemies of humanity, man would at last be
reconciled with spirit.

The American Empire represents the material conclusion of western
history. All western history leads to the American Empire. However the
spirit of America is the opposite of the Spirit of the western
civilization. China however embodies the spirit of the west. For the
western system is encapsulated within Hegel's system which is carried
forward by Marx, Lenin and Mao. Through Mao the Hegelian system and
thus the spirit of the west is brought to China.

America's wickedness and power shall prove it's own downfall. America
is a whore of Babylon celebrating, lust, desire, and cruelty.
America's freedom is slavery to desire. America's individuality is the
enemy of any sane individual. This proud empire shall be made humble
by the Spirit. In the Chinese Communist Party, we see man and flesh
reconciled and made one. The American Empire alienates the spirit from
man. China shall be the reconciliation. Man shall find God, and God
shall find himself. Call it Mao or call it God, but the spirit lives.
The fall of America is inevitable, the spirit has made it clear. In
order for the spirit to express itself, America must be shattered, its
wickedness expunged. The Montana plan is an important part of this
process. The Spirit has expressed the need for the Montana plan.
Through the Montana plan, the cruelty of the American shall be
smashed, and a new world shall be built on the ashes of the old. The
Montana plan shall storm the heavens themselves. The impossible with
the help of the Spirit shall be done. The Montana plan will be the New
America.

Hegel explains that Oriental man is civilization in its child sate,
while Germanic man is civilization as an adult. How fitting that the
innocence of the child-man well ultimately overthrow American man
which embodies civilization as an elderly man.

The only hope of western civilization lies in China.

[Revy]

Maybe these Christian Capitalist Militia Maoists....are part of the same troll group as the atheist-hating Nostradamists? :lol:

[Dimentio]

National Maoism?

Wake me up when there's National Nihilism.

There is.

http://www.anus.com/ (http://www.anus.org) XD XD XD

As for the maoist wiki, the articles there which I have seen are obviously a product of the same individual. Needless to say, he seems to have a fetish for the PRC.

[Palingenisis]

http://www.freewebs.com/ruralmaoism/

These guys are also very weird....They uphold Jim Jones and Jurche!

[Ravachol]

There is.

www.anus.org (http://www.anus.org) XD XD XD

As for the maoist wiki, the articles there which I have seen are obviously a product of the same individual. Needless to say, he seems to have a fetish for the PRC.

They seem to be closer to the Nouvelle Droite, Integralism and Evola than actual 'Nihilism' which isn't so much as a weltanschaung (to use a 'wrong' word :p) as it is a state of being.

[Palingenisis]

They seem to be closer to the Nouvelle Droite, Integralism and Evola than actual 'Nihilism' which isn't so much as a weltanschaung (to use a 'wrong' word :p) as it is a state of being.

All the fans of Evola I have come across would count as nihilists.

[Ravachol]

All the fans of Evola I have come across would count as nihilists.

I highly doubt they would be genuine Evolists then. Evola valued tradition, mysticism and the 'religious order' all very highly and saw myth as a main driving force of human action. This is all very unlikely to appeal to nihilists who seek to actively deconstruct existing moral bases, structures and, above all if anything, tradition.

[Palingenisis]

I highly doubt they would be genuine Evolists then. Evola valued tradition, mysticism and the 'religious order' all very highly and saw myth as a main driving force of human action. This is all very unlikely to appeal to nihilists who seek to actively deconstruct existing moral bases, structures and, above all if anything, tradition.

Riding the Tiger is pretty nihilistic in what it advocates...Gottfried Benn was a big fan of "Revolt Against the Modern World"...Evola is "order, tradition, blah, blah,blah" in the service of nihilism...Weird but true.

[x371322]

I stumbled upon that page a while back. I laughed a little and moved on. Gotta be a joke.

[Nial Fossjet]

Riding the Tiger is pretty nihilistic in what it advocates...Gottfried Benn was a big fan of "Revolt Against the Modern World"...Evola is "order, tradition, blah, blah,blah" in the service of nihilism...Weird but true.

What's the Marxist perspective on right-wing mysticism embodied by weirdos like Evola or Francis Parker Yockey?

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Loren Goldner has an interesting Marxist perspective on Yockey and his ilk.

http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner/yockey.html

[Chimurenga.]

http://www.freewebs.com/ruralmaoism/

These guys are also very weird....They uphold Jim Jones and Jurche!

Living in South Carolina, I had never heard of this before I joined RevLeft. I'm pretty sure that "party" is only one person.

[Palingenisis]

What's the Marxist perspective on right-wing mysticism embodied by weirdos like Evola or Francis Parker Yockey?

I dont know....Personally my view is that its a degenerated aesthicism..Look at the way they mix things like the Strasser brothers and Proudon with Juilus Evola (who was actully pretty anti-nationalist) and Rene Guenon...Thats their modern "followers" at least.

[Dimentio]

I dont know....Personally my view is that its a degenerated aesthicism..Look at the way they mix things like the Strasser brothers and Proudon with Juilus Evola (who was actully pretty anti-nationalist) and Rene Guenon...Thats their modern "followers" at least.

I see them more as a subculture. People who listen to Von Thronstahl or Ostara, read Evola or at least possess books by Evola, prefer the Strassers before Hitler and discuss all pop-cultural phenomenons from a reactionary perspective are just the nazi equivalent to goths and emos. Generally speaking, they are not so much of a threat since they narrow themselves down to the most narrow and obscure subcultures, which could never win mass appeal since 99,9% of people have never heard about Evola, neither would they appreciate his aristocratic philosophy and "deep" semi-occult works.

[Nial Fossjet]

That makes sense to me. I've been reading John Reilly's coverage of "esoteric fascism" and I still don't understand what Tradition is or where the concept came from.

[Crunkenstein]

For some reason I'm reminded of Leo Strauss?

[Crux]

I see them more as a subculture. People who listen to Von Thronstahl or Ostara, read Evola or at least possess books by Evola, prefer the Strassers before Hitler and discuss all pop-cultural phenomenons from a reactionary perspective are just the nazi equivalent to goths and emos. Generally speaking, they are not so much of a threat since they narrow themselves down to the most narrow and obscure subcultures, which could never win mass appeal since 99,9% of people have never heard about Evola, neither would they appreciate his aristocratic philosophy and "deep" semi-occult works.
I think there was an article about Dugin, one of the original founder of the NationalBolshevik Party enjoys support from the Kremlin. Eduard Limonov also seems pretty influential for such a madman.

[Elfcat]

Uhhhhh, dude, my wife is a Jesus-believer, and even she doesn't uphold Puritan Calvinism!!! :laugh: Nor I think do a whole lot of Christians it seems.

[comradesvs]

Sounds like another scary case of right wing loonies trying to use left rhetoric and imagery to attract radical youth. National Bolshevik Party for example. The nazi's used the same tactic and of course today the right tries to use that to claim that fascism and communism are similar.

[Marxist]

I never had an idead that groups like this exist , i thought that "Race Bolsheviks" in Moscow are the top notch of weird people :D

[thomasludd]

can we make a directory/list for weird groups that appropriate leftist-revolutionary imagery/ideas? it would be a useful list of people/groups to avoid (and laugh about sometimes).

[Dimentio]

I think there was an article about Dugin, one of the original founder of the NationalBolshevik Party enjoys support from the Kremlin. Eduard Limonov also seems pretty influential for such a madman.

Dugin only has influence because the Kremlin wants him too. Russia is a bit of a special case and its political landscape is not possible to translate to western Europe or America.

[Dimentio]

That makes sense to me. I've been reading John Reilly's coverage of "esoteric fascism" and I still don't understand what Tradition is or where the concept came from.

I think I've got an itch from where it came from. Degenerated aristocrats wanting to go emo all over the place and play elitist revolutionaries.

[Jazzhands]

Dugin only has influence because the Kremlin wants him too. Russia is a bit of a special case and its political landscape is not possible to translate to western Europe or America.

Your analysis seems correct for the most part. Dugin is just crazy but it doesn't seem like that covers where the Nazbols even came from. Here's my analysis. Dugin wanted an ultra-conservative party. Conservative, in the original sense of the word, means resistant to change, and the more right you get, the more you want to return to the "good old days" of the past. Hence, Dugin wants to bring back what he sees as the best parts of Russian history, the USSR (that explains the hammer-and-sickle) and the Russian Empire (the stated goal of the Nazbols is to create a Eurasian empire ruled by Russia like the Russian Empire was).


EDIT: I agree with thomasludd about the list of crazy groups that use left symbolism. We need to get on this right away and sticky it with great vengeance.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

It's just taking to the next level what power is all about, to the extent where they are ridiculous. Just a bunch of straight, white, cis-men with a fetish for nationalism (and most likely, ultimately racism), sexism, domination and masturbating to images of hate violence.

But it's soooo extreme that it looks silly and ironic.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Living in South Carolina, I had never heard of this before I joined RevLeft. I'm pretty sure that "party" is only one person.

I'd be willing to bet the "Party" as on their site they promote nuking the US and US allies is actually from one of the countries that'd be targeted by North Korea. Probably a "party" of 1-5 self hating American(s).

[tbasherizer]

I think these batshit insane parties are a benefit to the mainstream revolutionary left. They attract the people who have no idea what they're thinking about and who would end up embarrassing us as a whole with all matter of gaffes. It's a good thing they're so small, as well, or else that would mean that a significant portion of the population was batshit insane.

[People's War]

The Patriotic Workers Party.

[ link rule >:( ]

On a Maoism wiki. This appears to be a Dengist pro-PRC group which upholds Mao Zedong Thought, the Three Represents, the American militia movement, and Puritan Calvinism. They claim to be "nothing more than an egalitarian version of the Michigan Militia". That's reassuring....I think.Oh yeah, they're also against sin and vice.

I thought MIM and MSH were offbeat.

Is this a real organization, an attempt to form an organization, or just a spoof?

This is almost as bizarre as the National Socialist Green Libertarian Party.

[Chimurenga.]

I'd be willing to bet the "Party" as on their site they promote nuking the US and US allies is actually from one of the countries that'd be targeted by North Korea. Probably a "party" of 1-5 self hating American(s).

I've read a little bit of "their" content and nothing gave off that they were THAT extreme but who knows? There is, however, a very cultish vibe and no real ambition to create a mass movement. Therefore, I'm not interested.

[Crux]

I've read a little bit of "their" content and nothing gave off that they were THAT extreme but who knows? There is, however, a very cultish vibe and no real ambition to create a mass movement. Therefore, I'm not interested.
Tempted to put this as my sig.

[t.shonku]

I am a pro-Maoist myself but from a different country and I am interested to know about this party and its objectives.

Why are you guys calling this group bizzare?Please tell me?

Are there any members of this party here who could explain to us.......?

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I am a pro-Maoist myself but from a different country and I am interested to know about this party and its objectives.
I'm sorry to hear that... :rolleyes:


Why are you guys calling this group bizzare?Please tell me?

Have you looked at their site? It's like picking from the selection of the worst things to pick from maoism, and then adding stuff from Michigan's ultra-rightwing militias with more racist bullshit.


Are there any members of this party here who could explain to us.......?

If there are they should be banned as fascists aren't supposed to be allowed on revleft.


This is a political party made for American patriots who distrust the government. This is a party in the tradition of Oliver Cromwell, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, John Brown, Abraham Lincoln and William Jennings Bryan. We take pride in America's puritan tradition and proud of our morality and our values. We oppose vice and sin. We are not ashamed of America! The Patriotic Workers Party seeks to make America a more powerful and a more secure nation. We welcome and support the American militia movement. We believe in the government of Ancient Athens, the religion of Puritan Calvinism, the military of the Swiss Militia, the society of Robespierre and Mao and a nation of Americans. This party believes in Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaopeng Theory, and the Three Represents. We are the ONLY red party outside of China that believes in the postMao economic theories that have made China a supepower and can make America even greater. ALL other Red parties denounce the reforms that have made China's GDP the fastest growing in history. NOT US! We are not a foreign party. Peking and Moscow do not control us, the common man in Hicksville, West Virginia does! We're nothing more than a egalitatarian version of the Michigan Militia. If you're a proud American who wants democracy in politics, economics, society, and religion, and thinks a militia where every family has an AK-47 in their home is the best military to WIN the war on terror, than stop on by!

Proclaiming "pride in America's puritan tradition" and in morals and values and opposing "sin" makes them revolutionary how?